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The Sales gesture affected no player or program outside of UConn. The Sales gesture affected none of the UConn players who finished their careers with lower point totals. The Sales gesture affected none of the players who would go on to surpass the point totals of Sales and Bascomb. I doubt it mattered much to Moore, et al, which one had the higher point total when she passed them, nor will it matter to the future players that pass them. It affected Bascomb, of course, but not in depriving her of a permanent record, but rather to hold onto that record for a little shorter time. Knowing it was bound to be broken anyways, she gave it her full, enthusiastic approval.

It affected Sales as well. It was supposed to affect her in a good way, in appreciation of what she had done. That was the ticket, the appreciation, not the record, as Sales likely knew as well as Bascomb that the record would not be permanent for a program starting to attract the best players. Alas, reports later revealed that it did not affect Sales in as good a way as intended, because of all the flack involved. The purity of the game was the alleged concern, as if a high profile sport would be pure otherwise if not for such an incident, but I find that to be a smokescreen for whatever else makes people so concerned over such a trivial matter.

And, yes, Jeff Jacobs, me being one of the BY guys you interviewed and who happens to appreciate most of your columns, I am thinking about you.

100 likes to you sir. An excellent explanation of what Geno did with Sales. Some Boneyarders may not have been fans back then, and been aware that Geno did this decades ago (1998) himself. To agree that USF in fact ruined the integrity of of basketball by that act, you had better add UConn to that list also. :)
 
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Back a few years, Geno made a pact with his friend and fellow Big East coach Harry Perretta. Nykesha Sales sustained a season ending injury, her senior year and was just a point away from breaking Bascom's scoring record. She was allowed to start and score just we saw last night, with Villanova getting a return score. Keesha went to the bench and therefore broke the scoring record.

Wow, was there a lot of "heartburn" from a lot of people, across the WBB community. Geno had cleared it with Kerry prior to making it happen.

There was a lot of "that would be unthinkable in the man's game - the real basketball" too. And lots of women were on the attack about "how can we be taken seriously when you do something like that!"
 

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It was just as you say. And everyone must learn to read the entire original post wherein the poster ended with an emoji. ;) By virtue of that winking , he is telling us that he is being sarcastic. This subtlety is just way to easy to see. Just look. Everyone here agrees it was a lovely gesture to a respected opponent, even if they do not know that they agree! :confused:

I thought that ;) meant "just kidding" all these years!
 
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There was a lot of "that would be unthinkable in the man's game - the real basketball" too. And lots of women were on the attack about "how can we be taken seriously when you do something like that!"

There you go again using too many words where none would do.

This is College sports. Long before big money got involved it was kids against kids. Honorable was the word most used, and the second was compassion. In my less than humble opinion: This act and that towards Sales spoke those two words loudly.
 

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There was a lot of "that would be unthinkable in the man's game - the real basketball" too. And lots of women were on the attack about "how can we be taken seriously when you do something like that!"
Actually Shark "The Tark" did the same thing at an opposing team's senior night in the 70's. If I remember correctly the player had broken his wrist the game before. There was a jump ball, UNLV's center didn't jump just like Pheesa didn't, the player was under his teams basket got the ball and laid it in. Timeout was called and he left the floor to a standing O to include the UNLV players. UNLV went on to win in a route, I think it was against UCSB.
 

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It affected Bascomb, of course, but not in depriving her of a permanent record, but rather to hold onto that record for a little shorter time. Knowing it was bound to be broken anyways, she gave it her full, enthusiastic approval.
Always thought this was pretty cool by Bascomb. She missed games to injury and would have been within her rights to point that out. Geno let her know it was her call and like you say, Kerry was fine with it. That is a lady who's pretty comfortable in own skin.
 

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There you go again using too many words where none would do.

This is College sports. Long before big money got involved it was kids against kids. Honorable was the word most used, and the second was compassion. In my less than humble opinion: This act and that towards Sales spoke those two words loudly.

I guess I confused you. I was providing examples of the noise made by jerks when Precious got to break the record. If I didn't confuse you I guess I have used to many words to say your rudeness both surprises and offends me, but that is what a short attention span and the internet bring out. You now join a privileged list.
 

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There you go again using too many words where none would do.

This is College sports. Long before big money got involved it was kids against kids. Honorable was the word most used, and the second was compassion. In my less than humble opinion: This act and that towards Sales spoke those two words loudly.

 

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I guess I confused you. I was providing examples of the noise made by jerks when Precious got to break the record. If I didn't confuse you I guess I have used to many words to say your rudeness both surprises and offends me, but that is what a short attention span and the internet bring out. You now join a privileged list.
You guys need to kiss and make up! This is just a tiff. A huge misunderstanding. Why do so many people fail to see humor nowadays? :eek:
 

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If that was humor he sucks at it. I think I'll go on a walk about.
 

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I was speaking to my sister about the horrible prices for the USF/UCONN game seats and a woman sitting next to me said it was because they needed to get money for all those million dollar players. She was shocked when I explained it was a Women's college basketball game. That is what I thought this thread was about so I was ready to throw in my two cents about charging $50 for seats. I found cheaper seats for the Final Four. It gets worse every year therefore I will not support USF anymore. I gave away my hat and as soon as I find my shirt, it will be donated to Goodwill. I'm done..... thanks for listening.

They need the bucks because they're thinking of building a football stadium on their campus.
 

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It was the right thing to do. Geno and Jose understand more than some that basketball is a means to and end. No one at the game was complaining. Ferreira is a fan favorite and rightly so.
 
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Sounds like Geno liked the way she played... and there is no record involved, so no one needed to be consulted. Just a nice gesture for someone that may never play again.

I doubt if it had anything to do with Geno's feelings toward the player. It probably had something to do with Geno's feelings toward the USF coach, fans and program.
 

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If that was humor he sucks at it. I think I'll go on a walk about.
I meant your humor. And he/she did not get it. So when I take a stab at something in a manner that I think is humorous, sometimes it falls on deaf ears. So it might be that no one understands my brilliant wit, or maybe I just did not do a great job at it. I was hoping you could understand that he/she just did not "see" the humor. Maybe not perceptive, or maybe a less than clear message? You are too prolific a poster to never hit a speed bump. Hate to see you walking out in the deep snow, Rocky Boy! :)
 
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I'm pretty sure y'all are saying the same thing(s), with varying degrees of historical knowledge.

1. The Laura Feirrera basket was agreed-upon by both coaches and was a class act, because there are things more important than basketball.

2. Geno got hit pretty hard by the press, notably Jeff Jacobs, during the whole Nykesha Sales aftermath. For those who never saw it, here's the original Jacobs column (note: it still infuriates me today): LINK HERE

3. Geno referenced that in his comment about the Feirrera situation when he was asked afterwards: ". . .I have some experience in these issues, so we thought we’d put something together.”

4. Geno also likes Feirrera: “I’ve always liked the kid. I like the way she plays and her demeanor on the floor."

5. Some people here were not around for the Nykesha Sales event, so it appears as if they missed the obvious, initial sarcasm of the OP.
 
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They need the bucks because they're thinking of building a football stadium on their campus.
I love sarcasm... thanks. I saw they want to spend $200 million on a new stadium when Raymond James Stadium is just fine. Sometimes I'm not sure what they mean by higher education.
 
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Laura always played with great gusto and I enjoyed / dreaded watching her compete with us - she kind of reminded me of Carla Berube...

At her age, my son had to get a defibrillator (pacemaker), because of other more complicated heart problems. I am very happy to report that 14 years later, he is doing wonderfully and I pray for equal results for her.
 
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The Sales gesture affected no player or program outside of UConn. The Sales gesture affected none of the UConn players who finished their careers with lower point totals. The Sales gesture affected none of the players who would go on to surpass the point totals of Sales and Bascomb. I doubt it mattered much to Moore, et al, which one had the higher point total when she passed them, nor will it matter to the future players that pass them. It affected Bascomb, of course, but not in depriving her of a permanent record, but rather to hold onto that record for a little shorter time. Knowing it was bound to be broken anyways, she gave it her full, enthusiastic approval.

It affected Sales as well. It was supposed to affect her in a good way, in appreciation of what she had done. That was the ticket, the appreciation, not the record, as Sales likely knew as well as Bascomb that the record would not be permanent for a program starting to attract the best players. Alas, reports later revealed that it did not affect Sales in as good a way as intended, because of all the flack involved. The purity of the game was the alleged concern, as if a high profile sport would be pure otherwise if not for such an incident, but I find that to be a smokescreen for whatever else makes people so concerned over such a trivial matter.

And, yes, Jeff Jacobs, me being one of the BY guys you interviewed and who happens to appreciate most of your columns, I am thinking about you.
Yeah, Jacobs as I recall, didn’t think much of the Boneyard or Courant readers who cancelled their subscriptions after his column condemning the Sales, Geno and Harry intervention!
 
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Anyone who doesn't think this game is more than just basketball should watch the following video:

Then respond how this is bad for the game.
p.s. She was given the inaugural Pat Summit Award for Courage and raised over $2 million for cancer research.
 
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