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Message: [QUOTE="7774, post: 3499251, member: 2419"] Well the on court results the last couple years of the KO era looked exactly like players were told "get in the gym" and not much else. I guess you think it's more likely we had an entire team full of guys not willing to work hard than it is we had a coach without a real plan? Even with some of the other stuff that went on under KO at the end? That seems unlikely, just based upon, you know, math. But I guess the Jackson family could have been lying. They really get no big benefit out of lying in that situation, it's not like the Dukes of the world were going to be asking him to transfer there either way. But it's possible they are lying about it. [/QUOTE]