OT: UNC shuts down in person classes [merged thread]

[oldude]

Shortly after opening up, UNC Chapel Hill shut down in person classes today after 130 students and 5 staff members tested positive for Covid-19. All classes will be taught remotely, and students will be offered refunds on residence fees.

What about football you ask? Football players, as well as other athletes, will be allowed to stay on campus for practice with the expectation that ACC games will take place. Well, at least we know what’s really important at UNC.

 

[eebmg]

I thought the holy writ was that games could happen only if students were on campus.

 

[oldude]

I thought the holy writ was that games could happen only if students were on campus.

I guess the football players are students, more or less, and even though they will be attending classes remotely, they will still be on campus. It does make you wonder what exactly UNC considers as its primary purpose.

 

[msf22b]

School nyet, Football, ja...
The very definition of insanity.

 

[CocoHusky]

I don't know what in the hell these Adults were thinking From the CNN article:

"We (UNC) are disappointed that many of our students chose to ignore Covid-19 public health guidance by congregating in a large group without social distancing or face coverings,"

UNC-Chapel Hill reverses plans for in-person classes after 130 students test positive for Covid-19 | CNN

The University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill abruptly decided it will no longer hold in-person classes on campus after about 130 students tested positive for Covid-19 in the first week since classes began.

www.cnn.com

OSU also struggling with COVID-19 clusters.

Oklahoma State sorority house placed in quarantine after 23 members test positive for Covid-19

Might as well adopt the CocoHusky plan. Everyone ( Kindergarden through college Juniors ) takes a year off.

 

[hoopsfan22]

Might as well adopt the CocoHusky plan. Everyone ( Kindergarden through college Juniors ) takes a year off.

That's probably the best idea I've heard. Essentially just stop the clock on everything. Not sure how teachers get paid or colleges stay in business though.

 

[triaddukefan]

I guess the fake classes are still a go

UNC= University of Northern Colorado ... UNC.Cheat is located in Chapel Hill.

 

[hoopsfan22]

School nyet, Football, ja...
The very definition of insanity.

Look at what's going on at the B1G schools over the decision to cancel football. Embarrassing.

 

[CocoHusky]

That's probably the best idea I've heard. Essentially just stop the clock on everything. Not sure how teaches get paid or colleges stay in business though.

Unemployment? think of all the workers in the food services/restaurant industry that were told to stay home. The government can also fund massive amounts of faculty research and development and maybe something good comes out of it like a new vaccine or better ways to deliver distance learning.

 

[eebmg]

Chapel Boot Hill

 

[oldude]

I don't know what in the hell these Adults were thinking From the CNN article:

"We (UNC) are disappointed that many of our students chose to ignore Covid-19 public health guidance by congregating in a large group without social distancing or face coverings,"

To paraphrase Inspector Renault, “I’m shocked, shocked to find that congregating in large groups is going on in here.”

 

[EdSaid]

If you saw the Nightly News with Lester Holt earlier tonight, you saw hundreds of UNC students around the pool. Not a mask in sight. Then they showed a couple of thousand students at a night time outdoor party, no masks. The 135 will go ten fold by next week. They also mentioned break outs at UConn, Univ or Northern Georgia and Oklahoma State.

Five More UConn Students Test Positive for COVID-19

An additional five University of Connecticut students have tested positive for COVID-19, according to the school. Four University of Connecticut students living on campus have tested positive for COVID-19 and three commuter students have told the school that they have tested positive, according...

www.nbcconnecticut.com

 

[Zinethar]

And this surprises you? I bet most of us attended college, probably a long time ago. I'm sure we would have been far more responsible back then .

 

[UcMiami]

Sitting here in Storrs on the front lines of Uconn return to classes - in-person classes start Aug 31 and any returning students are required to quarantine 14 days before attending classes which means they are arriving as I type. I have locked my doors! But I heard a group of students carousing as they walked down my street around midnight two days ago.

Thinking of running to a small town in NH in a week or two when my supplies run out! Figure by the end of September the school may be all on-line again.

 

[EdSaid]

This does not surprise me at all. I am a retired college administrator and I do not understand the thought process going on at so many of these universities. I just don't get it. My opinion, every college will shut down and go to on-line by mid September. That's like taking one step forward, then being bounced backwards 4-5 steps This is a once in three generation virus, once in a 100 years and we are suppose to be an advanced country.

As far as me back in the day, lets just say I'm glad they didn't have video cameras everywhere.

 

[MilliniumPrince]

I guess the football players are students, more or less, and even though they will be attending classes remotely, they will still be on campus. It does make you wonder what exactly UNC considers as its primary purpose.

I think they have spent the past few years making their purpose quite clear.

 

[BostonBay]

Colleges spent all this money on testing protocols, air filters, etc. and what they really needed was police at every dorm that enforces no large gatherings. We learned NOTHING about why the outbreak happened again this summer in southern states. IMO, most small private colleges in the U.S. will be closed within 2 years. State schools will have to be subsidized to survive.

 

[hoopsfan22]

Colleges spent all this money on testing protocols, air filters, etc. and what they really needed was police at every dorm that enforces no large gatherings. We learned NOTHING about why the outbreak happened again this summer in southern states. IMO, most small private colleges in the U.S. will be closed within 2 years. State schools will have to be subsidized to survive.

Where will the basketball teams play if there are no more schools?

 

[calpedaler]

Might as well adopt the CocoHusky plan. Everyone ( Kindergarden through college Juniors ) takes a year off.

But do we really want to adopt the plan of someone who misspells Kindergarten?

 

[UcMiami]

The student paper in NC publishes:

Editorial: We all saw this coming

"The administration continues to prove they have no shame, and the bar for basic decency keeps getting lower."

www.dailytarheel.com

includes 'clusterf...' so if you will be offended do not read, but accuses the Admin of treating students as cashcows and ignoring local health directives and CDC guidance.

The reality that we all know is 18-25 year olds (as well as younger people) as a whole do not have the awareness and experience to be disciplined in the face of a pandemic, nor the ability to filter all the conflicting noise being spread. (Not that those older and supposedly wiser are all that good at it either!)

 

[Fairfield Fan]

The University of North Carolina has discovered many infected students, and "The Daily Tarheel" went bonkers on the university's leaders:

Editorial: We all saw this coming

"The administration continues to prove they have no shame, and the bar for basic decency keeps getting lower."

www.dailytarheel.com

"...(UNC) Provost Bob Blouin and the rest of the administration are far too eager to attribute blame to parties other than themselves. Matters are rarely as complex as UNC makes them seem. The chancellor of a public university with a multi-billion dollar endowment is hardly powerless — not now, not ever.

"We’re angry — and we’re scared. We’re tired of the gaslighting, tired of the secrecy, tired of being treated like cash cows by a University with such blatant disregard for our lives."

The Washington Post reports, "(UNC) officials announced the change after testing showed rapid spread of the virus — 177 cases of covid-19 were confirmed among students, out of hundreds of tests."

Dearly love to see our team play and win big. But how in the world does it come off?

 

[UConnCat]

Maybe October. Possibly November. December perhaps?

 

[topogigio]

College is prime time for reckless behavior and carefree “what me worry” attitudes. Nothing will ever change that! Whether schools are open or not, this cohort will find other ways to put themselves in harm’s way!

 

[rvwsleep]

Interesting. The students need guidelines (call them rules, laws, proclamations, whatever you like) to protect them from themselves. This is not all that unusual.
In real life there are many laws on the books that are designed for just that purpose.
Even in some sports, rules exist to protect owners from spending freely and as it often turns out, unwisely.

 

[oldude]

The decision by UNC to shut down in person classes and basically send everyone home, with the noted exception of the football team, lends more credence to the argument that it is long overdue for college athletes in revenue sports to be paid for their services.

What is the possible justification for singling out football players to stay on campus other than the fact that they bring in millions of dollars for the University?