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ochoopsfan said:
I thought the roads were icy and snowy back in that part of the country. Temps in teens for folks who dont deal with that stuff that much,
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Good point. Still a shame though.
 
HuskyFan1125 said:
Vivians was a Parade All American. However not a McDonald's AA.
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I think that may have been the year that Parade changed things and named only seniors to their AA team. I believe that Saniya was their POY.
 
tomcat said:
Hadn't seen DeShields play in a long time. It's hard to watch. All that talent, and she manages to pass the ball to no one, lose the ball, drive and chuck the ball up there and hope for the best. Sheesh.
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Did you see that one occasion after a play when DD put her arm around Nared and was saying something to her, and then it appeared as though Nared reached up to remove her arm? Could have been nothing, of course.

A few games ago someone tried to put her arm around DD, and DD wasn't having it. Makes one wonder.
 
"I thought we'd play better, but we didn't, and they had everything to do with that". MM could learn from that insight.
 
Tenn missed a big opportunity by losing to, Miss St. It's not often one gets the chance to play a team ranked 4th in the nation, at home before 8447 fans ( a disappointment, as many were hoping for 12-15,000) that is a relative cupcake. Certainly, ND and South Carolina won't be as easy to defeat in an attempt to boost their chances for a better placement in the NCAA tourney.

It appears that the Lady Vol's success begins and ends with Diamond DeShields. Every play seems to follow the same pattern. Get the Ball to Diamond, have her curl around multiple screens for a mid range jumper in the paint near the foul line. If a shot is impossible to take, passing is option #2. The problem with this is the success ratio isn't where it needs to be. All too often, Diamond ends up shooting an air ball, dribbling the ball off her leg, passing to an imaginary team mate in the stands, or having the ball taken out of her hands.

On the defensive end, Diamond has made several spectacular plays, including impossible blocks. Her defense has far exceeded her offense. Unfortunately, for the LVs as a team, Diamond appears to be an overall liability.

I have to shake my head when viewing Holly's post game pressers. First, the press corps appears to be tightly restricted in the nature of questions asked. All soft ball and couched in the most positive terms possible. Questions are asked in a manner appropriate when speaking before a dictator with the power of offing one's head at the slightest provocation.

The questions are asked, all good questions per Holly. And the answers are always the same, we're looking good in practice. Everyone playing with great effort. That's all I can ask of them. All this interspersed with I don't knows.
 
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Plebe said:
When Reynolds and Nared went to the bench with 2 fouls, Tennessee went into an offensive drought and MSU surged into the lead.

I don't think MSU is the fourth-best team in the country, but still I'm amazed at how good they are considering they had zero HS all-Americans.
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You are right, they are not the fourth best team in the country. They beat a poorly coached Tn. and if you check their schedule, you will find they have not played any real competition. They will not go far in the tournament, with two players.
 
Does anyone really feel like we learned anything from this game about either team? Tennessee played like crap and only lost by 10 to the "#4" team in the land? I don't know what to make of either team really. I think they need to play each other 4 more times for me to make any sort of determinations either way.
 
Bestiarius said:
It appears that the Lady Vol's success begins and ends with Diamond DeShields. Every play seems to follow the same pattern. Get the Ball to Diamond, have her curl around multiple screens for a mid range jumper in the paint near the foul line. If a shot is impossible to take, passing is option #2. The problem with this is the success ratio isn't where it needs to be. All too often, Diamond ends up shooting an air ball, dribbling the ball off her leg, passing to an imaginary team mate in the stands, or having the ball taken out of her hands.
The questions are asked, all good questions per Holly. And the answers are always the same, we're looking good in practice. Everyone playing with great effort. That's all I can ask of them. All this interspersed with I don't knows.
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I have been watching TN under Holly for a while now, a curl would be and entirely new concept, a single screen would have been accidental, multiple intentional screens would be pure fiction.
 
I have to say the Lady Vol website knows how to put on a positive spin - "Tennessee's valiant second-half comeback attempt fell just short in a 74-64 loss..."
 
I didn't catch the game, but in earlier games I didn't see DD making many shots off curls either. I agree with Bestiarius that DD can be spectacular on defense, but not sure I'd characterize her game as better defensively, because there as well she's completely inconsistent and irratic. That she's capable of such brilliance again goes to the sadness of the situation. When her game can be characterized as "an overall liability" as Bestiarius says, it just goes to show how truly sad this is. Wasted talent.
 
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CocoHusky said:
I have been watching TN under Holly for a while now, a curl would be and entirely new concept, a single screen would have been accidental, multiple intentional screens would be pure fiction.
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I didn't say the screens were intentional. They're just people standing around waiting for DD to do something. Sort of like trees in a forest.:)
 
Plebe said:
When Reynolds and Nared went to the bench with 2 fouls, Tennessee went into an offensive drought and MSU surged into the lead.

I don't think MSU is the fourth-best team in the country, but still I'm amazed at how good they are considering they had zero HS all-Americans.
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Vivians wasn't a McDAA? If so, the fact that Vivians wasn't a HS All-American is also alarming here. I believe she put up over 5,000 points during her high school playing career.. that's absolutely insane.
 
SCGamecock said:
Vivians wasn't a McDAA? If so, the fact that Vivians wasn't a HS All-American is also alarming here. I believe she put up over 5,000 points during her high school playing career.. that's absolutely insane.
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No she was not and I'm not sure I would have disagreed with it very much back then. Both squads were loaded with some very good wings including Gabby Williams who was injured.
Rosters for 2014 McDonald's All American Game -espnW.
 
ochoopsfan said:
I thought the roads were icy and snowy back in that part of the country. Temps in teens for folks who dont deal with that stuff that much,
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Clemson doesn't draw well for MBB, let alone WBB. In fact, they just shrank the number of seats in Port-O-John Coliseum.
 
cockhrnleghrn said:
Clemson doesn't draw well for MBB, let alone WBB. In fact, they just shrank the number of seats in Port-O-John Coliseum.
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But how many did they draw for the Clemson-South Carolina football game ? :cool::p;)
 
Vivians was #36 recruit in my aggregation calculations, based on:

#40 ASGR
#64 ProspectsNation
#84 BlueStar
# 6 FullCourt
#24 Hoopgurlz
 
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Just a thought: I know it will never happen, but I would love to see UConn play TN in the tournament. Not just because it would be a beat-down, but because it would provide some perspective to those who believe the level of basketball played by the Tennessees and Mississippi States is somewhere near the level played by UConn. It's not, and it would be great to demonstrate that.
 
triaddukefan said:
But how many did they draw for the Clemson-South Carolina football game ? :cool::p;)
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FB is the only sport that draws well at Clemson; USC is in the top 20 in just about every sport in attendance, including top 5 in a number of them.
 
cockhrnleghrn said:
FB is the only sport that draws well at Clemson; USC is in the top 20 in just about every sport in attendance, including top 5 in a number of them.
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Clemson was 9th for average baseball attendance in 2015. Aren't we a little biased here?
 
Butch said:
Clemson was 9th for average baseball attendance in 2015. Aren't we a little biased here?
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SC was 4th in baseball attendance and 1st in WBB attendance, etc. Am I biased? Of course I am - they're our arch-rivals.
 
cockhrnleghrn said:
FB is the only sport that draws well at Clemson;
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They will continue to draw well after tonight :);):cool::p:D:rolleyes:

A-C-C !! A-C-C !! :cool:
 
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The effort was there. Just need to clean up the fouls, turn overs, and guard 3 ball better. It didnt help Nared and Reynolds got in foul tro6. at the moment Mercedes is leading the team in scoring.
 
Wbbfan1 said:
Despite being undefeated Miss St is not the 4th best team in the country. Not sure they are in the Top 10. Lady Vols despite their loss should be in the Top 25. They are playing better and should be ranked.

If Miss St ends up in UConn's bracket I can see another blow out. Won't be a 60 point blowout, but UConn wins by 25+ points.
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I beg to disagree with some of your posits. They are probably not the 4th best team but are definitely a top 10 team. They are better than Ohio State, Washington, Louisville and other 7-11 teams. Tennessee has been up and down with some good wins, some decent showings and some really bad losses. With 6 AA's though they are drastically underachieving. They deserve their ranking with their poor record despite their playing well lately. Let's see some more consistency before we place them in top 25.
 
I'm biased but I would take Washington over MS State.
 
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