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UConn vs Miami Final Four

I said all year Miami was the best team in the ACC. I honestly thought they were underrated. Most of their losses are close games on the road. GT the only bad one really. @NC State by 2 in OT, @Duke by 2, @Pitt by 3 FSU by 1.

That said, I have confidence in our guys. We've got this. They have seen nothing like this UConn team.
 
The team makeup is very different, but the style of play is very similar in how they get their points. Other than the A/FGM (Miami goes 1v1 a lot more like you said) the offensive numbers are fairly close across the board

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Since we couldn't beat Xavier I find these numbers very sobering and depressing.
 
For the tourney, Miami's top 8 guys are shooting 118-241 (49%) and 33-89 from 3 (37.1%), both just a hair better than their season averages. That's very good.

However, since giving up 56 vs Drake, they've given up more in each successive game: 69. 75, 81.

Pack is their volume 3 pt shooter, and their most accurate. He's hoisted 35 so far in the tourney, making 14, for a nice even 40% clip. Wong is 7-18 and Poplar 5-16. Joseph is their Joey C. He comes in primarily to shoot from deep, and he's 4-10 so far. So whomever we deem as our best perimeter defender should be on Pack. I'd expect them to go into Sanogo to get fouls.

That said, I'd say that given their defense, UConn should be able to get plenty of open looks. If they make 'em, it's a win. If we're cold, could be in for a long night. Miami is averaging 80 pts in the tourney, again, a hair above their season average. If somehow they score 80 on UConn, my feeling is that it will be because UConn is putting up 90.
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Decided to re-watch UT-Miami tonight and came away with a couple thoughts (apologies in advance for the length):
  • Their offense is really impressive. Generally four guys on the court that can create for themselves. Their offense against UT looked like what Arkansas was trying to run against us (ISO and get to the paint), but while we were able to completely sag off Arkansas due to their shooting incompetence, UT had to respect the mid-range and outside threat against Miami.
  • I think we will see a completely different offense than what they showed against UT. They made no effort to establish the three and instead, took advantage of Texas having essentially no defensive presence in the paint. I'm curious to watch an earlier game where they employed a more balanced attack.
  • Wong's ability to create off the bounce is the best we've seen in the tournament. He, and the Miami guards as a whole take the kind of shots you'd generally be happy to give up (a lot of contested mid-range stuff), but seem to make them at a very efficient clip. I think UConn's length will make a big difference there (but also don't expect we'll see nearly the same gameplan).
  • I'm torn on Karaban this game. His defense has been really strong recently, but he's going to give up quickness this game and will have to play flawlessly. I could definitely see some foul trouble and having to go with a four guard lineup for stretches. That said, having him in forces Laranaga to either use their best defender (Miller) on Karaban, or try to have one of the smaller guards D him up (which Karaban will get some great post looks out of).
  • UConn NEEDS to get back on D. They push the pace like crazy, even off makes and several times caught Texas sleeping and got some easy buckets. We did a great job on this against Arkansas and need to keep that going or we're going to get burned by their speed. That's all effort and focus.
  • As impressive as their offense was, their defense was every bit the 100+ ranking they have earned this season. There's no other way to spin it, it was just bad. UT largely ran simple ball screen sets, they ran very little in the way of off ball motion or screens, and yet, UT seemed to have a WIDE OPEN three essentially whenever they wanted. The off-ball defenders just got caught looking at the ball constantly, drifted toward the lane, and then Carr or another Texas guard kicked out for an open look. If they do that against UConn, our shooters are going to feast.
  • UConn should have a sizeable advantage down low. UT didn't really have a back to the basket game going (a few looks from bishop, but more two dribbles and a hook shot), so Omier wasn't really asked to be the primary defender much and with about ten minutes left in the first half he was already gassed (in fairness, the pace was pretty frenetic). This is another area where I'm curious to find another game with him guarding a legit post player, but nothing he showed makes me think he'll be a good matchup for Sanogo's relentless footwork or Clingan's size. If we don't come away with a sizeable rebounding advantage, I would be surprised.
  • Their transition D was also not good. A lot of multiple guys collapsing on the ball handler and no effort to find the shooters. If they play like that against UConn, Jackson and Hawkins/Calcaterra are going to have a field day.
I came away from this cautiously optimistic (though I definitely want to watch some earlier games). UConn's offense is better than Texas' without Disu, so they should be able to run the offense they want and get plenty of good looks. I also think Omier is going to have a long day (or short if he gets into foul trouble) and just genuinely have no idea what they're going to do with Clingan. Their offense is legit though and we could certainly still lose if they're hitting outside shots and our shooters have an off-night, and/or if their driving creates foul trouble for some of the key players. I think their margin of error is MUCH smaller than ours though.

TL;DR we're doomed.
There's been a lot of speculation about "shooting background" issues when playing in these type stadiums and some thoughts that it could be the air currents from the HVAC system that affect the long range shots.
If neither team is hitting 3's it will come down to who can best make mid-range shots, score inside and make free throws. Not sure who that favors but hope our defense seals the deal.
 
Im trying to secure my tickets on third party websites like Stubhub. Does anyone know which is the UConn corner? Would it be number 1, 2, 3 or 4? Or do they no longer assign corners for student sections?
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I said all year Miami was the best team in the ACC. I honestly thought they were underrated. Most of their losses are close games on the road. GT the only bad one really. @NC State by 2 in OT, @Duke by 2, @Pitt by 3 FSU by 1.

That said, I have confidence in our guys. We've got this. They have seen nothing like this UConn team.

You kind of summarized what I said in an earlier post. Miami is a solid team. I think we have a much better team and should pull away late.
 
IMO focusing on defense; UConn has had some trouble defending drives to the rim and people do rightfully point that out, but that is partially because they sell out defending the arc so much. However, I think the teams that really killed UConn were the teams that could pass the ball around and find the open man, much like UConn does. X/Marquette and Creighton are all top 30 assist % teams and overall good passing teams.
This is right. I was worried about the matchup with Miami's guards, but seeing how ISO focused they are has given me a bit more assurance. It's just not the way to beat our D. Basically we'd need to foul them the same way we fouled Providence the first game or just not show up like we did against St John's.
 
That thought makes conventional sense. But that our 7-2 back up center is very fast. He often runs the floor and gets dunks on breaks. And he also stopped two breaks by Arkansas by beating their guards down the floor and clogging the paint. True.
We're going to have our hands full
 
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Not to be petty, but how do offensive rebounds allow you to start fast breaks.
Good catch. I was typing tooo fast. he does what he does with offensive rebounds. He can put it back or even lead the break if he's not being covered directly.
 
Good catch. I was typing tooo fast. he does what he does with offensive rebounds. He can put it back or even lead the break if he's not being covered directly.
Quick question, the only time I've seen you play this season was the last ~12 minutes against Texas and it appeared that you zoned quite a bit on half court defense over the final 4-5 minutes. Are you a zone team or was that unique to the circumstances?
 
Larranaga is a good coach but this whole "he beat UConn at George Mason" is probably the dumbest storyline in what will undoubtedly be a week full of dumb storylines. That '06 team was practically begging to lose from round 1.
It was a home game for George Mason. And then there is the whole Boone/Hilton collision storyline.
 
It was a home game for George Mason. And then there is the whole Boone/Hilton collision storyline.

I don't think the crowd made a difference. George Mason was on a roll and our guys didn't care enough to stop them. It's not the kind of loss you want to be making a bunch of excuses for, considering they could have lost each of their prior 3 games in that tournament too. The only interesting thing to think about is whether they would have woken up and actually played hard when Florida was staring at them in the Final Four.
 
Quick question, the only time I've seen you play this season was the last ~12 minutes against Texas and it appeared that you zoned quite a bit on half court defense over the final 4-5 minutes. Are you a zone team or was that unique to the circumstances?
We're generally sort of man to man with help but i'm pretty sure that we were protecting Omeir in that stretch. We knew we would need him in the last few minutes in a close one.

Expect our guys to challenge your guys and gamble that they can stay in front of them at first. We'll probably front Sonoga at first with a guard providing back support if he drifts out.
 
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This is right. I was worried about the matchup with Miami's guards, but seeing how ISO focused they are has given me a bit more assurance. It's just not the way to beat our D. Basically we'd need to foul them the same way we fouled Providence the first game or just not show up like we did against St John's.
What is your style of defense? How do you expect UConn to attack us?
 
Not to be petty, but how do offensive rebounds allow you to start fast breaks.
Psssh, you are so close to the basket that it’s super easy, barely an inconvenience.
 
What is your style of defense? How do you expect UConn to attack us?
Predominantly man to man with the purpose of chasing shooters off the 3 pt line. UConn will play a zone every now and then but it's usually when the man to man isn't working as effectively.

Attack? you mean offensively? I think UConn will stick with their basic motion offense with lots of curls and cuts in the half court, but push the pace off of defensive rebounds when the opportunity presents itself.

I think UConn will be good to great offensively, well I sure hope so, because Miami's offense scares the hell out of me. I saw that Houston game and Houston has a good defense and they got shredded by Miami's offense.
 
Just play how we’ve been playing. Don’t let any team dictate how we play and get into our sets. Hurley and the staff have masterminded this offense, some of the drawn up plays have been amazing.

Rebound, rebound, rebound. Box out, we have the size advantage. Shoot the ball well, take care, limit sloppiness.

HUSKIES!
 
What is your style of defense? How do you expect UConn to attack us?
We usually play tight man to man, but will occasionally mix in a zone if we're having trouble and need a change-up (only a few times this year). We guard up tight on the perimeter and rely on length/shotblocking of both the man on the ball and helpers for rim protection if we get beat 1v1. We typically stay fairly tight to shooters on penetration to prevent kick-outs, but will dig and recover as needed.

For ball screens/PnR, it depends which big is in the game:

With Sanogo in the game, we hedge ball screens heading towards the middle of the court above the break hard with his man as the screener (or Karaban's). We're excellent in help and rotation and often completely cut off PnR penetration without giving up any advantage. We're very well practiced with the scheme and our guys know their roles well. The ball defender will go over the screen usually (with your personnel, against Arkansas went under). The ball defender will recover and then switch with Sanogo, using their height/length to prevent passing to the roll man while Sanogo retreats (with Jackson/Hawkins generally roving the passing lanes with their athleticism). If you involve a guard as the screener, we'll switch it. We can switch 1-3 reliably as they're all 6'5"-6'6" and can defend guards. We'll similarly switch off ball screens when advantageous to do so. We do occasionally mix up the look and will at times ice, play at the level, or drop with Sanogo as well, depending on matchup or just to confuse the ballhandler.

With Clingan in the game, we usually run drop coverage, as he is not quick or practiced enough to hedge well. The guard defender will do their best to go over the top and get back in front as Clingan slows the penetration. His massive size and length with good-for-his-size mobility allows him to stop penetration and usually also recover to the roll man once the guard gets back into position. Guys shoot very low %'s over him in the lane on mids/floaters. As with Sanogo, at times Clingan will hedge to throw in a different look.

We almost always guard in the post 1v1. Sanogo is a very good 1v1 post defender (especially against power bigs, you can't move him) and Clingan is an elite post defender.

The combination of tight off ball D, sticking to shooters, and preventing PnR penetration means we often give up very few assists and force a lot of 1v1 in undesirable areas (off the dribble 3s or midrange stuff over help). Miami will be able to make some stuff happen 1v1 compared to some teams due to guard talent, but it won't be premium looks. And missing those shots with your guards in the lane is death when our athletic wings rebound and go the other way looking for shooters.
 
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We usually play tight man to man, but will occasionally mix in a zone if we're having trouble and need a change-up (only a few times this year). We guard up tight on the perimeter and rely on length/shotblocking of both the man on the ball and helpers Tor rim protection if we get beat 1v1. We typically stay fairly tight to shooters on penetration to prevent kick-outs, but will dig and recover as needed.

For ball screens/PnR, it depends which big is in the game:

With Sanogo in the game, we hedge ball screens heading towards the middle of the court above the break hard with his man as the screener (or Karaban's). We're excellent in help and rotation and often completely cut off PnR penetration without giving up any advantage. We're very well practiced with the scheme and our guys know their roles well. The ball defender will go over the screen usually (with your personnel, against Arkansas went under). The ball defender will recover and then switch with Sanogo, using their height/length to prevent passing to the roll man while Sanogo retreats (with Jackson/Hawkins generally roving the passing lanes with their athleticism). If you involve a guard as the screener, we'll switch it. We can switch 1-3 reliably as they're all 6'5"-6'6" and can defend guards. We'll similarly switch off ball screens when advantageous to do so. We do occasionally mix up the look and will at times ice, play at the level, or drop with Sanogo as well, depending on matchup or just to confuse the ballhandler.

With Clingan in the game, we usually run drop coverage, as he is not quick or practiced enough to hedge well. The guard defender will do their best to go over the top and get back in front as Clingan slows the penetration. His massive size and length with good-for-his-size mobility allows him to stop penetration and usually also recover to the roll man once the guard gets back into position. Guys shoot very low %'s over him in the lane on mids/floaters. As with Sanogo, at times Clingan will hedge to throw in a different look.

We almost always guard in the post 1v1. Sanogo is a very good 1v1 post defender (especially against power bigs, you can't move him) and Clingan is an elite post defender.

The combination of tight off ball D, sticking to shooters, and preventing PnR penetration means we often give up very few assists and force a lot of 1v1 in undesirable areas (off the dribble 3s or midrange stuff over help). Miami will be able to make some stuff happen 1v1 compared to some teams due to guard talent, but it won't be premium looks. And missing those shots with your guards in the lane is death when our athletic wings rebound and go the other way looking for shooters.
Courtest of @UConnFilmRoom on twitter, these clips show Sanogo hedging and guards switching a PnR, and then also a Clingan drop.

Sanogo Hedge VIdeo that I can't embed
Clingan drops and stuffs Timme.
 
We usually play tight man to man, but will occasionally mix in a zone if we're having trouble and need a change-up (only a few times this year). We guard up tight on the perimeter and rely on length/shotblocking of both the man on the ball and helpers for rim protection if we get beat 1v1. We typically stay fairly tight to shooters on penetration to prevent kick-outs, but will dig and recover as needed.

For ball screens/PnR, it depends which big is in the game:

With Sanogo in the game, we hedge ball screens heading towards the middle of the court above the break hard with his man as the screener (or Karaban's). We're excellent in help and rotation and often completely cut off PnR penetration without giving up any advantage. We're very well practiced with the scheme and our guys know their roles well. The ball defender will go over the screen usually (with your personnel, against Arkansas went under). The ball defender will recover and then switch with Sanogo, using their height/length to prevent passing to the roll man while Sanogo retreats (with Jackson/Hawkins generally roving the passing lanes with their athleticism). If you involve a guard as the screener, we'll switch it. We can switch 1-3 reliably as they're all 6'5"-6'6" and can defend guards. We'll similarly switch off ball screens when advantageous to do so. We do occasionally mix up the look and will at times ice, play at the level, or drop with Sanogo as well, depending on matchup or just to confuse the ballhandler.

With Clingan in the game, we usually run drop coverage, as he is not quick or practiced enough to hedge well. The guard defender will do their best to go over the top and get back in front as Clingan slows the penetration. His massive size and length with good-for-his-size mobility allows him to stop penetration and usually also recover to the roll man once the guard gets back into position. Guys shoot very low %'s over him in the lane on mids/floaters. As with Sanogo, at times Clingan will hedge to throw in a different look.

We almost always guard in the post 1v1. Sanogo is a very good 1v1 post defender (especially against power bigs, you can't move him) and Clingan is an elite post defender.

The combination of tight off ball D, sticking to shooters, and preventing PnR penetration means we often give up very few assists and force a lot of 1v1 in undesirable areas (off the dribble 3s or midrange stuff over help). Miami will be able to make some stuff happen 1v1 compared to some teams due to guard talent, but it won't be premium looks. And missing those shots with your guards in the lane is death when our athletic wings rebound and go the other way looking for shooters.
That is scary.

You know what I think goes into winning at this level that's hard to measure physicality. I can see that UConn is a physical team. Texas said they were surprised that we were as physical as we were because they scrimmage against Houston and were surprised we banged with them on the boards.

Whoever can handle the pressure and the physicality of the tournament will win it.

UConn definitely has the most talent left in the tournament and you guys seem to be doing everything right. I don't see any weaknesses.
 
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