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bendm said:
Do you know why Houston is always the 2 or 3 in the south in every projected bracket? Are they essentially locked in there as long as they finish as a top 4 seed? i never understood how that’s fair to the higher seeds. A #1 seed could be “rewarded” by having to play Houston in Houston in the sweet 16.

And if UConn is the last 1 seed why aren’t we paired with Illinois as the first 2 seed?
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Arizona is very likely to be the #1 in the West, so Houston can't go into that region because of conference balance rules. Beyond that, most of the 2s and 3s prefer the Midwest-Chicago (Iowa St, Illinois, Nebraska, Mich St, Purdue, Kansas), East-DC (Florida, Vanderbilt), or West-San Jose (Gonzaga, BYU).

None of the teams' top geographic choice is Houston. Texas Tech is the only team that would, but they're well below Houston in the pecking order. Now the committee still might put a team higher on the S-curve than Houston into the South as their 2nd choice if Midwest is taken, but if location is similar between Houston and that team's 3rd choice, they might just put Houston in the South to minimize total travel anyways, especially if it's better for the bracket integrity. So there's a lot of scenarios where Houston ends up in Houston by default essentially.

Best chance for them not to end up there is probably if Iowa St finished ahead of them on S-Curve on the same seedline but behind someone like Illinois or Purdue who pick Chicago first.
 
bendm said:
Do you know why Houston is always the 2 or 3 in the south in every projected bracket? Are they essentially locked in there as long as they finish as a top 4 seed? i never understood how that’s fair to the higher seeds. A #1 seed could be “rewarded” by having to play Houston in Houston in the sweet 16.

And if UConn is the last 1 seed why aren’t we paired with Illinois as the first 2 seed?
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aside from protecting the overall #1, and some conference stuff, the top 2 seed lines are always done by location. overall #1 goes to their preference, overall #2 goes to their preference (of remaining available)....down to overall #8. Then the 3 and 4 seeds are done with a bit more of overall bracket balance in mind...the sum of the overall seeds of the top 4 in each bracket must be within some range. However that range is so wide as to be meaningless.

In the end, you can assume that geography/location is the more important factor.
 
I’d rather UConn a 2 seed in the east than a 1 in the south (unless Houston is not in the south). That being said I am 99% sure the NCAA will put Houston in the south. They even changed the rule for them over the summer. That plus the fact that UH nearly got screwed last year by playing Purdue in Indianapolis in the Sweet Sixteen as the higher seed.
 
Won’t happen - NCAA rules prohibit teams from playing tournament games in a venue they have played more than 3 home games

Final 4 is not but no way once they pick a site for them to bar teams - see Dayton in ‘15

But sneaky Sampson made a deal to give up home court as a regional to the Toyota center 3 miles away so while Houston themselves cannot host they can be super advantaged.

Also Illinois could play at the United Center as well but that is like 100+ miles from campus.
 
UConnTrumbull said:
I’d rather UConn a 2 seed in the east than a 1 in the south (unless Houston is not in the south). That being said I am 99% sure the NCAA will put Houston in the south. They even changed the rule for them over the summer. That plus the fact that UH nearly got screwed last year by playing Purdue in Indianapolis in the Sweet Sixteen as the higher seed.
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I don't feel like Houston is one of those programs that has a major following, like a B10 school. This is not the Houston teams of the past defensively. I actually don't mind how we matchup.
 
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Top 25 And 1: UConn's NCAA Tournament seeding could be hurt by weak Big East schedule

The Huskies are 22-1 but only have five wins vs. Quadrant 1 opponents so far this season
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On Tuesday's episode of the Eye On College Basketball Podcast that we did on CBS Sports Network, Matt Norlander and I settled into a conversation about UConn and its body of work to date. Simply put, I'm higher on it than he is. To be clear, we both think the Huskies would be a No. 1 seed if the NCAA Tournament started today. But whereas I would have them as the second-highest No. 1 seed, Norlander said he'd have them lower, in part because UConn's 22-1 record only features five Quadrant 1 victories. Arizona and Duke have nine. Michigan has eight.
And if somebody wants to use those facts to argue against the Huskies, fine. The CBS Sports Bracketology model has UConn as a No. 2 seed, but needless to say, this is all subjective. But it should also be pointed out that none of this is UConn's fault as much as it's a commentary on the Big East.
The Huskies are 5-1 in Q1 games. But did you realize they had four way back on Dec. 9 thanks to a non-league strength of schedule that rated top 25 nationally? And did you realize they haven't played a single game against a currently ranked team since then? That's UConn's problem -- the underwhelming Big East.
St. John's is the only Big East team besides UConn currently ranked, there are no other Big East teams in the top 30 of the NET, and more than half of the conference is ranked outside of the top 75. Consequently, UConn has had just one Q1 opportunity so far in league play -- last month's game at Seton Hall. The Huskies defeated the Pirates 69-64. UConn is projected to have just four more games vs. Q1 opponents before next month's Big East Tournament. Bottom line, UConn is 22-1, undefeated when not missing two starters, and a clear contender to win a national championship for what would be the third time in a four-year span. So I've decided to respect those things rather than get caught up on how the Big East barely provides Q1 chances for the Huskies, and that's why UConn remains No. 2 in Wednesday morning's updated CBS Sports Top 25 And 1 daily college basketball rankings following Tuesday night's 92-60 victory over Xavier that extended their winning streak to 18 games.
 
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bendm said:
www.cbssports.com

Top 25 And 1: UConn's NCAA Tournament seeding could be hurt by weak Big East schedule

The Huskies are 22-1 but only have five wins vs. Quadrant 1 opponents so far this season
www.cbssports.com www.cbssports.com
On Tuesday's episode of the Eye On College Basketball Podcast that we did on CBS Sports Network, Matt Norlander and I settled into a conversation about UConn and its body of work to date. Simply put, I'm higher on it than he is. To be clear, we both think the Huskies would be a No. 1 seed if the NCAA Tournament started today. But whereas I would have them as the second-highest No. 1 seed, Norlander said he'd have them lower, in part because UConn's 22-1 record only features five Quadrant 1 victories. Arizona and Duke have nine. Michigan has eight.
And if somebody wants to use those facts to argue against the Huskies, fine. The CBS Sports Bracketology model has UConn as a No. 2 seed, but needless to say, this is all subjective. But it should also be pointed out that none of this is UConn's fault as much as it's a commentary on the Big East.
The Huskies are 5-1 in Q1 games. But did you realize they had four way back on Dec. 9 thanks to a non-league strength of schedule that rated top 25 nationally? And did you realize they haven't played a single game against a currently ranked team since then? That's UConn's problem -- the underwhelming Big East.
St. John's is the only Big East team besides UConn currently ranked, there are no other Big East teams in the top 30 of the NET, and more than half of the conference is ranked outside of the top 75. Consequently, UConn has had just one Q1 opportunity so far in league play -- last month's game at Seton Hall. The Huskies defeated the Pirates 69-64. UConn is projected to have just four more games vs. Q1 opponents before next month's Big East Tournament. Bottom line, UConn is 22-1, undefeated when not missing two starters, and a clear contender to win a national championship for what would be the third time in a four-year span. So I've decided to respect those things rather than get caught up on how the Big East barely provides Q1 chances for the Huskies, and that's why UConn remains No. 2 in Wednesday morning's updated CBS Sports Top 25 And 1 daily college basketball rankings following Tuesday night's 92-60 victory over Xavier that extended their winning streak to 18 games.
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You better duck before a certain poster on here tries to take your head off for posting this! 😀
 
Not worried as we get 3 more plus BE tourney to play Q1.

Meanwhile B12 will beat up on each other and Duke or Michigan has to lose at least one game.
 
This morning Creighton is back to 75 in the NET, which means we currently have 6 Q1 wins. Need them to stay within the Top 75. Also, Villanova is currently 33 in the NET. If they can get within the Top 30, that will add another Q1 victory.
 
BFieldHusky said:
This morning Creighton is back to 75 in the NET, which means we currently have 6 Q1 wins. Need them to stay within the Top 75. Also, Villanova is currently 33 in the NET. If they can get within the Top 30, that will add another Q1 victory.
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Not a criticism of you, just this dumb system. We beat Creighton and Villanova. Where they end up on some ranking is not up to us. The fact that something like that could determine a one vs. two seed (and it could) is insane
 
RuffRuff said:
Who said he's a problem? You don't have to be so defensive to everything. His reaching an upside only helps our chances to feel like an NC fav. If you look ahead of us, there are some formidable front courts. AZ has a kid at center that is now getting mocked first round, along with Peat. UM is UM. Duke has Boozer & Ngongba. Tarris needs to be clicking for us once we get into the real action. Illinois rebounds the cr@p out of it.
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"So few good centers in the BE that Tarris should easily be 18/10 in his sleep." Since Tarris is playing while awake and averaging14/8 which is 20% or more below what a sleeping Tarris should easily get I'd say you were calling him problem.
 
Inyatkin said:
Not a criticism of you, just this dumb system. We beat Creighton and Villanova. Where they end up on some ranking is not up to us. The fact that something like that could determine a one vs. two seed (and it could) is insane
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The quads are involved in the discussions to some degree, but we don't know how much. The actual resume metrics, like WAB and SOR, don't have artificial cliffs, so they are more accurate. We can only hope they are more relevant to the discussions than the quads themselves.
 
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