UConn watching R Smith transfer case

[UChusky916]

More not-so-good news:

"UConn officials are watching what the NCAA does with Smith's case closely, and, according to a source, aren’t happy that it’s even being broached. A source said that giving Smith a waiver would open the floodgates to allow other players to leave immediately. "

http://espn.go.com/blog/collegebask.../59690/3-point-shot-uconn-watching-smith-case

 

[specialisthusky]

UConn should be watching this closely. It is absurd to think the NCAA would allow this. It sets a precedent they are not going to want to set with this APR ban that is going to affect alot of teams (barring they don't decide they got their man and change the penalty once other teams start complaining as well). Let's see how much they are out for blood against UConn. This would make me sick if they allow it. I wish Roscoe the best, but he better be sitting out this year.

 

[Fishy]

There is zero justification for Smith being granted a waiver and I would be shocked if he received one.

I think UNLV is understandably just taking a shot in the dark.

 

[ZenConn]

As an aside, how and why is AO deemed a "rising senior" in the article?

 

[HooperScooper]

As an aside, how and why is AO deemed a "rising senior" in the article?

Rising senior just means he's going to be a senior this coming season. Which he will be.

 

[vtmikeb]

As an aside, how and why is AO deemed a "rising senior" in the article?

He get's out of bed each morning.

 

[rbny1]

How this plays out will be extremely interesting and will say a lot about the NCAA's integrity (or its lack of same). The NCAA might as well throw out all its rules if it grants Smith a waiver. Selective rules enforcement is a treacherous path for the NCAA.

I still think back to the time when Souleymane Wane was banned for three games because he used the wrong phone while conducting research for a class assignment. The folks at the NCAA have repeatedly shown they are idiots, and unfortunately the Smith case gives them an opportunity to prove the point yet again.

 

[businesslawyer]

I think the real story here is being missed with the justifiable suspicion to the NCAA. The real story is that UNLV knows full well Roscoe isn't getting a waiver. The sad thing is they probably got him to UNLV by selling him on the story that they'd fight with him for this and stand behind him.

Shame on them.

 

[Frank Ivy]

Kids should be allowed to transfer whenever they want for whatever reason they want without penalty of any kind, as if they were regular students.

The 1 year penalty for transferring is self serving for the NCAA and damaging to the players.

 

[upstater]

Kids should be allowed to transfer whenever they want for whatever reason they want without penalty of any kind, as if they were regular students.

The 1 year penalty for transferring is self serving for the NCAA and damaging to the players.

They can transfer as if they were regular students. Roscoe just did!

 

[Kitaman]

Kids should be allowed to transfer whenever they want for whatever reason they want without penalty of any kind, as if they were regular students.

The 1 year penalty for transferring is self serving for the NCAA and damaging to the players.

I agree, the NCAA makes fortunes off of these kids (granted the kid gets over a hundred grand in scholarship funds). Unless the kid is on his way to contributing towards an unacceptable APR number he should be set free. Roscoe did nothing wrong. NCAA should stick to revoking scholarships than punishing innocent kids, especially for offenses that happened while they were not on the team (e.g. Reggie Bush). This would, in effect, punish the school and not the players directly. Of course free will transfers without school controversy is much different.

 

[Waquoit]

There is zero justification for Smith being granted a waiver and I would be shocked if he received one.

Shocked? Really? Nothing the NCAA does shocks me anymore.

 

[Edward Sargent]

There is zero justification for Smith being granted a waiver and I would be shocked if he received one.

I think UNLV is understandably just taking a shot in the dark.

But I equally wouldn't be shocked if they granted it . The NCAA is quite arbitrary in its application of rules while at the same time quite vindictive in its application to to UCONN

 

[Fishy]

They can transfer as if they were regular students. Roscoe just did!

Exactly.

There is no one year 'penalty' in this case...Roscoe is free to head to UNLV right now and continue his education. He can even practice with the team - he simply is not eligible to enter a game until he's been at UNLV for a year. He doesn't lose anything - he's just in neutral in terms of his eligibility for one year. That is a perfectly acceptable result - the NCAA even provides some leeway in unique situations.

Where the train goes off the rails is in situations where one side or the other doesn't behave rationally. The student is entitled to behave irrationally, but the institution should not be - case in point, the Wisconsin situation where Bo Ryan seemingly decided to arbitrarily limit the options for Jarrod Uthoff.

Wisconsin was backed down, but if they weren't, like St. Joe's against O'Brien/UAB, the kid has no option for relief - that is an area that needs to be addressed.

 

[Chief00]

I would not be surprised if they grant the waiver. Agree it is garbage and inconsistent but that's what the NCAA is all about. A bunch of boss pleasing bureaucrats and they don't need to be told in this instance - what decision will please the big boss.

 

[Fishy]

I would not be surprised if they grant the waiver. Agree it is garbage and inconsistent but that's what the NCAA is all about. A bunch of boss pleasing bureaucrats and they don't need to be told in this instance - what decision will please the big boss.

I will buy into your black helicopter/tin foil hat theories on UConn and the NCAA if they grant this waiver...

 

[DogMania]

They can transfer as if they were regular students. Roscoe just did!

Exactly. Other than that idiotic rule where the current program can specify a list of programs that a player cannot transfer to, the NCAA allows them to go wherever they want. If they did not make them sit out a year from playing their sport, you'd have student athletes transferring all over the place, which could give easily give certain programs a competitive advantage.

I'm fine with Rosco being able to go wherever he wants, but since he still has time on the clock to play in the NCAAs, and he feels he's better served by going elsewhere compared to sticking it out at UConn, I have no problem with him having to sit out a year.

Now in the case with AO, he's going into his senior year and since he would lose the chance to play in the post season if he stayed, I don't have a problem with the NCAA granting him a waiver and allowing him to play right away. I'm not crazy about the way he and his father aired their dirt via Twitter and the media.

IMO, as much as we're hurting for bigs, I think it benefits both UConn and Alex that he moves on. For whatever reason, he digressed last year. A change of scenery will do him good. I just hope someone at Mizzu can push the right buttons to elevate his game. I don't know why the UConn staff couldn't. I don't know if it was a matter of Alex not working hard or being teachable, or the staff doing a poor job of developing bigs lately. Seeing few to no bigs lately developing any advanced offensive post moves does make me wonder. Maybe the ones we've had recently simply aren't capable, but I'm not sure that's the case.

 

[Inyatkin]

Kids should be allowed to transfer whenever they want for whatever reason they want without penalty of any kind, as if they were regular students.

The 1 year penalty for transferring is self serving for the NCAA and damaging to the players.

This may be true but it's beside the point. All anyone is asking here is the rule be enforced consistently. "Roscoe wants to play in the postseason" doesn't seem to cut it as one of their acceptable reasons for granting immediate eligibility.
And if he plays next year, we can forget any notion that the NCAA isn't clearly out to get UConn. Right?

 

[CL82]

I will buy into your black helicopter/tin foil hat theories on UConn and the NCAA if they grant this waiver...

Conspiracy Kitty smiles and thinks "oh you will Fishy, you will."

 

[Huskymaniac]

Well, the NCAA already "waived" this requirement once so why not do it again? What was the special circumstance for that other case?

 

[Danzz]

A waiver isn't happening.