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Guessing that averaging 10 wins a year while playing in the top G5 conference during the Edsall 2.0 years has consequences just like averaging 2 wins a year during the same time has consequences. Or perhaps it was the struggle to beat the FCS schools on the schedule for a decade? An on-campus stadium would be nice, but one season of decent ball is not going to make it happen.
I'm not sure what your post has to do with mine. No number of wins is going to get us an on-campus stadium. The only way UConn might get an on-campus stadium is if a P4 conference made it a requirement for an invitation, and even then CT would probably find a way to mess it up.
 
That may be what holds UConn back. USF is making the commitment. We want UConn to be included but we are trying to get there on the cheap.

"When Weatherford sought final financing approval from the state, he highlighted the Bulls’ four American Athletic Conference peers — Houston, Cincinnati, SMU and rival UCF — that earned spots in the Big 12 or ACC."
So, let's look at the new various stadiums. SMU holds 32k, Cincy has been expanded to 40k, Houston is 40k, UCF is 44.2k, and the new USF stadium is 35k. The Rent is ~40k and can had 42.7k for the Michigan game. The Rent did not hold back UConn getting a P5/4 invite, but the play of the field and the lack of football history did.

I have been to a number of college football stadiums and the Rent is a perfectly find football stadium and it can be expanded to 60k. Go to some of the P4 stadiums and you will find no legroom, narrow seats, and inadequate concessions and restrooms. In some cases, difficult tailgating. The Rent has very easy parking, access, and tailgating as well as good legroom and seat spacing.
 
So, let's look at the new various stadiums. SMU holds 32k, Cincy has been expanded to 40k, Houston is 40k, UCF is 44.2k, and the new USF stadium is 35k. The Rent is ~40k and can had 42.7k for the Michigan game. The Rent did not hold back UConn getting a P5/4 invite, but the play of the field and the lack of football history did.

I have been to a number of college football stadiums and the Rent is a perfectly find football stadium and it can be expanded to 60k. Go to some of the P4 stadiums and you will find no legroom, narrow seats, and inadequate concessions and restrooms. In some cases, difficult tailgating. The Rent has very easy parking, access, and tailgating as well as good legroom and seat spacing.
The bottom line is the stadium is in the East Hartford wasteland. Programs fly to CT and all they see are Bradley and Retnschler Field. It's college football. Not abandoned airfield football. The stadiums you mentioned are all nice on-campus stadiums which is a far superior model than ours. That's just the way it is.
 
The bottom line is the stadium is in the East Hartford wasteland. Programs fly to CT and all they see are Bradley and Retnschler Field. It's college football. Not abandoned airfield football. The stadiums you mentioned are all nice on-campus stadiums which is a far superior model than ours. That's just the way it is.
Back when the stadium opened and we were winning 8-10 games regularly and playing solid programs, that stadium was packed. It sure felt like a college stadium to me. I sat in the student section when Tyler Placko false started or had a delay of game 3 straight downs from their own 20 because the student section was so loud. Winning cures all. Win and the fans come back and your stadium that you keep complaining about will feel like a college stadium again.

At the beginning we parked on a runway and had to tailgate close to our cars so we didn't get fun over. Now there are larger fields for true tailgates. All that's missing are the wins and we'll be back.
 
Back when the stadium opened and we were winning 8-10 games regularly and playing solid programs, that stadium was packed. It sure felt like a college stadium to me. I sat in the student section when Tyler Placko false started or had a delay of game 3 straight downs from their own 20 because the student section was so loud. Winning cures all. Win and the fans come back and your stadium that you keep complaining about will feel like a college stadium again.

At the beginning we parked on a runway and had to tailgate close to our cars so we didn't get fun over. Now there are larger fields for true tailgates. All that's missing are the wins and we'll be back.
Sure the games are fun and tailgating is top notch. I suppose you could poll students who don't go to many games because of the distance. Students who don't go to games but might if they were on campus. Alumni who haven't been to the campus in years. You don't have to agree that an on-campus stadium would be far better than East Hartford. But the proof is in the vast majority of college campuses which have stadiums on campus and use those stadiums all the time.
 
The bottom line is the stadium is in the East Hartford wasteland. Programs fly to CT and all they see are Bradley and Retnschler Field. It's college football. Not abandoned airfield football. The stadiums you mentioned are all nice on-campus stadiums which is a far superior model than ours. That's just the way it is.
It has been said that the ease of getting from Bradley to the stadium is a plus for visiting teams.
 
It has been said that the ease of getting from Bradley to the stadium is a plus for visiting teams.
Those Rent supporters are ambitious. I am sure college football players are all about the bus ride from the airport to the stadium. It's all about the bus ride. In fact UMass is considering building a new stadium not on campus but in Agawam to be closer to Bradley. and 6 Flags.
 
Those Rent supporters are ambitious. I am sure college football players are all about the bus ride from the airport to the stadium. It's all about the bus ride. In fact UMass is considering building a new stadium not on campus but in Agawam to be closer to Bradley. and 6 Flags.
It has nothing to do with the football players. It has to do with those who are scheduling games.
 
It has nothing to do with the football players. It has to do with those who are scheduling games.
haha. come on. the ride from Bradley to East Harford has zero to do with anything. at least if we are talking DI football.
 
I have a coworker who's father retired to Alabama a couple years ago (he was stationed there when in the Army and decided from a young age that he would retire there).

He sold his house (I believe in New Fairfield) for $700k (it would have been worth about $1.1mm where I am) bought land and built a bigger house down in Alabama for ~$260k.

Things are a bit less expensive there.

I'd also like to see how it was built (concrete vs steel). If it's similar to the tuna can that UCF built I'm not sure how solid if a structure it would be.
My brother has a house in New Fairfield on one and an half acre, the house is modest but it was recently appraised at $1.2 Mil. New Fairfield is not cheap, especially if you’re anywhere near Lake Candlewood.
 
It has been said that the ease of getting from Bradley to the stadium is a plus for visiting teams.
Of course, that easy drive from the airport "isn't getting us into a P4" either.

Put me on team "the Rent is perfectly fine". It is, it's just a half hour too far West. For those who say that having our football stadium, a half hour's drive campus isn't the reason we're not in a P4, I'm inclined to agree, but it definitely isn't helping us. In fact, in our last big 12 dalliance, it was specifically mentioned as a negative factor by big 12 athletic directors. Not having a on campus stadium is taken as a statement that we're not "serious" about football.

On the other hand, it is a perfectly fine stadium with great tailgating, and not a bad seat in the place. I am grateful to have it and there isn't a reason in the world why we should abandon the place. But it is reaching the end of its useful life at 20 years old. Maybe there's 10 years left in it with nominal investment to keep it going. But at that point it will require significant investment. It seems prudent then to think about whether that investment makes more sense in East Hartford or actually on campus.

The Rent is "perfectly fine" today. Maybe our goal should be for something more than "perfectly fine" for tomorrow.
 
Of course, that easy drive from the airport "isn't getting us into a P4" either.

Put me on team "the Rent is perfectly fine". It is, it's just a half hour too far West. For those who say that having our football stadium, a half hour's drive campus isn't the reason we're not in a P4, I'm inclined to agree, but it definitely isn't helping us. In fact, in our last big 12 dalliance, it was specifically mentioned as a negative factor by big 12 athletic directors. Not having a on campus stadium is taken as a statement that we're not "serious" about football.

On the other hand, it is a perfectly fine stadium with great tailgating, and not a bad seat in the place. I am grateful to have it and there isn't a reason in the world why we should abandon the place. But it is reaching the end of its useful life at 20 years old. Maybe there's 10 years left in it with nominal investment to keep it going. But at that point it will require significant investment. It seems prudent then to think about whether that investment makes more sense in East Hartford or actually on campus.

The Rent is "perfectly fine" today. Maybe our goal should be for something more than "perfectly fine" for tomorrow.
Odd. ITS never mentioned by any of their ADs publically we had become in a linear fashion a bad football program as a measure of our commitment to football but the stadium the stadium. It's where they have the stadium that's holding back their votes. 7-8 wins a year and this would be a nothing burger.
 
Odd. ITS never mentioned by any of their ADs publically we had become in a linear fashion a bad football program as a measure of our commitment to football but the stadium the stadium. It's where they have the stadium that's holding back their votes. 7-8 wins a year and this would be a nothing burger.
I'm not sure that seven or eight wins a year will make a difference one way or the other. If we get invited to a P4 it is unlikely that will be because they need us to improve the quality of their football. It it will, in all likelihood, be due to some geographic or demographic reason which improves the target conference's overall financial health. In the case of the big 12, it may, in fact, be due to the strength of our basketball programs, which, would be ironic.

That said, not having our own stadium and being forced to lease a Stadium a half hour away from campus owned by a regional redevelopment agency makes a statement about our apparent commitment to football. I agree that if someone wants us, it won't matter. But if someone doesn't want us, it becomes part of the litany against our admission.
 
That said, not having our own stadium and being forced to lease a Stadium a half hour away from campus owned by a regional redevelopment agency makes a statement about our apparent commitment to football.
I know you know but for clarification for the casual fans: The State of Connecticut owns Pratt & Whitney Stadium.
 
Of course, that easy drive from the airport "isn't getting us into a P4" either.

Put me on team "the Rent is perfectly fine". It is, it's just a half hour too far West. For those who say that having our football stadium, a half hour's drive campus isn't the reason we're not in a P4, I'm inclined to agree, but it definitely isn't helping us. In fact, in our last big 12 dalliance, it was specifically mentioned as a negative factor by big 12 athletic directors. Not having a on campus stadium is taken as a statement that we're not "serious" about football.

On the other hand, it is a perfectly fine stadium with great tailgating, and not a bad seat in the place. I am grateful to have it and there isn't a reason in the world why we should abandon the place. But it is reaching the end of its useful life at 20 years old. Maybe there's 10 years left in it with nominal investment to keep it going. But at that point it will require significant investment. It seems prudent then to think about whether that investment makes more sense in East Hartford or actually on campus.

The Rent is "perfectly fine" today. Maybe our goal should be for something more than "perfectly fine" for tomorrow.
This is really the gist. At some point it will require much much more investment. If a P4 invite comes then we need a much better stadium in either location. It would make more sense if there were another tenant or two to share the cost and usage but for one football program, it's a very expensive proposition. We can all agree the stadium is fine. For P4 we would need expansion and a great deal of improvements. If we stay G5 or <gulp> go FCS, then smaller and better makes sense.

Look at Gillette. It's not in Boston but the stadium and all their offices are there. Shopping retail and dining. Many other events held at the stadium.

Analogy: You have your home mansion and you own a small summer cottage. You would install a magnificent inground pool at your home and use an intex pool at your cottage because the intex pool works fine. Loo
 
I know you know but for clarification for the casual fans: The State of Connecticut owns Pratt & Whitney Stadium.
Yep. It's owned by the state, but managed by the CDRA who hire Oak View Group to be management company for the management company. Ironically, I think it's a part of the Office of Policy and Management. Apparently running the football stadium requires three layers of management.

So the state of Connecticut pays the University of Connecticut, who in turn funds the athletic department, to pay the CDRA so that it's annual loss is smaller, but the annual loss is paid for by the state of Connecticut. It would seem to me that there's some efficiency in simply allowing this university to play at the Rent for free rather than have the state pay us to pay them, which appears to be a mechanism to hide part of the CDRA's annual multimillion dollar loss in the athletic department's budget.
 
People want to support a winning team. If you win, they will come. CT fans are very fair weather. We all know this.
 
Acknowledging we will remain at The Rent for the forseeable future. But checking out the new stadium being built at USF and the excitement it is generating. I sure am jealous. I've said it before. USF plays at an NFL stadium just 10 down the road in the center of Tampa and is still making the investment on campus. That's a Power move.


"An on-campus stadium is bigger than football. While it will have a tremendous impact on the Bulls football program, the stadium will provide a unique, vibrant, shared campus experience that will contribute to the culture, spirit and connectedness of the university, not just during fall football games but throughout the year. It will provide students, staff and faculty a place of their own to gather and share their passion for USF while giving alumni and community members a compelling reason to return and experience the beauty and energy of our ever-evolving campus and students. It will be a place where incredible memories are built across generations, that reminds us why USF is so great and stirs our passion for the university."
 
USF Stadium revenue opportunities


"Stadium naming rights alone present a huge opportunity. Florida Atlantic in Boca Raton inked a 15-year, $22 million stadium naming-rights deal with Flagler Credit Union in December. It’s not unreasonable to think South Florida, with a stronger football brand than its American Athletic Conference rival FAU, could top that number."

"The rooftop patio above the south-side tower will feature one of the largest bars in college football, measuring 300 feet in total. The open-air space will likely have one of the cheapest premium price points in the stadium with a high vantage point. The space will likely prove useful for the university’s non-football event hosting efforts."
 
Acknowledging we will remain at The Rent for the forseeable future. But checking out the new stadium being built at USF and the excitement it is generating. I sure am jealous. I've said it before. USF plays at an NFL stadium just 10 down the road in the center of Tampa and is still making the investment on campus. That's a Power move.


"An on-campus stadium is bigger than football. While it will have a tremendous impact on the Bulls football program, the stadium will provide a unique, vibrant, shared campus experience that will contribute to the culture, spirit and connectedness of the university, not just during fall football games but throughout the year. It will provide students, staff and faculty a place of their own to gather and share their passion for USF while giving alumni and community members a compelling reason to return and experience the beauty and energy of our ever-evolving campus and students. It will be a place where incredible memories are built across generations, that reminds us why USF is so great and stirs our passion for the university."
Have to wonder how much further drag on progress a new President search and a new AD Search at the same time will cause: Trustees approve updated USF stadium plan, paving the way for full construction to move forward
 
The bottom line is the stadium is in the East Hartford wasteland. Programs fly to CT and all they see are Bradley and Retnschler Field. It's college football. Not abandoned airfield football. The stadiums you mentioned are all nice on-campus stadiums which is a far superior model than ours. That's just the way it is.
The visiting teams like coming to UConn. Bradley, 45 minutes to East Hartford decent stadium. Out and back on plane an hour after the game.

It beats some crazy trips for teams out there.
 
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