UConn's Self-Reported NCAA Violation Involving Kyrie Irving

[JoePgh]

There is an article in the Courant (probably in tomorrow's print edition) which I won't attempt to link, which describes a number of minor, self-reported NCAA violations in many sports. But the one that the article led with involves Geno, Kyrie Irving, and a couple of recruits.

Apparently Geno invited Kyrie to his house last year, and Kyrie arrived early, while Geno was entertaining two recruits and their families. This allowed Kyrie to interact with those recruits and family members for a brief period of time. One of the recruits eventually came to UConn (Aubrey Griffin?), and the other went to Tennessee (Jordan Horston?).

Shortly thereafter, UConn recognized a potential violation and contacted the NCAA. The NCAA said that Irving, as a professional athlete, qualifies as a representative of the school's athletic interests, and that this was therefore a violation. UConn duly self-reported it.

I wonder if that was what convinced Jordan to go to Knoxville???

 

[PAC-12HoopFan]

I gave Geno a pass on that violation in my mind because of the potential uncertainty of the time of Irving's arrival at Geno's house.

I was more surprised to read about the violation involving Dailey and Lister doing evaluation work (could be viewing and/or contacting a recruit) during a "dead period." All collegiate coaches know what you can and can't do during a dead period. UConn doesn't need to do that with respect to recruiting.

 

[Zanzman]

Why would that convince Horston to go elsewhere

 

[DaBball]

These were the three involving the women’s basketball program: UConn’s athletic department has self-reported at least 28 minor violations over the past two years, including one involving Kyrie Irving

“Sept. 15, 2018

Offense: The women’s basketball team scheduled only one day off during an out-of-season week.

Penalty: Three days off during the next declared out-of-season week; letter of education to head coach Geno Auriemma; rules education for women’s basketball coaching staff”

“Sept. 22, 2018

Offense: NBA All-Star Kyrie Irving met women’s basketball recruits at coach Auriemma’s house during official visit.

Penalty: Letter of admonishment to Auriemma; rules education for women’s basketball coaching staff”

“Dec. 26, 2018

Offense: Assistant women’s basketball coaches Chris Dailey and Jasmine Lister evaluated three recruits during a “dead period.”

Penalty: Decrease in recruiting days and recruiting opportunities; letter of admonishment to Dailey and Lister; two-week period of no on-campus recruiting; rules education to women’s basketball coaching staff”

 

[hoopsfan22]

This is disappointing.

 

[Charliebball]

that last one with JL and CD really is inexcusable unless they made a calculated decision that it was necessary to see a player they were about to offer/not offer regardless of the consequences.............

 

[CocoHusky]

These were the three involving the women’s basketball program: UConn’s athletic department has self-reported at least 28 minor violations over the past two years, including one involving Kyrie Irving
“Sept. 15, 2018
Offense: The women’s basketball team scheduled only one day off during an out-of-season week.
Penalty: Three days off during the next declared out-of-season week; letter of education to head coach Geno Auriemma; rules education for women’s basketball coaching staff”
“Sept. 22, 2018
Offense: NBA All-Star Kyrie Irving met women’s basketball recruits at coach Auriemma’s house during official visit. Penalty: Letter of admonishment to Auriemma; rules education for women’s basketball coaching staff”
“Dec. 26, 2018
Offense: Assistant women’s basketball coaches Chris Dailey and Jasmine Lister evaluated three recruits during a “dead period.”
Penalty: Decrease in recruiting days and recruiting opportunities; letter of admonishment to Dailey and Lister; two-week period of no on-campus recruiting; rules education to women’s basketball coaching staff”

I'm both surprised and mildly disappointed in Geno, CD and Jasmine for these violations. These violations, even if taken collectively are minor. However, these infractions are of long established NCAA rules and show a lack of attention to details. Attention to detail is among the pillars of this great program and all three should have known & done better.

 

[Bama fan]

These were the three involving the women’s basketball program: UConn’s athletic department has self-reported at least 28 minor violations over the past two years, including one involving Kyrie Irving

“Sept. 15, 2018

Offense: The women’s basketball team scheduled only one day off during an out-of-season week.

Penalty: Three days off during the next declared out-of-season week; letter of education to head coach Geno Auriemma; rules education for women’s basketball coaching staff”

“Sept. 22, 2018

Offense: NBA All-Star Kyrie Irving met women’s basketball recruits at coach Auriemma’s house during official visit.

Penalty: Letter of admonishment to Auriemma; rules education for women’s basketball coaching staff”

“Dec. 26, 2018

Offense: Assistant women’s basketball coaches Chris Dailey and Jasmine Lister evaluated three recruits during a “dead period.”

Penalty: Decrease in recruiting days and recruiting opportunities; letter of admonishment to Dailey and Lister; two-week period of no on-campus recruiting; rules education to women’s basketball coaching staff”

Now we know what the staff read over the holiday break!

 

[Husky pride]

There is an article in the Courant (probably in tomorrow's print edition) which I won't attempt to link, which describes a number of minor, self-reported NCAA violations in many sports. But the one that the article led with involves Geno, Kyrie Irving, and a couple of recruits.

Apparently Geno invited Kyrie to his house last year, and Kyrie arrived early, while Geno was entertaining two recruits and their families. This allowed Kyrie to interact with those recruits and family members for a brief period of time. One of the recruits eventually came to UConn (Aubrey Griffin?), and the other went to Tennessee (Jordan Horston?).

Shortly thereafter, UConn recognized a potential violation and contacted the NCAA. The NCAA said that Irving, as a professional athlete, qualifies as a representative of the school's athletic interests, and that this was therefore a violation. UConn duly self-reported it.

I wonder if that was what convinced Jordan to go to Knoxville???

I have to admit that if the NCAA wasn’t so pathetic .......these violations would bother me a lot more.

 

[UConnCat]

I wonder if that was what convinced Jordan to go to Knoxville???

Yeah, that's it. The shoplifter was offended by a then-unknown and later self-reported Tier 3 recruiting violation.

 

[tower1]

Some of the people on this site make laugh sometime. Read some of these posts and you'll see what I'm talking about.

 

[Huskie02]

I'm both surprised and mildly disappointed in Geno, CD and Jasmine for these violations. These violations, even if taken collectively are minor. However, these infractions are of long established NCAA rules and show a lack of attention to details. Attention to detail is among the pillars of this great program and all three should have known & done better.

Aren’t there people in the athletic department whose sole responsibility is to make sure all the rules are properly followed? Shouldn’t they know what the coaching staff is up to or should t the coaching staff report What they are doing to ensure no rules are violated?

 

[soxfan23]

Some of the people on this site make laugh sometime. Read some of these posts and you'll see what I'm talking about.

Absolutely, some people have not a clue, yet they post with the conviction of an expert!

 

[AgStatesman]

I have to admit that if the NCAA wasn’t so pathetic .......these violations would bother me a lot more.

This exactly. While these are violations, they are not North Carolina where basketball players had tests taken for them and it isn't any of a bunch of adidas schools where recruits were paid a lot of money to entice them to go to school there. Until bigger violations become an issue I can't be too bothered by minor infractions.

 

[soxfan23]

This exactly. While these are violations, they are not North Carolina where basketball players had tests taken for them and it isn't any of a bunch of adidas schools where recruits were paid a lot of money to entice them to go to school there. Until bigger violations become an issue I can't be too bothered by minor infractions.

EVERY single program in the country commits these minor penalties, it is simply the cost of doing business!

 

[CocoHusky]

Aren’t there people in the athletic department whose sole responsibility is to make sure all the rules are properly followed? Shouldn’t they know what the coaching staff is up to or should t the coaching staff report What they are doing to ensure no rules are violated?

Yes there are people responsible for compliance. The operative word there is "people"-as in prone to make an occasional mistake.

 

[bluedevil]

27 0f them..lol

 

[CocoHusky]

EVERY single program in the country commits these minor penalties, it is simply the cost of doing business!

I don't think UCONN WBB is striving to be like "every single program in the country" in compliance, in basketball or life in general. These are minor violations that should have been avoided because the rules are very clear.

 

[Calbysdad]

I bet the Kyrie issue happened when they were recording Geno's podcast. If Kyrie arrived early, what do you do...keep him outside until the recruits leave?

The CD and JL violation is much more curious to me. Hard to believe it was an oversight. Love to hear their explanation.

 

[soxfan23]

I don't think UCONN WBB is striving to be like "every single program in the country" in compliance, in basketball or life in general. These are minor violations that should have been avoided because the rules are very clear.

Yes, but I just don't think people realize how many regulations there are, it is virtually impossible to be 100% compliant. The whole reason the NCAA instituted the self reporting policy is because of just how common these infractions are.

 

[DaBball]

Oh Raoul:

 

[Argonaut]

Oh Raoul:

I really appreciate all of the work Raoul does, but his anti-UConn stance is frustrating.

I’d like to see the list of everyone’s violations — self-reported and otherwise.

 

[KnightBridgeAZ]

I really appreciate all of the work Raoul does, but his anti-UConn stance is frustrating.

I’d like to see the list of everyone’s violations — self-reported and otherwise.

No, you really wouldn't. To begin with, the list would be ridiculously long, and the regulations obscure. I know a few of Rutgers' violations.

The oddest I specifically know of involved the time Rutgers was playing at Seton Hall and a prospective recruit's mother walked up to CVS and gave her a hug. Seton Hall promptly reported Rutgers for the unauthorized contact with the recruit's (Essence Carson) mother. Another involved giving the fan club a tour of the locker room at which time a locker was set up with a fake jersey, etc. for a prospective recruit (who went elsewhere, eventually). Rutgers gave permission to a player (Tasha Pointer, I think) to play in a summer league game without NCAA authorization. A player went to a WNBA game on the fan club bus during the summer prior to her freshman year (she paid her own way). And yes, the same sort of "dead period" stuff, IIRC. Also excessive practices, at one time. And Vivian was suspended a game by the NCAA once, I don't remember what she did.

As several have said, every program has them, and I suppose most self-report them, because the punishments are generally mild, as the violations are minor.

I do find truth in what Raoul was complaining about, as those sort of violations seem to occur frequently across the WBB landscape and are just inexplicable. As others say, there are whole departments whose sole job is to keep the coaches in line.

 

[meyers7]

“Sept. 15, 2018

Offense: The women’s basketball team scheduled only one day off during an out-of-season week.

Penalty: Three days off during the next declared out-of-season week; letter of education to head coach Geno Auriemma; rules education for women’s basketball coaching staff”

Just a scheduling snafu. Seen that one a lot of time at different schools. Only affects the players who probably would have been playing pickup or hitting the gym anyway.

“Sept. 22, 2018

Offense: NBA All-Star Kyrie Irving met women’s basketball recruits at coach Auriemma’s house during official visit.

Penalty: Letter of admonishment to Auriemma; rules education for women’s basketball coaching staff”

Wrong place, wrong time. Not much you could have done about this one. And it didn't even help with the main target.

“Dec. 26, 2018

Offense: Assistant women’s basketball coaches Chris Dailey and Jasmine Lister evaluated three recruits during a “dead period.”

Penalty: Decrease in recruiting days and recruiting opportunities; letter of admonishment to Dailey and Lister; two-week period of no on-campus recruiting; rules education to women’s basketball coaching staff”

This one they should have known. You gotta know when the dead period is. Heck the dead period is mostly for the coaches.

 

[tower1]

Absolutely, some people have not a clue, yet they post with the conviction of an expert!

EXACTLY !

 

[Argonaut]

No, you really wouldn't. To begin with, the list would be ridiculously long, and the regulations obscure. I know a few of Rutgers' violations.

The oddest I specifically know of involved the time Rutgers was playing at Seton Hall and a prospective recruit's mother walked up to CVS and gave her a hug. Seton Hall promptly reported Rutgers for the unauthorized contact with the recruit's (Essence Carson) mother. Another involved giving the fan club a tour of the locker room at which time a locker was set up with a fake jersey, etc. for a prospective recruit (who went elsewhere, eventually). Rutgers gave permission to a player (Tasha Pointer, I think) to play in a summer league game without NCAA authorization. A player went to a WNBA game on the fan club bus during the summer prior to her freshman year (she paid her own way). And yes, the same sort of "dead period" stuff, IIRC. Also excessive practices, at one time. And Vivian was suspended a game by the NCAA once, I don't remember what she did.

As several have said, every program has them, and I suppose most self-report them, because the punishments are generally mild, as the violations are minor.

I do find truth in what Raoul was complaining about, as those sort of violations seem to occur frequently across the WBB landscape and are just inexplicable. As others say, there are whole departments whose sole job is to keep the coaches in line.

That was kind of my point. Every program has these violations, despite compliance folks existing to babysit coaches, so why passive aggressively call out CD and JL? If your beef is with the system (read: the NCAA), then direct the frustrations there, but calling out one coach from one program in a sea of violations is petty.

 

[BostonBay]

The witch-hunt continues against Geno! Jealousy is everywhere.

 

[bschwartz]

Not sure what the correct adjective is but it is something that one of the recruits that went to Geno's house went to UConn and the other...went to Tennessee. Hmmm.

 

[Martin]

This should not surprise. Uconn men’s and women's programs recruiting tactics are nothing short of relentless over the years. Relentless can be a positive or a negative trait. There is also risk vs reward here. I can imagine a Compliance department will provide an opinion and the coach’s will way the penalty vs the reward. Is a letter and then losing 3 days of recruiting a-big enough penalty to deter certain behavior? In some cases no. Not if in the end you get your guy/woman. You can’t be this good for this long without being relentless.

 

[CocoHusky]

This should not surprise. Uconn men’s and women's programs recruiting tactics are nothing short of relentless over the years. Relentless can be a positive or a negative trait. There is also risk vs reward here. I can imagine a Compliance department will provide an opinion and the coach’s will way the penalty vs the reward. Is a letter and then losing 3 days of recruiting a-big enough penalty to deter certain behavior? In some cases no. Not if in the end you get your guy/woman. You can’t be this good for this long without being relentless.

BS! There has never been a recruit that has caused or will cause UCONN to intentionally break recruiting rules.