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If the B1G wants to "extend its academic/research reach into New England" they could just cut MIT a deal for one sport like they did with Johns Hopkins.
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As someone else said, the AAU is a good ol' boys club. The same people that we are begging to invite us into one of their P5 athletic conferences are basically the same people that we have to beg to invite us into their AAU research club. Clearly they have spoken and do not want us in any shape or form. Time to move on and stop acting like the boy that keeps getting turned down by the pretty girl.
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Is this Nelson incognito?
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Not really necessary IMO. If B1G Schools want to collaborate with MIT they don't need the approval of an athletic conference. Johns Hopkins was unique in that they were an available blue blood lacrosse program looking for a home at nearly the exact moment The B1G was trying to establish the sport within the conference. The fact that they are an academic super power simply made the decision an easier one. Athletically MIT brings nothing to the table.
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That's why there was "talk" of trying to bring in Cornell into the Big10 for hockey. Cornell was/is a big time program and would be a link into The Ivy League for The CiC. They play in Hockey East and wouldn't have to leave The Ivy League for any of their other sports. Same for Boston U and their hockey program.
When I say talk, I mean the talking heads, of course.
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Wait till the B1G/BTN adds chess.
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It is nowhere near as simple as you make it out to be here. Athletic conferences and The AAU have different motivations for who and when someone is invited to join. When talking about The B1G these things sometimes become intertwined, but they are not one and the same.
The AAU has certain metrics that need to be met in order to be considered for or to retain membership. Schools are not arbitrarily selected regardless of these numbers, and schools do not conspire with each other to keep out others that meet or exceed membership criteria.
As for The B1G it is often stated that AAU Membership and geographic contiguity are necessary for inclusion. Once again this is simply not true. They are subjective criteria used by Delany when rumors of conference realignment emerge that run contrary to his vision.
At the end of the day conference realignment is about one thing and one thing only. Money. Academic profile, geographic contiguity, and like mindedness in university mission are all important, but if you stand to make the conference significantly more money the odds are you have a good shot to join. Lets face it ND is an a**h*** of an athletic partner and a non AAU private, but if they came to Delany hat in hand today there would be a press conference in South Bend tomorrow announcing their membership. UT is the same animal. The idea of geography would go out the window in order to leverage those Texas Cable boxes.
UCONN is doing a great job of building up both its academic and athletic profile. These big investments in facilities and personnel will be rewarded in the long run. Those that criticize the current state of your football program and even desire to downsize to a lesser position athletically are clearly small minded people making 10 year decisions as opposed to 50 year ones. The ACC and Big 12 are full of these kind of thinkers. Protect the little I have in the short term and hope the long term will take care of itself. The B1G, Pac, and SEC on the other hand understand that you must sacrifice short term gains for long term goals. Which of the P5 leagues do you think will be around 20 years from now?
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Michigan 14 21
Northwestern 25 23
Wisconsin 27 25
Minnesota 29 49
Ohio State 34 47
Illionis 35 28
Maryland 51 76
Penn State 52 46
Rutgers 55 33
Purdue 69 52
Michigan State 75 112
Indiana 114 113
Iowa 121 125
Nebraska 253 335
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Duke 20 26
North Carolina 32 45
Pittsburgh 42 53
Georgia Tech 61 83 AAU 2010
Virginia 102 41
Miami 169 138
FSU 172 225
NC State 213 228
Virginia Tech 248 271
Wake 300 145
Syracuse 377 448
BC 390 332
Louisville 481 322
Clemson nr 510
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Stony Brook 131 126 AAU 2001
Boston U 37 67 AAU 2012
TAMU 86 105 AAU 2001
Connecticut 272 233
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Michigan 14 21
Northwestern 25 23
Wisconsin 27 25
Minnesota 29 49
Ohio State 34 47
Illionis 35 28
Maryland 51 76
Penn State 52 46
Rutgers 55 33
Purdue 69 52
Michigan State 75 112
Indiana 114 113
Iowa 121 125
Nebraska 253 335
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Duke 20 26
North Carolina 32 45
Pittsburgh 42 53
Georgia Tech 61 83 AAU 2010
Virginia 102 41
Miami 169 138
FSU 172 225
NC State 213 228
Virginia Tech 248 271
Wake 300 145
Syracuse 377 448
BC 390 332
Louisville 481 322
Clemson nr 510
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Stony Brook 131 126 AAU 2001
Boston U 37 67 AAU 2012
TAMU 86 105 AAU 2001
Connecticut 272 233
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UConn and MIT to the B1G!
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