UCONN Player efficiency versus Wichita State
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Excuse me, please. Could you explain what player efficiency is in a very succinct manner without using big words and just plain simple to a very old man? Thank you, very much.
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One of the aspects of the past few games that has been somewhat disappointing is Kyla’s decision making. Her passing, particularly from the high post, has been a strong point. More recently though, she has tried to force passes, leading to a number of turnovers. Even though Kyla has started 7 games in a row, the Huskies are still searching for that 5th starter imo. I suspect Anna will be up to bat again soon.
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While the efficiency stats in BM’s graph don’t necessarily calculate as I understand efficiency, it is usually a simple formula: pts+rbs+ast+stls+bl-missed shots-missed ft’s-turnovers.
@oldude has it about right.
It is a statistical way of measuring a players productivity.
Take for example Irwin (not to pick on her, but) ...
====> 17 minutes on the floor and -2 productivity.
====> IF Griffin (for example) had been given those 17 minutes
====> --- her stats extrapolate to another 8 points + a few more rebounds, steals, etc. etc.
AND, not to pick on Geno, BUT:
He fell into the same trap these past two years.
Year before last (2017-18) he should have given Walker many more minutes to prepare her for significant help minutes in end of year tournaments. Didn't happen - we lost.
Last year (2018-19), it was Ododa's turn. Loads of missed minutes to get her ready. Didn't happen - same result, we lost.
Here's hoping that this year (2019-20) will be different. Griffin needs minutes.
He fell into the same trap these past two years.
Year before last (2017-18) he should have given Walker many more minutes to prepare her for significant help minutes in end of year tournaments. Didn't happen - we lost.
Last year (2018-19), it was Ododa's turn. Loads of missed minutes to get her ready. Didn't happen - same result, we lost.
Here's hoping that this year (2019-20) will be different. Griffin needs minutes.
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A few of the passes, as Uconn was being pressured, I wondered if some of the player (Irwin was one) had vision problems. It appeared they tried to throw the ball through the defender. I know, from experience, sometime you are so determined to make a pass the defender isn't seen. But that happens usually only ONCE.
Ania is a top player with fitting in issues but before the NCAA she will be all we expected. She is strong, a good post defender/rebounder, fanastic passer, and an excellent 3 ball shooter. When her near comfort zone arrives she'll amaze us a bit.
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You have to admit the numbers were pretty, looked nice all lined up that way. Then it took effort to put them all together from the game stats. B for effort at least.
@Bellemare - you give me way too much credit. I just developed a little Java program to mine the data from the ESPN results page, presenting it in the same order as their report and adding the "Efficiency" calculation; then, sorted in descending sequence based on the score. Runs in milliseconds
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You are correct, that is the formula I use (source) although there are many different formula given the same "efficiency" name, maybe we should specify (e.g. "Manley Efficiency")?
I have determined the formula used by OP
pts+reb+ast+stl+blk-missed FG-missed 3FG-turnovers-fouls.
Variation to "Manley Efficiency":
1. added fouls
2. added missed 3FG
3. removed missed FT