USC #1 & #2

[asuwish]

As of now I think USC west (The women of Troy) will be the preseason #1 ranked team. USC east (the Gamecocks) will be #2. UConn, and Texas will be debated at #3 & #4. USC west now has two of the top ten players in the country, a great freshman class, and lots of depth. Adding two experienced transfers is a BIG deal. USC east has almost everyone back (YES, the one player they lost was a big loss, emphasis "BIG" but they have great depth, size, and with only 1 loss in 2 years (I know everyone did not play both years), they know how to win. I see about 3 or 4 other teams that could also win it.

 

[Maleficent9]

even though USC west has seemingly the whole package (juju, insane recruiting class, insane transfers) i feel like they should still give preseason #1 to USC east, to reward the natty winners and bc they still got a good recruiting class despite losing cardoso. also last season lsu was in a similar situation to USC west, with a lot of offseason moves and hype, but it didn't necessarily translate

 

[Kaizen]

The landscape of women's college basketball is going to look very different when November arrives and the 2024-25 season begins. USC west has not been seeing as a #1 team by ESPN experts yet.

And with transfers still making decisions and so many players eligible to use a fifth year per the COVID-19 waiver, this top 25 will likely change too. Plenty. But the offseason starts now. Here's our Way-Too-Early Top 25.

1. South Carolina Gamecocks
2. Texas Longhorns
3. Notre Dame Fighting Irish
4. UConn Huskies
5. USC Trojans

Women's Way-Too-Early Top 25: Transfers, coaching changes shake up rankings

South Carolina remains No. 1, but USC and UCLA are climbing and Stanford and Oregon State fell out of the rankings.

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[Barkin Out]

I agree that it’s a stretch to place USCw as a 2 based on a projected integration of a bunch of new players. It’s not easy to bring a team together, and it’s harder still without a lot of experience. Gotleib did make it to a FF in her 2nd year at Cal by beating a 4 seed in OT in the elite8. They lost in the semis- I think that was 2013. It took until last year for her teams to break out of the 2nd round. She has got the talent to make run next year- but putting them in front of a team they lost to- who has a better recruiting class coming….

 

[ochoopsfan]

We're #1

 

[Kaizen]

Base on the 2024 HoopGurlz Recruiting Rankings, UConn should be #1 in recruiting rankings. With #1 Sarah Strong, #7 Allie Ziebell and #11 Morgan Cheli.

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[MSGRET]

Base on the 2024 HoopGurlz Recruiting Rankings, UConn should be #1 in recruiting rankings. With #1 Sarah Strong, #7 Allie Ziebell and #11 Morgan Cheli.

2024 HoopGurlz Recruiting Rankings - espnW 100 - ESPN

Get the inside scoop on the top ranked high school girls' basketball players. In-depth player briefings, film and more on ESPNHS.com.

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I believe that the reason why some are giving it to USC (West) is because they have 6 of the Top 100 Freshman going to USC. Not that I agree with it, but some believe it.

 

[Rb335]

For Southern Cal, a lot of it depends on their freshman. Juju and Iriafen can lay claim to being the best duo in the country, but basketball is a 5x5 game. TVO and Marshall should be able to be solid role players, but they still need young players to step up. Can totally happen but I am not awarding them the NC just yet.

South Carolina takes a big hit with Cardoso gone. She had a Griner like effect sometimes, altering opponents inside game defensively. Plus she dominated the boards. That skill at that size was a huge advantage. However, they return pretty much everything else, add good recruits, will see young players get better, and have the chemistry. They are my #1 for now.

Since it’s a uconn board, I’ll just say that the huskies are a giant question mark to me. On paper we have so many options, so many highly regarded youngsters. But the true key will be how do players look post injury, and can they stay healthy. One advantage seems like we have the potential to shoot lights out. Lots of intrigue.

I’m also not sleeping on ND. Miles, Hidalgo, and Citron is a formidable trip to pair with Westbeld. And Texas looks dangerous as well. Hoping for a season of parity.

 

[asuwish]

USC West also added the point guard from Oregon State. Of course we have to see how they play together but the talent and depth is much better then last year. I just like so many of the pieces. UConn's other question is will Geno play his bench? SC bench scored about 30 points a game. 2 years ago Stanford played 12. To win today I think you must embrace depth, something Geno has been reluctant to do the past few years. I'm well aware that injuries limited his options.

 

[Bone Dog]

In my view, SC is the presumptive preseason #1, and not because of anything owed to the reigning champs. It's only because they look to be the best team for next year. Yes, they lost Kamila, but they have a deep roster and discovered some great talents among the freshmen toward the end of the season: i.e. Tessa Johnson.

USCw might turn out to be among the best, but they have proven nothing yet, and coach Gottlieb has yet to show that she can build a great program. But she has seemed to turn a corner when it comes to recruiting. They deserve watching to see what Gottlieb can accomplish. The year is young.

But this means that UConn and Texas ought to be placed above USCw as preseason picks. I'm not sure where to place ND, who have the core of an awesome team in Olivia Hannah Soni Anna and Maddie. What they lack is a healthy big, but we'll see what the portal may provide. If they find one, they may merit placing above USCw as well.

With that said, here's my current preseason ranking:

1. SC
2. Texas
3. UConn
4. ND
5. USCw
6. UCLA

That's as far as my crystal ball can see.

 

[packwrap]

With that said, here's my current preseason ranking:

1. SC
2. Texas
3. UConn
4. ND
5. USCw
6. UCLA

That's as far as my crystal ball can see.

I'll agree with this group! If UConn used to be bad for women's hoops, this group is awesome for women's hoops.

Even behind this group are plenty of intriguing teams like Kentucky, Maryland, Ohio St, Oklahoma with new coaches, players, leagues etc. Plenty of entertainment.

 

[bballnut90]

South Carolina should be unanimous #1. They have everyone but Cardoso back and Watkins is perfect to fill her spot with no drop off defensively. When Cardoso was out, South Carolina was still incredibly dominant. They are deeper and more athletic in the post than any other team and bring in good HS talent to supplement both the backcourt and front court. They went undefeated last year and played elite level basketball on both ends of the court. Coaching wise, Dawn is on another level at the moment. She has won 4 of the last 5 COY awards and has had the best program in women’s basketball the last 5 years, going 167-9 over that time frame and 109-3 in the last 3 seasons. No question in my mind they’ll start out #1.

USC’s good on paper but is far from a sure thing, as it’ll be a brand new lineup aside from Juju Watkins and Rayah Marshall. There is a lot of talent and the pieces are there but it’ll require a better offensive system than they had this year, as well as incorporating players used to playing in very different offensive systems. I think both UCONN and Texas look like stronger teams to start the year, largely due to coaching and they both have standouts returning. UCONN’s main question mark is post play, as a lot of fans are putting their hopes on a freshman coming off an ACL, but they have Bueckers who will be an early favorite for POY and bring in the #1 recruit in Strong to help on the wing. Texas is looking rock solid on paper but Madison Booker will have to adjust to playing off ball after a brilliant year as a freshman point guard. Texas also will have to incorporate Phelia who will have a reduced role in Austin, so I expect them to have ups and downs as players figure out their positions. IMO, South Carolina is the only sure thing going into next year, but many teams have a lot of potential, including LSU who people are underestimating despite having one of the most athletic lineups in the country and an all time great coach.

 

[Aluminny69]

It remains to be seen how both SoCal and UCLA handle traveling distances to play half their games.

 

[AzzisBraids]

UConn is a top 2 team no matter what any other team does and no one can tell me different until the season starts.

 

[Cuango]

even though USC west has seemingly the whole package (juju, insane recruiting class, insane transfers) i feel like they should still give preseason #1 to USC east, to reward the natty winners and bc they still got a good recruiting class despite losing cardoso. also last season lsu was in a similar situation to USC west, with a lot of offseason moves and hype, but it didn't necessarily translate

They’re waay too scared of Dawn to make anyone else #1! Seriously, though, South Carolina, as National Champions should (and will imo) begin the year as a deserved #1! After that, there will be a battle between us, USC, and UCLA for two through four. I think it should be SC, UConn, USC, Texas, UCLA, and ND but what do I know?

 

[Cuango]

For Southern Cal, a lot of it depends on their freshman. Juju and Iriafen can lay claim to being the best duo in the country, but basketball is a 5x5 game. TVO and Marshall should be able to be solid role players, but they still need young players to step up. Can totally happen but I am not awarding them the NC just yet.

South Carolina takes a big hit with Cardoso gone. She had a Griner like effect sometimes, altering opponents inside game defensively. Plus she dominated the boards. That skill at that size was a huge advantage. However, they return pretty much everything else, add good recruits, will see young players get better, and have the chemistry. They are my #1 for now.

Since it’s a uconn board, I’ll just say that the huskies are a giant question mark to me. On paper we have so many options, so many highly regarded youngsters. But the true key will be how do players look post injury, and can they stay healthy. One advantage seems like we have the potential to shoot lights out. Lots of intrigue.

I’m also not sleeping on ND. Miles, Hidalgo, and Citron is a formidable trip to pair with Westbeld. And Texas looks dangerous as well. Hoping for a season of parity.

Yeah, I think Paige & Sarah are a better duo than that.

 

[Skeets]

They’re waay too scared of Dawn to make anyone else #1! Seriously, though, South Carolina, as National Champions should (and will imo) begin the year as a deserved #1! After that, there will be a battle between us, USC, and UCLA for two through four. I think it should be SC, UConn, USC, Texas, UCLA, and ND but what do I know?

I agree. That's my list too. I also believe whoever wins the NC is #1 and stays #1 until some team proves otherwise. You have to knock the king of the hill off the mountain.

 

[visitingcock]

I agree. That's my list too. I also believe whoever wins the NC is #1 and stays #1 until some team proves otherwise. You have to knock the king of the hill off the mountain.

I agree that generally, umber one stays number one until beaten. There can be exceptions such as a team that loses five starters, but generally that should be the rule.

 

[meyers7]

There is no USC east and west. There's USC and there's S. Carolina.

As Regina said, "Stop trying to make USC happen. It's not going to happen."

 

[GoUconn7961]

You guys ever get on YouTube and listen to the channel Back 2 Sports? This guy has excellent takes on this. He did an analysis of USC after Kiki committed. He also does a lot of analysis on UConn. I found his take on what you're discussing quite interesting.

 

[Ozimoto]

A good water cooler discussion for sure. Any of these teams could have any number of things happen to their rosters between now and November. The rankings and landscape could change completely.

 

[WiseWillie]

In my view, SC is the presumptive preseason #1, and not because of anything owed to the reigning champs. It's only because they look to be the best team for next year. Yes, they lost Kamila, but they have a deep roster and discovered some great talents among the freshmen toward the end of the season: i.e. Tessa Johnson.

USCw might turn out to be among the best, but they have proven nothing yet, and coach Gottlieb has yet to show that she can build a great program. But she has seemed to turn a corner when it comes to recruiting. They deserve watching to see what Gottlieb can accomplish. The year is young.

But this means that UConn and Texas ought to be placed above USCw as preseason picks. I'm not sure where to place ND, who have the core of an awesome team in Olivia Hannah Soni Anna and Maddie. What they lack is a healthy big, but we'll see what the portal may provide. If they find one, they may merit placing above USCw as well.

With that said, here's my current preseason ranking:

1. SC
2. Texas
3. UConn
4. ND
5. USCw
6. UCLA

That's as far as my crystal ball can see.

Want to get a heated discussion going? Start talking about ranking teams before anyone knows what they're talking about. Where's Carnac?

I'm staying out of the fray because first IT'S MAY, folks, not November and it's way too early to start theorizing 4 to 6 months from now (and folks that's all it is, merely theory and opinion based on very little if anything factual), but I do have one request for all BY'ers: Please stop this "USCW" and "USCE". It looks dumb; it is dumb. Southern Cal for eons has gone by USC and South Carolina has always gone by just SC. That's it.

Now keep those theories and prognostications rolling based on mostly dated and/or invalid information to come up with what the author hopes to be a valid, extremely knowledgeable argument because that's what we do. Gotta love it.

 

[Bone Dog]

I agree that generally, umber one stays number one until beaten. There can be exceptions such as a team that loses five starters, but generally that should be the rule.

I disagree in principle… sort of. What a team did the previous season doesn’t earn them a preseason ranking in the next one. Too many things change — their roster, everyone else’s roster, experience, coaches, class work, etc. SC should be the preseason #1 because they appear to be the best team and for no other reason.

However, the fact that they won the NC goes into all of our estimations of how good they’ll be. That’s how far Dawn was able to take a similar group of kids. By the same token, that Geno got UConn to the final four figures in our sense of how good they’ll be next season. But it doesn’t earn them any special consideration.

 

[CL82]

I agree that generally, umber one stays number one until beaten. There can be exceptions such as a team that loses five starters, but generally that should be the rule.

It wasn't that way for the Connecticut men's team at the start of last season. Of course, it was that way for the Connecticut men's team at the end of last season.