Mmm. I think most universities would have scheduled the game, particularly for the best WCBB player of all time. That said, Q is well within his rights to decline the game. Just as everyone else is within their rights to call him out on that decision.The list of seniors at Uconn for whom the program has had to hunt for some school able to accommodate them for a home game is legion - UC Davis being the most recent found school for KML after more well know schools declined. I wish people would just drop this idea that what Syracuse did was anything other than standard operating procedure for most universities. Cheers for Colgate and College of Charleston and the like but get off the high horse.
Syracuse scares me. They are so unorthodox: 3pt-crazy, constant pressure, high aggression, and 9-player rotation. Still, they haven't seen anything like UConn's transition and half-court offense and paralyzing defense.. UConn by 20.
Ok, Carnac, you've convinced me. I just called my bookie and bet my life's savings. If UConn loses, I'm trusting you to reimburse me.Let me help you out NewCorn.
As the official "Boneyard prognosticator", I'll take it from here. All of my notes, observations, sources, eye tests and other psychic aids indicate that UConn will win handily. How soon we forget. Some UConn fan's attention has become mis-directed and focused in the wrong direction. Some of them have been mesmerized and blinded by the recent success of Syracuse.
They forget that these milestones were not accomplished against the likes of UConn.
Have we already forgotten the praise and accolades that Mississippi head coach Vic Shaefer or Duquesne head coach Dan Burt made during post-game pressers about the huskies just last week? They know a little something about WCBB. They observed first hand and up close how dominate UConn is (not can be..is!). Both of these coaches said that in their opinion, no one is going to beat UConn. ESPN studio analysts Kara Lawson and Rebecca Lobo who also know a little something about the women's game, also pick UConn going away. Two other veteran college basketball analysts Seth Greenberg and Jay Bilas pick Uconn. Not one college basketball analyst is picking Syracuse. So why are we (you) shaking in your boots? Let's look at their 7 losses during the season:
Fri, Nov 20 @ #4 Tennessee - 57-55
Wed Dec 2 @ #5 Maryland - 82-64
Sat Dec 12 #24 Arizona State - 61-54
Thur Jan 7 @ North Carolina - 77-73
Thur Jan 21 @ #3 Notre Dame - 90-62
Mon Jan 25 # 14 Louisville - 71-53 ( back to back losses)
Sun Mar 6 #2 Notre Dame 68-57
I submit to you that UConn is as good or better than any of the programs that beat Syracuse this year. UConn played and beat two of the teams (Maryland & Notre Dame) that beat Syracuse. The Orange lost to a depleted and unranked UNC team. So why are some folks shaking in their boots, and having nervous palpitations about this game? In all of those losses, Syracuse only broke 70 once. If they are going to beat UConn, they are going to have to score more than 70 points. Folks are also quick to forget that UConn is the #1 ranked defense in the country, and they play like it! Of the teams the Orange lost to, I think Notre Dame is closest in similarity to UConn. I look for the outcome to be similar also. Syracuse did not have any luck with Notre Dame.
Syracuse played the Washington Huskies at the Carrier Dome in November, and beat them 66-62, so they were already familiar with them. I recognize and respect that Syracuse is on a roll, but so is UConn.
I'm saying that our best is better than their best. UConn will be lead by the infamous BIG 3. They will not be denied. They are going into this final game with more determination and resolve than ever before.
One more factoid to remember: Geno has never lost a final four championship game. I don't believe he's going to start now. Las Vegas has UConn favored by 24. How much more convincing do you need?
ALL signs point to a UConn victory. Unless you have completely loss all faith in UConn and all they've done up to this point, then relax NewCorn and enjoy the game. I'm predicting a final score of UConn 85 - Syracuse 66.
Go Huskies.
...Born, raised and schooled at SU's college of Forestry... And so yes, the streak of double digit margin of victory will go down tonight. UConn 86- SU 77
...If the college you attended is the one I think it is, that's a SUNY school not an SU school,..
Gosh Arty, you must be board today.-Nice post, cohenzone. Looks like you may have stumped him.
-“Born and raised… at SU's college of Forestry”… sounded pretty shady. SUNY has always taught rooting for orange not only is knotty, but obviously will never make yew poplar there.
-Now that he’s joined us, I too hope he does not leave - clearly ideal material for making posts. I’ll admit, however, while the error here was obviously innocent, any of us confused about where their college of Forestry plays ball, risks being accused of looking bush league.
And for his crazy 9-point prediction??? Wooden surprise me, if as a loyal fan, he merely pulled it out of his ash.
Let me help you out NewCorn.
As the official "Boneyard prognosticator", I'll take it from here. All of my notes, observations, sources, eye tests and other psychic aids indicate that UConn will win handily. How soon we forget. Some UConn fan's attention has become mis-directed and focused in the wrong direction. Some of them have been mesmerized and blinded by the recent success of Syracuse.
They forget that these milestones were not accomplished against the likes of UConn.
Have we already forgotten the praise and accolades that Mississippi head coach Vic Shaefer or Duquesne head coach Dan Burt made during post-game pressers about the huskies just last week? They know a little something about WCBB. They observed first hand and up close how dominate UConn is (not can be..is!). Both of these coaches said that in their opinion, no one is going to beat UConn. ESPN studio analysts Kara Lawson and Rebecca Lobo who also know a little something about the women's game, also pick UConn going away. Two other veteran college basketball analysts Seth Greenberg and Jay Bilas pick Uconn. Not one college basketball analyst is picking Syracuse. So why are we (you) shaking in your boots? Let's look at their 7 losses during the season:
Fri, Nov 20 @ #4 Tennessee - 57-55
Wed Dec 2 @ #5 Maryland - 82-64
Sat Dec 12 #24 Arizona State - 61-54
Thur Jan 7 @ North Carolina - 77-73
Thur Jan 21 @ #3 Notre Dame - 90-62
Mon Jan 25 # 14 Louisville - 71-53 ( back to back losses)
Sun Mar 6 #2 Notre Dame 68-57
I submit to you that UConn is as good or better than any of the programs that beat Syracuse this year. UConn played and beat two of the teams (Maryland & Notre Dame) that beat Syracuse. The Orange lost to a depleted and unranked UNC team. So why are some folks shaking in their boots, and having nervous palpitations about this game? In all of those losses, Syracuse only broke 70 once. If they are going to beat UConn, they are going to have to score more than 70 points. Folks are also quick to forget that UConn is the #1 ranked defense in the country, and they play like it! Of the teams the Orange lost to, I think Notre Dame is closest in similarity to UConn. I look for the outcome to be similar also. Syracuse did not have any luck with Notre Dame.
Syracuse played the Washington Huskies at the Carrier Dome in November, and beat them 66-62, so they were already familiar with them. I recognize and respect that Syracuse is on a roll, but so is UConn.
I'm saying that our best is better than their best. UConn will be lead by the infamous BIG 3. They will not be denied. They are going into this final game with more determination and resolve than ever before.
One more factoid to remember: Geno has never lost a final four championship game. I don't believe he's going to start now. Las Vegas has UConn favored by 24. How much more convincing do you need?
ALL signs point to a UConn victory. Unless you have completely loss all faith in UConn and all they've done up to this point, then relax NewCorn and enjoy the game. I'm predicting a final score of UConn 85 - Syracuse 66.
Go Huskies.
Ok, Carnac, you've convinced me. I just called my bookie and bet my life's savings. If UConn loses, I'm trusting you to reimburse me.
Well,... yes, yes! That’s exactly right! How’d you… Aww..you axed a palm reader, right?Gosh Arty, you must be board today.
Syracuse scares me. They are so unorthodox: 3pt-crazy, constant pressure, high aggression, and 9-player rotation. Still, they haven't seen anything like UConn's transition and half-court offense and paralyzing defense.. UConn by 20.
Nice post, but a technicality. If the college you attended is the one I think it is, that's a SUNY school not an SU school, even though the SUNY school is next to the Dome. A very close relative of mine is a Prof there and to my knowledge, their hoops are likely to be the hula type than the round ball kind.
When this very close relative of mine was applying to undergrad schools, he applied to ESF which at the time was only for upper level undergrads with a special relationship with SU where Frosh and Sophs could enroll. Once they went 4 year, the SU connection was reduced to students at each being able to take some course offerings. For what it's worth, this close relative decided to do undergrad elsewhere and never attended ESF as a student. Now, his office is about 20' from the Dome. I have several family members who are SU grads. I did summer courses at the law school which is just the other side of the dome from ESF, but when I was there, Archbold Stadium still stood and hoops were all at Manley.A History of ESF
Founded in 1911 to "help in the solution of forestry problems" the New York State College of Forestry was founded in partnership with Syracuse University. That first year, 52 students enrolled, and there were two faculty members along with Dean Hugh P. Baker. Classes met in two classrooms in the basement of Lyman Hall of Natural Sciences on the SU campus.
ESF Traditions
"Eustace B. Nifkin" and other things that are uniquely ESF![]()
Under the direction of Dean Baker, the faculty grew and forest lands for instructional and experimental purposes were secured. One of the hallmarks of the College is its research, which dates back to 1912. A study on what firms were using wood in New York State and the species and quantities of lumber they used was the forerunner of countless research projects conducted at the College over the years.
In 1912, the College opened its Ranger School in Wanakena, N.Y., in the Adirondacks. Students from the College in Syracuse spent two months "blasting out rocks, and leveling enough ground for the first frame building which was to serve as classroom, dining room, kitchen and sleeping quarters."
The state purchased 12 acres of land adjacent to Syracuse University from the university in 1913. Four years later, Bray Hall was completed and the College "gained a permanent home. But there were no state funds available to hire vehicles and workers to move the books, furniture, desks, surveying and laboratory equipment and other college possessions from temporary quarters at Syracuse University to the new building. Faculty members and approximately 200 students volunteered their services and completed the move in just two days." Bray remained the only building on the ESF campus until Marshall Hall's completion in 1933.
From the early years of its existence, College leaders saw the need to respond to the broader, rather than more specific, needs of environmental professionalism. Over the years, programs were added in design, engineering, and life sciences, as well as natural resources management.
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THE FIRST WOMEN TO EARN BACHELOR'S DEGREES AT THE COLLEGE WERE MILDRED KOCIC (LEFT), RUTH WORRET (CENTER), AND BARBARA HENNESSEY (RIGHT). THEY MAJORED IN PULP AND PAPER, AND LANDSCAPE AND RECREATIONAL MANAGEMENT. ALL GRADUATED IN THE LATE 1940S. (FROM COLLEGE OF FORESTRY AT SYRACUSE UNIVERSITY 1911 - 1961)
In the late 1940s the first women graduated from the College, one with a degree in landscape engineering and two with degrees in pulp and paper. While these were the first women to complete their degrees, the college had been enrolling women as early as 1915.
With the formation of the State University of New York in 1948, the College became recognized as a specialized college within the state university system, having been state-supported from the very beginning. The name was changed to the State University College of Forestry at Syracuse University.
In 1972, the College's name and focus were changed yet again, to better reflect the tradition and grounding of forestry in the environment, and the capabilities of our academic programs. By special act of the New York State Legislature, the College became the State University of New York College of Environmental Science and Forestry.
The Frosh Forester
Listen to this old ESF favorite, sung by a genuine stumpy!
Today, the College is at the forefront of developing the technologies to create a sustainable future. Under the direction of President Quentin Wheeler ESF has taken a leadership role in species preservation, raising public awareness of biodiversity and sustainability.
The campus continues to grow and change. The Gateway Center, the LEED Platinum building that has become the hub of campus life, opened in 2013. The building displays specimens from the College's Roosevelt Wild Life Collection, the Trailhead Café, the offices of Admissions and Outreach and conference space. ESF opened its first residence hall, Centennial Hall, in 2011.
The College offers 24 undergraduate and 30 graduate degree programs, including doctoral (Ph.D.) programs, and is ranked among the nation's finest universities. Our students take an active role in campus life through the student government, clubs and honor societies. And of course, our students take special pride in taking one week to celebrate the campus's favorite holiday—Earth Day.
Let me help you out NewCorn.
I'm predicting a final score of UConn 85 - Syracuse 66.
Go Huskies.