UCONN to No.1 ?
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I don't think there are any more polls until after the national championship game.
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That loss to Tennessee is what will keep us on the 2 line
I forgot about that. I don't see how UCONN is not a No. 1 seed. Charlie Creme doesn't choose. He tries to predict.
Based on selection committee seedings so far, these look like the1 seeds:
1)UCLA
2)Texas
3)USC
4)South Carolina
The #2 seeds are more uncertain.
UCONN will be the 1st #2.
But do LSU & Notre Dame stay as #2 seeds?
Does ACC champ Duke surpass NC State for a #2 seed?
Does Big 12 champ TCU get a #2 seed?
1)UCLA
2)Texas
3)USC
4)South Carolina
The #2 seeds are more uncertain.
UCONN will be the 1st #2.
But do LSU & Notre Dame stay as #2 seeds?
Does ACC champ Duke surpass NC State for a #2 seed?
Does Big 12 champ TCU get a #2 seed?
Notre Dame and NC State helped us from below, but I think we needed the higher rated in each of the two best conferences to win and win big. I knew we were not going to jump over Texas or USC even if they lost, but was hoping the lower rated UCLA and South Carolina if they lost badly were in play, but of course that didn't happen.
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Depends on whether Morrow is able to go. She was wearing a boot before the last game and had to be carried off at one point. If she’s not healthy, LSU is nowhere.
Both Morrow and FJohnson will be available for NCAA.
AM-reaggravated sprained foot
FJ-wear&tear injury on shin.
AM could have returned to game, FJ could have played SEC, but Mulkey held out for precaution. She could even not play them much in rd1 and 2 in Baton Rouge. That would mean their first full games not til 3/29 if necessary.
Still LSU probably falls to #3 seed.
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UConn as the highest two seed will face the weakest #1 which are Texas and USC. These are very favorable matchups for UConn.
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I think we will be #5 overall, but I think there is a smaller gap between 1 and 5 than there is between 5 and 6.
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South Carolina just beat Texas so South Carolina will move up, otherwise your rankings will give us a ridiculous South Carolina vs UConn matchup in the Elite 8. The committee would be crazy to do that.
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IMO, you deserve the 4th 1 seed over Texas.
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1. UCLA - lock for #1 overall
2. South Carolina - lock for #2 overall
3/4 will be USC/Texas, could be in either order. I think Texas has the edge for the #3 spot but who knows what the committee will do.
5. UCONN - lock assuming they win
6. NC State
7. Notre Dame
8. one of Duke/TCU/LSU
9. one of Duke/TCU/LSU
10. one of Duke/TCU/LSU
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For what it's worth, UConn beat the team badly that beat TX twice!
So does that figure in who goes ahead of who?
So does that figure in who goes ahead of who?
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Yes, because that win is probably what's keeping us from being a 3 seed.
Have to evaluate the resumes as a whole. Texas has 14 wins in Quad 1, UConn has 5. Also, UConn lost to a team that probably won't even be in the top 16. Texas's only losses are to teams in the top 8.
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Womens basketball has caught up to mens basketball in respect to the " any given night " factor. When teams are sort of close in ability it become more probable that the lesser team will beat the better one if they are hot or the other team has an off night. The greater the divide in talent the less likely that becomes to the point when the better team can totally suck while the lesser team has a career game and they would still lose. This is where Quatrant rating come in. There is even a large divide between the quatrant one teams.
Just looking at the teams competing for the top four spots we can see the importance of the Quad records. Among those, UConn has only played 8 teams, while other teams have up to 14. Texas, SC and UCLA only have 3 losses playing almost twice as many games against the same caliber teams. UConn also has 3 loses in only 5 games. ND was once part of that equation but they are now relegated to the second teir. We also need to consider that the top teams played the other top team in their own league 3 times so one of the two was bound to end up with 2 loses. That would be UCLA and SC and South C and Texas. It makes sense fot the number one seeds to be UCLA, SC, Texas and South Carolina ( not nec. in that order) UConn could be the top rated 2 seed which would probably put them in Texas's bracket. But you never know with the selection committee where they will seed or place anyone.
Just looking at the teams competing for the top four spots we can see the importance of the Quad records. Among those, UConn has only played 8 teams, while other teams have up to 14. Texas, SC and UCLA only have 3 losses playing almost twice as many games against the same caliber teams. UConn also has 3 loses in only 5 games. ND was once part of that equation but they are now relegated to the second teir. We also need to consider that the top teams played the other top team in their own league 3 times so one of the two was bound to end up with 2 loses. That would be UCLA and SC and South C and Texas. It makes sense fot the number one seeds to be UCLA, SC, Texas and South Carolina ( not nec. in that order) UConn could be the top rated 2 seed which would probably put them in Texas's bracket. But you never know with the selection committee where they will seed or place anyone.
Your point about how the system works is of course correct, but I believe MilfordHusky is also correct that the gap between 1 and 5 is smaller than between 5 and 6. From that perspective the ranking may mean less than the individual match-ups.
Before the conference finals in the SEC and Big10 the weakest 1's would have been just the opposite, namely South Carolina and UCLA. So if we wind up playing USC who we lost to at home, it is hard for me to consider that an advantage over potentially playing South Carolina who we beat easily on the road.
Texas and UCLA of course we haven't played this year, but both have dominant C's, and for Texas, two of them, so I think at least this year there may not be much difference to #5 which of the top 4 they play, but in reverse it is very important. The first three #1 seeds have a significant advantage over the 4th one who faces Uconn, part of the top 5 with little daylight between them, whereas the others face 6,7 and 8 which are clearly on another tier.
So what. SC lost head to head versus UConn (rather badly I might add). As far as quad 1 goes I guess UConn should be punished severely because a half dozen schools in the BE are not quad 1. I've just about had it with the talk about quad 1. It says absolutely nothing about you. It's all about who you are forced to play.
Am I the only person on the BY who thinks using "quad 1" as a measure of a team's quality is STUPID? If I am the only one, I'll shut my mouth (actually suppress my typing).
If you want to talk about quad 2/3/4 losses, OK that's probably more valid than a quad 1 record. FYI, I don't believe any of the top teams have a quad 2/3/4 loss.
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If you don't want to use quad 1 record, then what do you want to use instead?
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Interesting to see how this thread immediately jumped off the rails. The OP asked a pretty simple question. With #1 TX & #2 USC both losing yesterday would #3 UConn move up to #1 in the POLLS? Subsequently, just about every response misinterpreted that question to be about tournament seeding.
To redirect this discussion back to the OP’s initial question, I don’t know if either the AP or Coaches poll are updated again before the tournament, but assuming that they are, there is certainly a possibility that UConn would rise to #1.
As for the tournament seeding decisions, we can all argue about them in a week when the committee releases the brackets. Just think how much fun that will be if UConn is #1 in the polls but draws a #2 seed in the Big Dance…
To redirect this discussion back to the OP’s initial question, I don’t know if either the AP or Coaches poll are updated again before the tournament, but assuming that they are, there is certainly a possibility that UConn would rise to #1.
As for the tournament seeding decisions, we can all argue about them in a week when the committee releases the brackets. Just think how much fun that will be if UConn is #1 in the polls but draws a #2 seed in the Big Dance…
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