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UConn vs. Notre Dame (Match Up Analysis)

Fact: Notre Dame averages 31 foul shots per game. UCONN averages 16 per game.
Add in fouls not resulting in a free throws and UCONN will be hard pressed to weather the storm of fouls. Will they get into Nika's grill stimulating an unfortunate response? She and Lou are a bit prone to foul. Particularly charges and blocking fouls. You know they will be flopping against Lou and Azzi until they foul them out or simply neutralize them with 4 fouls. They are also one of the top three rebounding teams in the country. This will be a trying game without Dorka to help rebound and absorb some of the fouls. This will be a white knuckle game.
Fact: ND are notorious floppers. 31 fouls, Pfffft. In the last game, Paige got fed up with all the flopping and in the second half gave them some of their own medicine, hanging fouls one each of them—Miles Mabry Citron. It was like a warning shot across the bow — “cut the crap, because I can beat you at this game.”
 
Fact: ND are notorious floppers. 31 fouls, Pfffft. In the last game, Paige got fed up with all the flopping and in the second half gave them some of their own medicine, hanging fouls one each of them—Miles Mabry Citron. It was like a warning shot across the bow — “cut the crap, because I can beat you at this game.”
Oops! I didn't realize Paige was playing this Sunday in South Bend. :eek::D Paige is head and shoulders better than any of UCONN's players. Azzi is outstanding but Paige is transcendent.
 
Caitlin shot 9/24, 2/11 from 3. 25 points on 24 shots. Points really only tell half the story.
No matter how she does it, the Huskies don't want Olivia scoring 25. Points pretty much tell the story on the scoreboard.
 
Paige is head and shoulders better than any of UCONN's players. Azzi is outstanding but Paige is transcendent.
I'm pretty sure Azzi would disagree with this assessment... or haven't you seen hundreds of their videos together? :D

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Nika'a job will be to slow Miles down and contain her. This is well within Nika's gameplan. It will be bare knuckles but Nika is up to the task. Well within her wheelhouse!!!!!!!!
 
Since this thread already exist, it saves me the trouble to set it up...however, I feel that even though we should beat Providence by a lot...having this thread before the Providence game is played is in a way a "diss" to their team. But, with four pages of responses I might as well get into the mix no disrespect intended to the Friars.

This game is one that both fan bases tend to mark off on the calendar. ND and UConn have developed a sort of rivalry over the years. It isn't about who has more wins but more about the energy surrounding the game and the intensity at which the game is played. Ms. Diggins, Ms. Lloyd, Ms Turner and others deserve some credit for getting it rolling and after the romantic break-up of the Tennessee and UConn marriage the ND/UConn rivalries took on a life of their own.

This promises to be a close one...I am not sure I would call it a barn burner this early in the season but I am sure this one will have its moments. I expect the back courts of both teams to be dynamic and competitive...much has been said about the Miles/Citron duo and deservedly so. However, the Fudd/Lopez-Senechal back-court is quickly developing into one of the best in the country. Should be interesting to see how this one shakes out (I can only dream about next year's match-up with Paige and Fudd...I know, I know...Paige will get zero minutes in this one but one can only dream). So, here we go...

Kylee Watson vs Aaliyah Edwards - This one should clearly belong to Aaliyah as I see a potential All American season coming from her. I don't see her double-double average as being in jeopardy here. Simple enough if she stays out of foul trouble..she should have a good night in South Bend. Advantage - UConn

Matty Westbeld vs Aubrey Griffin
- While she has started every game and more than likely will start this one Matty's minutes have been inconsistent...she averaged over 20 minutes per game in 4 of the games and averaged 14 minutes in the other two. She may be dealing with an injury and the coaches are managing her time. Aubrey has been a bright spot for the team since returning to the line-up. It was hard to tell what we were going to get with Aubrey given the almost 2 years she was out of the line-up with various injuries. but who can complain about 12.2 and 5.4...given the other players who are on the bench with injuries this has been a God-send. But, her stats only tell a part of the story...her explosiveness to the basket and her crashing the boards, her defensive intensity and the fact that she has added a shooting touch to her game...should be helpful in getting UConn a win. Advantage - UConn

Sonia Citron vs Lou Lopez-Senechal
- Lou ability to score and Citron's relentless attacks on the basket should at least offensively off-set each other...however, Cintron's ability to rebound the basketball I think will have a greater impact on the game from this position. Advantage - Notre Dame

Olivia Miles vs Nika Muhl
- both players have similar height and weight but both bring different skill sets to the game. Olivia is Notre Dame's most impactful player 16 points, 7.5 rebounds, 6.6 assists and 2.8 steals a game mean that Olivia represents the "head of the snake". Nika has gained a reputation as a tough, tenacious player. Her ability to play on-ball defense can be bothersome to many players. However, foul trouble could bring a quick end to that quality. I almost rather Nika didn't have to play Olivia but frankly given Notre Dames height and talent in the other positions almost makes Nika the best person for the job. Can she hold Olivia to below average performance numbers? That could be big...but, Olivia is a proven player and probably will let the game come to her and be able to perform as usual. She is playing in front of the home crowd so I look for a good performance from Olivia. Advantage - Notre Dame

Dara Mabry vs Azzi Fudd - Two sharp shooters but, let's be real here has anyone seen a better 3 ball shooter than Azzi Fudd? And, hasn't Azzi Fudd shown that she is more than a 3 point shooter. Azzi is averaging 25.6 per game against some pretty stiff competition. I think most of us have seen enough Mabrey women over the past decade to be really glad when Dara finally leaves...please tell me there aren't any more of them coming. I think this match-up is interesting but I am going to go with our next All American on this one. Fudd is a star in the making and she will shine bright in this one. Advantage - UConn

Intangibles
- Well this game will be played in South Bend...that won't be helpful. We have seen some "home cooking" in years past but I am taking the high road on this one and expect a clean, hard fought game...hopefully, we will not see any flip-flopping in this one. Notre Dame makes a living in the paint but that is because their guards score a lot in the paint along with their bigs. UConn will need to be on their game with regards to their interior defense. Notre Dame shoots 29 FTs per game to UConn 12.2 per game...this is a very concerning stat. Advantage - Notre Dame

Bench
- Both benches will be shortened in this one. I think both teams will get production out of 7 players with Notre Dame possibly going 8 deep. With that being said...we are fortunate to have Caroline finding her way back to her normal self 14 last game here is to hoping she can build off of that. But, Ebo and KK off the bench will probably give Notre Dame the edge. Slight Advantage - Notre Dame

Coaching
- Niele and her staff are good but, Geno, Chris and the UConn staff are the best... Advantage - UConn

I think UConn wins this one by 7 points: UConn - 79 Notre Dame - 72
 
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Miles and Citron are two of the best guards UConn will face all year. How they do against UConn will determine game outcome, I believe. Hope that Lou has good game shooting, but Caroline needs to continue getting time and scoring points. If Lou and Caroline can outperform Citron, UConn wins 82 - 68.
 
I’m not sure how anyone could fail to give Miles an edge, a substantial one, over Nika. I love Nika but let’s face it, Miles is averaging 16 pts, 7.5 boards, 6.7 assists, 2.8 steals, 3 turnovers with 2.2 fouls. Nika- 4 pts, 3.2 boards, 10.8 assists, 2.8 steals, 3 turnovers, with 2 fouls. Miles shooting percentages are 48, 31, and 80 while Nika shoots 40, 33, and 83. Hopefully, Nika can defend her well enough to even those numbers out some but she’s going to have to watch her fouls (which she has admittedly been doing a great job at) Again, I have faith Nika will leave it all on the court, and find a way to put the clamps on Miles, but she’s certainly not the favorite statistically in that matchup.
Enough already with the individual match up comparisons. Last I looked, basketball was a team game, and not a combo of one-on-ones.
The only comparison between Nika and Myles is they both control the ball and initiate their teams offense. Both are very good at the roles they play for their teams.
 
Well guess what UCONN Fans, our favorite ESPN prognosticator, Charlie Creme is predicting a Notre Dame victory over our UCONN Huskies. (knowing his historical track record, over the years, I am fine with his prediction, as the odds of a UCONN win, now are in our favor, given "Choo Choo Charlie's" pick.

Creme: I should know better than to pick against UConn. No team has impressed me more than the Huskies so far this season. But I am taking Notre Dame to win Sunday. UConn's schedule is just so tough. Eventually, the Huskies are going to have an off night against one of these elite teams, right? As good as they have been against the Texas Longhorns, NC State and Iowa, this game against the Irish will be their first true road game. Finding that extra gear might just be a bit more difficult away from home. And regardless of which team wins, who isn't giddy at the idea of seeing Olivia Miles and Azzi Fudd, the two best young guards in the country, on the same court?
 
UConn will be missing Dorka.
But then Ducharme has a clutch gene.
Will Ayanna be an overall plus or a minus?
It's impossible to predict how the fouls that are called will affect UConn's game & substitutions.
But it often seems that the refs give the home team a slight advantage.
Will more of the fouls called be blocks or charges, and against which team?
Almost time to flip a coin, it could be a nail biter.
 
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We're headed to flop-city. I expect the refs to be particularly gullible in this one.
 
Well guess what UCONN Fans, our favorite ESPN prognosticator, Charlie Creme is predicting a Notre Dame victory over our UCONN Huskies. (knowing his historical track record, over the years, I am fine with his prediction, as the odds of a UCONN win, now are in our favor, given "Choo Choo Charlie's" pick.

Creme: I should know better than to pick against UConn. No team has impressed me more than the Huskies so far this season. But I am taking Notre Dame to win Sunday. UConn's schedule is just so tough. Eventually, the Huskies are going to have an off night against one of these elite teams, right? As good as they have been against the Texas Longhorns, NC State and Iowa, this game against the Irish will be their first true road game. Finding that extra gear might just be a bit more difficult away from home. And regardless of which team wins, who isn't giddy at the idea of seeing Olivia Miles and Azzi Fudd, the two best young guards in the country, on the same court?
The definition of elite is 'prestigious' or 'best of the best'. Charlie needs to get his eyes checked if he thinks ND and these 3 teams are elite. He's throwing 'elite' around like some people throw 'generational' around now. The Stewart UConn teams were elite. These teams aren't even in the rear view mirror.
 
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I will reserve judgement on how concerned I am about the game until ND plays Maryland. They haven't played anyone yet to gage what they have. We know the Irish have good players but until they have been challenged we don't know how effective they are as a team. Maryland may be a test for them so we'll see how they do.

I like this Husky team. They seem to able to take on challenges and not wilt when things aren't going smoothly. I haven't seen any panic or frustration in them yet. They could have easily had a meltdown when they got down to Iowa but they didn't panic and came back to win. I don't think they will wilt against the Irish in South Bend.
 
We know the Irish have good players but until they have been challenged we don't know how effective they are as a team. Maryland may be a test for them so we'll see how they do.
This is exactly right! Good players are not yet a team. Ohio St. torched Louisville last night and a similar question was settled: Louisville has good players, but is not yet a team. I think we'll find out a lot about ND by how they handle MD. If they win by >20, then they may be a team already. MD certainly isn't a team yet. If it's a close game, or if MD wins (lol), then we'll know they're not a team yet either.
 
I’m not sure how anyone could fail to give Miles an edge, a substantial one, over Nika. I love Nika but let’s face it, Miles is averaging 16 pts, 7.5 boards, 6.7 assists, 2.8 steals, 3 turnovers with 2.2 fouls. Nika- 4 pts, 3.2 boards, 10.8 assists, 2.8 steals, 3 turnovers, with 2 fouls. Miles shooting percentages are 48, 31, and 80 while Nika shoots 40, 33, and 83.
Except basketball is not five one on one contests, but my team vs. your team. That‘s why, with all due respect to people who either generate or choose to take these types of analyses seriously, don’t; they are generally meaningless.
Players are given roles on a team to achieve the one and only goal, which is to win. How a player contributes to their team scoring one point more than the opposition is the only “what matters”, period, end of story.
Part of Miles job is to score and there is no doubt she is a good player. Scoring is not part of Muhl‘s role but she is also a good player. Statistics are meaningless without context, in this case, what role does each particular player have for THEIR team.
 
The definition of elite is 'prestigious' or 'best of the best'. Charlie needs to get his eyes checked if he thinks ND and these 3 teams are elite. He's throwing 'elite' around like some people throw 'generational' around now. The Stewart UConn teams were elite. These teams aren't even in the rear view mirror.
If we don't run out of gas (yet to happen), and we shoot lights out, and play in your face defense, and don't get in foul trouble, we win. But make no doubts, ND is the best team we will face. They may have peaked, or not and we are not there yet. I like the thought that we can get better (see Caroline, Awbrey, Yanna) and it would help if the Irish could lose their cools or get selfish with the ball.
 
ND is down 33-32 to MD at halftime. Miles has 2 pts. They're playing pretty good D on MD, but just aren't getting a lot of shots themselves. I think this means it's a mixed report -- both ND and MD are beginning to gel as teams.
 
I’m not sure how anyone could fail to give Miles an edge, a substantial one, over Nika. I love Nika but let’s face it, Miles is averaging 16 pts, 7.5 boards, 6.7 assists, 2.8 steals, 3 turnovers with 2.2 fouls. Nika- 4 pts, 3.2 boards, 10.8 assists, 2.8 steals, 3 turnovers, with 2 fouls. Miles shooting percentages are 48, 31, and 80 while Nika shoots 40, 33, and 83. Hopefully, Nika can defend her well enough to even those numbers out some but she’s going to have to watch her fouls (which she has admittedly been doing a great job at) Again, I have faith Nika will leave it all on the court, and find a way to put the clamps on Miles, but she’s certainly not the favorite statistically in that matchup.
IMO, comparing stats between the two players should be made with the understanding that Miles achievements have been made against substantially weaker opponents compared to Muhl’s. Let’s see how Miles does tonight against Maryland - I believe this is their first game vs a ranked team.
 
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I think Miles is one of the top 2-3 point guards in the country and I love Cintron's game. Mabry is going to have to get hot in this one though for them to win. Uconn should be better but it is an away game. AE probably has another great game.
 
Geno only uses 7 to 8 guys regularly. I’d take our 8 over just about any 8 in the US. Such a fun team to cheer on. Love everyone on this team.
 
Maryland with a win over Notre Dame.
That game was very revealing. If ND plays Ebo and Watson in the front court, they are very strong but painfully slow. If they sit Ebo, then Watson and Westbeld are quicker, but not very strong. Citron is the core of their offense these days, not Watson and not Miles. I think we can run them down. Sellers contained Miles, and she's quick and lanky but very slight.
 
Huskies are tougher than the Irish. Nika will eat against Miles. Contain her. Azzi will go off. Aaliyah and Aubrey will max out. Uconn by 20
 
Uconn needs to continue to run up and down the floor because ND is slow to get back on D. Ebo is not in shape Mabry can't D anyone and Olivia jogs and reach on fast breaks I'm going with a uconn win about 13+
 
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The ND team we will get Sunday isnt this one. We always get the best version of every team. Look at Iowa. They got whipped by NC State yesterday. CK scored every pointl (exaggeration......but only a little.) Martin could have ben blindfolded and still gone 6 for 6 from 3 against us. Last night, missed her first 5. Finished with 5 points. I expect ND to be at the top of their potential.
 
The ND team we will get Sunday isnt this one. We always get the best version of every team. Look at Iowa. They got whipped by NC State yesterday. CK scored every pointl (exaggeration......but only a little.) Martin could have ben blindfolded and still gone 6 for 6 from 3 against us. Last night, missed her first 5. Finished with 5 points. I expect ND to be at the top of their potential.
Your last sentence says it all, no one knows how a team is going to play on a given day but you have to approach every game expecting your opponent will play as well as they possibly can.
 
Character. One of the reasons for UCONN's recruiting successes over the years is that Geno and CD recruit character. When was the last time a UCONN player was ejected? I don't recall one in the last 25+ years although I suppose there might have been.
And it is clear ND does not have Character on its recruiting check list.
 
Kind of OT but...
Sunday's game at the Golden Domers is scheduled for a 3PM "start". Last night I saw an ad for a MBB game on ABC at 1PM. Seeing that I haven't watched a MBB game since the mid 90s, what are the odds that the MBB game will be over by 3PM?
 
Maybe, possibly, Olivia Miles is not the ND Player that we need to focus on and to shut down during Sunday's game, after all? Neither is apparently Dara Mabrey, who is showing that she has apparently lost her 3 Point touch in recent games. It very well may be the Sonia Citron is actually the player that we need to put our efforts out against. I am not saying to put Nika Muhl on her (Nika needs to stay on Olivia Miles), but I would suggest having Aubrey Griffin be the one to stay in front of and in the face of Sonia Citron, all game long.
 
:eek:Caitlin was the leading scorer in the game and scored her season average. How can that being considered as being shut down?
You look at statistics other than simply her point total.

One way would be to look at Clark's shooting % for this game and the season versus those of the rest of her team this game:
FG's:
Clark this season--------47.5%
Clark this game----------37.5%
Rest of Iowa this game--44.2%

3's:
Clark this season---------32.4%
Clark this game----------18.2%
Rest of Iowa this game--44.0%

So, against UConn, did Clark simply have an off night?
Or was she Muhled.........?
 
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