USF Postgame Thread

[hoophuskee]

For those who would like Ice to grab more rebounds - rewatch the game. She had her hands on several balls but at the same time as a teammate so she gave up the possession. I thought Ice looked really good yesterday. I loved her offensive aggressiveness.

I rewatched the 1st half to look more closely at this. Your points are spot on. There were two additional rebounds that were "hers" as you state in which Sarah and Paige also had the ball or was a bit better positiioned to get the ball. There were I believe two other rebounds that on one side ice had boxed out her player and Sarah had the other side. The ball went to Sarah's side.

At the end of the half there was a play she blocked her player near 5-10 feet from the basket. Sarah's momentum was going the way of the ball with no one around her while Ice was boxing out her player that was the closest USF player to the ball. Sarah ended up getting the rebound after it hit the floor a few tmes beucase Ice kept the other player away from the ball.

I question whether we are going to see many rebounds from Ice this year not because she can't but becuase Sarah is so gifted and Jana is so tall and big and Paige is so active. Thus it wouldn't be a knock on her. She's not going to get 30 minutes unless in rare circumstances.

 

[Bills Fan]

I do plan to re-watch the game, but watching it live, it seemed to me that Ice had her hands on several balls (not just rebounds but passes from teammates) that slipped away or were slapped away by defenders -- a classic case of butter fingers, and not just in this last game. By contrast, when Sarah or Jana gets two hands on a ball, it's not going anywhere until she wants to let go of it.

Paige is also in the Sarah/Jana category in that respect. There was one play against USF where two defenders trapped Paige near mid-court and I thought they were going to get a steal (and I think Jose also thought that). But Paige wouldn't let go, and kept possession of the ball and got it to a teammate, eventually (as I recall) resulting in a score. Olyve Oyl no more!

Joe, you are so right regarding ICE's hands. It was a problem last year and so far has continued this year. It's a big problem for a big who is in the paint with a crowd around her most of the time . A good example of this and her lack of intensity is a USF FT, I think early in the 3rd Qtr, when ICE had the first lane and weakly boxed out as a missed FT bounced off her hands.

She has some real skills, shooting and passing, but bad hands are tough to cure.

 

[Geew1992]

USF tried to beat up the Huskies. Nothing new there, but this team has the size and strength to discourage that approach. You’re going to have to ball to beat UConn.

Uconn gives as good as they take. The "beat up" "too physical"... That's part of the game

 

[Geew1992]

He knows Q isn't ready defensively, and needs to find out about the others.

This... If you aren't playing defense, you won't see the floor

 

[DEpup]

Your point reminds me of Tuck a bit. Her stats were rarely gaudy but she did the box out dirty work using her frame and Stewie probably benefited from it.

 

[Zonepress]

I rewatched the 1st half to look more closely at this. Your points are spot on. There were two additional rebounds that were "hers" as you state in which Sarah and Paige also had the ball or was a bit better positiioned to get the ball. There were I believe two other rebounds that on one side ice had boxed out her player and Sarah had the other side. The ball went to Sarah's side.

At the end of the half there was a play she blocked her player near 5-10 feet from the basket. Sarah's momentum was going the way of the ball with no one around her while Ice was boxing out her player that was the closest USF player to the ball. Sarah ended up getting the rebound after it hit the floor a few tmes beucase Ice kept the other player away from the ball.

I question whether we are going to see many rebounds from Ice this year not because she can't but becuase Sarah is so gifted and Jana is so tall and big and Paige is so active. Thus it wouldn't be a knock on her. She's not going to get 30 minutes unless in rare circumstances.

I would add that in the first half the petimeter players from UConn we’re getting beat off the dribble very consistently, forcing the Biggs to help out
USF had a number of offensive rebounds, which, in my humble opinion were the results of the off
Side perimeter players, not filling the lane i
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When you shoot close to 70% for the first 3/4 there’s not a lot of offensive rebounds

 

[RoadMaster]

 

[MSGRET]

This game should have been at least a 45 point win, the only thing that kept USF in the game was the refs swallowing their whistles when it came to calling fouls on the Bulls.

 

[Zinethar]

When I re-watched the game I thought Ice played very well but has a bit of trouble catching the ball - much like defensive backs in football (if they could catch they would be receivers). Her footwork has become very good, good at boxing out, shooting, and filling lanes. Sarah and Jana both have great hands and catch the ball securely. Not everyone has great hand-eye coordination. Talk to Mora and have her do some of the defensive back catch drills . This team is SO much fun to watch!

 

[Bone Dog]

Another classic moment I noticed on a re-watch of the game (thank you, @MJL243):

In the last 2:00 minutes of the 3rd quarter, Jana scores on a driving layup and gets fouled. The team celebrates with Jana and she has her ‘scary’ game face on… until Paige approaches, and then Jana has a big grin.

 

[UCONNRPh]

NC environment won’t be totally hostile… me and the wife will be there

I'll be there with wife and son.

 

[RoadMaster]

Swipe..

 

[Bigboote]

At the end of the half there was a play she blocked her player near 5-10 feet from the basket. Sarah's momentum was going the way of the ball with no one around her while Ice was boxing out her player that was the closest USF player to the ball. Sarah ended up getting the rebound after it hit the floor a few tmes beucase Ice kept the other player away from the ball.

I said the same thing about Shade almost exactly a year ago. I noticed that every time a shot went up, she found someone to box out. It doesn’t necessarily get her a lot of rebounds, but it gets her team lots of rebounds.

The little things can be really important, and Ice does a lot of the little things.

 

[Bigboote]

Swipe..

I love the number of pics of players using their off hands.

 

[donalddoowop]

I said the same thing about Shade almost exactly a year ago. I noticed that every time a shot went up, she found someone to box out. It doesn’t necessarily get her a lot of rebounds, but it gets her team lots of rebounds.

The little things can be really important, and Ice does a lot of the little things.

Believe me, Ice will be doing a lot of big things throughout her career. There is something about her that is waiting to break out.

 

[mainerhuski]

Does anyone else think Kara Wolters circa 1995 when watching Jana? Her footwork is fantastic, and pretty soon I feel she’ll be unstoppable

When she made that baby hook shot I thought of Dolson.

 

[Alydar]

When she made that baby hook shot I thought of Dolson.

When a mass of players are fighting for a board and El Alfy emerges with the ball it's like a deja vu of Stokes, who always won those battles.

 

[Dugway]

Believe me, Ice will be doing a lot of big things throughout her career. There is something about her that is waiting to break out.

Be wonderful if she turns into an Aalyia 2.0!

 

[Bone Dog]

When a mass of players are fighting for a board and El Alfy emerges with the ball it's like a deja vu of Stokes, who always won those battles.

I love that about Jana — the “Mine” rebounds. You know who else comes out of those scrums with the ball surprisingly often? KK. I think she learned that from Nika last season: quick hands can often muscle a loose ball away from big hands.