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Message: [QUOTE="champs99and04, post: 2159512, member: 488"] I appear to be in the vast minority on this, but does anybody else think lumping the men's and women's programs together is just about the stupidest thing ever? I'm not talking about just during the bad times. If I have to hear one more word about "dual championships" I'm going to start beating my cat. Want to write an article about the state of the program? Fine. Just stop with this pretense that the women's program somehow has anything to do with it. It doesn't. What they've done is obviously amazing, amazing to the point that people compete for new ways to pat themselves on the back over praising them. But they're separate. Geno winning a bunch of championships doesn't impact Ollie or Calhoun any more than the softball team winning championships would. If you're a journalist have the balls to make a real comparison and stop with this low hanging fruit stuff. [/QUOTE]