Uconn Kansas Home and Home Announced | Page 3 | The Boneyard

Uconn Kansas Home and Home Announced

Jetskies said:
hi - football fan mostly, but also casual bball fan. so, pardon my ignorance in advance:

this OOC schedule looks like an absolute death sentence, at first glance.
coming out of the tournament last year where we derailed our season, I wouldn't have thought an OOC would look like this.
Can someone help me understand the full benefits of setting this up?
besides high ratings, of course.
it is an exciting list of names, but it just seems like a lot of risk of the season going off the rails, before Big East play.

thoughts?
Expand ...
The answer is money. Bringing in more revenue means more money to share with the players. With the end goal of UConn can try to bring in better players and winning more games.
 
StllH8L8ner said:
Think Rash had a good game didn’t he?
Expand ...
Yes Rash had 22 and Rip had 21. Sam “scores in bunches” Funhes even made an appearance. Kansas was loaded with Pierce, LaFrentz, Vaughn and Pollard. Jerod Haase had 10 and Billy Thomas had 11.

I didn’t remember all the details but I was there and the environment was great. A coworker was visiting from San Francisco and was impressed as well.



 
Last edited:
Viet Vet said:
The tournament “derailed our season”? You do realize we lost to National Champion Florida by two, the same margin as runner-up Houston.
Expand ...
apologies, i forgot what the name of the tournament was. I was referring to maui, not the NCAA tournament. We had a good season after that, by most standards... except our own.
 
HCCForever said:
Yes Rash had 22 and Rip had 21. Sam “scores in bunches” Funhes even made an appearance. Kansas was loaded with Pierce, LaFrentz, Vaughn and Pollard. Jerod Haase had 10 and Billy Thomas had 11.

I didn’t remember all the details but I was there and the environment was great. A coworker was visiting from San Francisco and was impressed as well.



Expand ...
I was at that game. Civic Center was electric.
 
Question about this non con sched. Predictions? I hope it’s not painful and we survive it. Hurley must be very upbeat about this team.
 
Pluses or minuses to playing these games goes out the window for me because playing these teams just elevates our national exposure and weakens the perception of some that we are merely a “mid-major” school in a mid major conference. And dang it the season will be so exciting!!! Losing three last year in Hawaii was devastating and hard to stomach as all three of those teams were inferior to us, but losing to a legit program will hurt us fans more than it will the team.

I will also add that Duke has always had a cupcake OOC and the ACC has become a lame conference. The ACC realizes the issue and they are trying to reduce conference games to do just what UConn is doing. So I have to say UConn has it right. Recruits hopefully will see that as well.
 
.-.
HuskyV said:


Proof that Connecticut had superior home brew & pizza in 1929.

Bud: Angelina can do you think I ehh, can have a some nice home brew?
Angelina: Mister you drink. You're gonna get sick. Let me bring you some good. Would you like something to eat? My momma is making pizza in the kitchen. Would you like some pizza?
Bud: What is pizza?
Angelina: You don't know what pizza is? Where are you from?
Bud: From Kansas.
Angelina: Kansas? Where is that?
Bud:

Better pizzza, IPA & hoop. What else is there?
Expand ...

Not many people in the USA knew what pizza was in the 1920s.

Even in New Haven, when they wanted to hire, the wanted ads read: "We are training Tomato Pie Makers." If you wanted to buy an oven in the trade mags, you'd be looking for a Tomato Pie oven. After WW2, the GIs returning from Italy had learned all about pizza, and suddenly the word pizza replaced "Tomato Pie."

Don't ask me how I know these things.
 
Last edited:
DW1361 said:
Pluses or minuses to playing these games goes out the window for me because playing these teams just elevates our national exposure and weakens the perception of some that we are merely a “mid-major” school in a mid major conference.
Expand ...
"Mid-major" school? Are we still in the 1990s? Most people consider UConn a blue blood now. So is there anyone still out there that perceives UConn as a mid-major? Perceptions running the gamut from mid-major to blue blood is hard to believe.
 
HooperScooper said:
"Mid-major" school? Are we still in the 1990s? Most people consider UConn a blue blood now. So is there anyone still out there that perceives UConn as a mid-major? Perceptions running the gamut from mid-major to blue blood is hard to believe.
Expand ...
Ya, I was referring to the thread in the FB Forum. The argument in part was that it referred to FB and Baseball not basketball, but do you really think we are respected as one of the guys by all? I still don’t believe that on a national level we get the respect we deserve. That is my perception, but I can’t give you examples to back it up so go ahead and attack me for that.

We are doing well recruiting, but should we be recruiting better? I think we are on our way after two straight titles but look at how many were quick to criticize our conference, our coach, and our current “decline” even after we took Florida to the end (and except for a couple miscues should have beat them). We know we are not mid major and that is why I stated it with quotation marks, but don’t you think it is a constant battle to maintain where we are? Don’t you think we have to keep on playing a challenging schedule to prove we are deserving? I love where we are now, but I still believe there are a lot out there that don’t believe or will admit the truth we know to be true. I love we have Kansas scheduled.
 
I am extremely happy with our schedule for the second year in a row. The AD is finally getting it (winning two national championships in a row helps). My final request would be if one of our five final OOC games is against Yale. It is a Quad 3 game at home that we will win that is good for the state. If the other four games are Coppin State, New Haven, Stonehill, and New Hampshire then so be it.
 
.-.
Lafayette said:
I recall a Kansas H&H back in the 90s.... our home was at HCC or Gampel (forgot which) and we had Rip maybe was a freshman but held our own vs #1 Kansas for a half while the ladies demolished Kansas away.
Expand ...
Freshman Jake held his own against Pollard. Tough team
 
DW1361 said:
Ya, I was referring to the thread in the FB Forum. The argument in part was that it referred to FB and Baseball not basketball, but do you really think we are respected as one of the guys by all? I still don’t believe that on a national level we get the respect we deserve. That is my perception, but I can’t give you examples to back it up so go ahead and attack me for that.

We are doing well recruiting, but should we be recruiting better? I think we are on our way after two straight titles but look at how many were quick to criticize our conference, our coach, and our current “decline” even after we took Florida to the end (and except for a couple miscues should have beat them). We know we are not mid major and that is why I stated it with quotation marks, but don’t you think it is a constant battle to maintain where we are? Don’t you think we have to keep on playing a challenging schedule to prove we are deserving? I love where we are now, but I still believe there are a lot out there that don’t believe or will admit the truth we know to be true. I love we have Kansas scheduled.
Expand ...
I was talking about men's basketball. That's what I care about the most. I wasn't aware you were talking about other sports. Sure it would be great if we had big time football and the baseball team was in a big time conference but as long as men's basketball is great and competing for national championships then I'm happy.
 
Jetskies said:
hi - football fan mostly, but also casual bball fan. so, pardon my ignorance in advance:

this OOC schedule looks like an absolute death sentence, at first glance.
coming out of the tournament last year where we derailed our season, I wouldn't have thought an OOC would look like this.
Can someone help me understand the full benefits of setting this up?
besides high ratings, of course.
it is an exciting list of names, but it just seems like a lot of risk of the season going off the rails, before Big East play.

thoughts?
Expand ...
Aside from the person who said money (which is the correct answer), it's actually not as difficult as it looks because we've rigged it masterfully.

5 of the 6 games are Storrs/Hartford, Storrs North, and Storrs South. The 2 home games are against good teams but teams ranked behind us in the pre-season. The neutral games the opposing teams are traveling 1,000, 2,175, and 830 miles and we're traveling 141, 141, and 84 miles. 4 of the teams are coming across time zones while we don't change.

Despite the gauntlet, there's a good chance we're favored in 5 of the 6 of these games (depending on the results once the year starts). And yeah, we'll probably lose the Kansas game... though they are going to be very inexperienced this year so maybe we can even steal that one.
 
auror said:
Aside from the person who said money (which is the correct answer), it's actually not as difficult as it looks because we've rigged it masterfully.

5 of the 6 games are Storrs/Hartford, Storrs North, and Storrs South. The 2 home games are against good teams but teams ranked behind us in the pre-season. The neutral games the opposing teams are traveling 1,000, 2,175, and 830 miles and we're traveling 141, 141, and 84 miles. 4 of the teams are coming across time zones while we don't change.

Despite the gauntlet, there's a good chance we're favored in 5 of the 6 of these games (depending on the results once the year starts). And yeah, we'll probably lose the Kansas game... though they are going to be very inexperienced this year so maybe we can even steal that one.
Expand ...
and as hurley said the games arent back to back to back. there is time to make adjustments and practice in between regular season games unlike an MTE.
 
He seems to be taking a page from Geno. When the conference is bad we need to schedule the heavy hitters. Playing good teams will only help us to stay fresh. After a couple weak teams in a row we lose our edge.
 
Last edited:
FfldCntyFan said:
I believe it was the off week between the conference championship games and the Super Bowl.

We played them in a double header (women's team destroy the lady Jayhawks) at Kemper in KC. The return was two seasons later in Hartford and yes, that was the first game after Kirk and Ricky were suspended (Kirk for the season).
Expand ...
Yes it was Jan 1995, I was there. First ever men’s and women’s doubleheader. Women played first and won. #2 Huskies played like #8 Jayhawks and got smoked! It was never close, think we lost by almost 30! I think we had like a 12 game winning streak going in to that game. It sucked!!
 
.-.
Gurleyman said:
That was the first game after Ricky Moore and Kirk King were suspended. We played Rip at point guard and he had 24 points and 8 assists. If I remember right, we jumped out to a big lead (maybe 22-7 or so) and crowd was going bonkers, but once Kansas fought back in it, we didn’t have enough big game moxie. Yet. A couple years later, we were well-moxied.
Expand ...
IIRC Billy Thomas hit a few threes late to swing the momentum back to KU.
 
Jetskies said:
hi - football fan mostly, but also casual bball fan. so, pardon my ignorance in advance:

this OOC schedule looks like an absolute death sentence, at first glance.
coming out of the tournament last year where we derailed our season, I wouldn't have thought an OOC would look like this.
Can someone help me understand the full benefits of setting this up?
besides high ratings, of course.
it is an exciting list of names, but it just seems like a lot of risk of the season going off the rails, before Big East play.

thoughts?
Expand ...
Last season was derailed by injuries and by losses to unranked teams like Seton Hall, Villanova, Memphis, Colorado, and Dayton. The NCAA committee doesn't typically penalize you for challenging yourself out of conference against, conceivably, ranked teams.
 
HuskyHawk said:
My comment about the last KU game was focused on UConn fans showing up, going out in Lawrence and making an impression. I think we knocked it out of the park. That's got to be part of what the Big XII is considering in whether UConn is a fit. Will they show up?

Still a question in Stillwater, Ames, Manhattan, Waco etc.
Expand ...

It absolutely is not part of the consideration.
 
zls44 said:
It absolutely is not part of the consideration.
Expand ...
I guarantee it was part of the consideration of KU agreeing to the home and home.
 
Waquoit said:
How so?
Expand ...
KU values opponents that pack the gym, including with visiting fans of the other team. It's part of the experience. Marquette isn't getting this series.

I am confident it's a factor for the Big XII in considering schools. The main one? Of course not. But UConn showing up in far flung places is a positive. The old Big 8 schools know they'll travel to each other. Same with the SWC schools and some crossover with OSU and KU/K State. Arizona/Utah/Colorado sure. And Colorado/Kansas schools too. UConn is pretty far, even from WVU and Cinci, so I think we're a question mark. The more we answer that yes, UConn fans will be in Lawrence and in Tuscon next year (maybe Provo in the future?) the more we reduce the fears about UConn not fitting in.

I know this may seem odd, but these are football schools. Road visitors is important to college football atmosphere. Basketball is just a test case for that.
 
.-.
HuskyHawk said:
KU values opponents that pack the gym, including with visiting fans of the other team. It's part of the experience. Marquette isn't getting this series.

I am confident it's a factor for the Big XII in considering schools. The main one? Of course not. But UConn showing up in far flung places is a positive. The old Big 8 schools know they'll travel to each other. Same with the SWC schools and some crossover with OSU and KU/K State. Arizona/Utah/Colorado sure. And Colorado/Kansas schools too. UConn is pretty far, even from WVU and Cinci, so I think we're a question mark. The more we answer that yes, UConn fans will be in Lawrence and in Tuscon next year (maybe Provo in the future?) the more we reduce the fears about UConn not fitting in.

I know this may seem odd, but these are football schools. Road visitors is important to college football atmosphere. Basketball is just a test case for that.
Expand ...
We have a home and home with them because UConn is the best program in the country.

The games benefit both schools.
 
superjohn said:
We have a home and home with them because UConn is the best program in the country.

The games benefit both schools.
Expand ...
And we were among the best programs for a long time and yet didn't have home and homes except that one in the 90s.
 
Jetskies said:
hi - football fan mostly, but also casual bball fan. so, pardon my ignorance in advance:

this OOC schedule looks like an absolute death sentence, at first glance.
coming out of the tournament last year where we derailed our season, I wouldn't have thought an OOC would look like this.
Can someone help me understand the full benefits of setting this up?
besides high ratings, of course.
it is an exciting list of names, but it just seems like a lot of risk of the season going off the rails, before Big East play.

thoughts?
Expand ...
The pros:
  • If we win most of these games, we have an extremely strong tournament resume before BE play
  • National visibility and money
  • Stronger competition = find your strengths and fix your weaknesses earlier in the season
The cons:
  • If we lose most of these games, we are looking at weak metrics and rankings heading into BE play where will be limited opportunities for shiny wins
Obviously you have to win the games. High level teams have to win high level games
 
HuskyHawk said:
And we were among the best programs for a long time and yet didn't have home and homes except that one in the 90s.
Expand ...
Among the best programs and you say we have to schedule this way now because our conference stinks, which I disagree with. Our conference used to be the best in the country so we didn't have to schedule the way we currenty are scheduling. Do I have this right?
 
This is a huge net positive

1. Big home games
2. Big NYC games
3. Big Boston game
4. Big home game coming the following season

and as the AD noted those neutral games namely BYU in Boston and I assume Illinois at MSG are going to come with big pay days.

It's fun to play good teams and not wait until January to get them and will only help metrics.
 
superjohn said:
Among the best programs and you say we have to schedule this way now because our conference stinks, which I disagree with. Our conference used to be the best in the country so we didn't have to schedule the way we currenty are scheduling. Do I have this right?
Expand ...
I am saying two things:

UConn scheduling this aggressively is in part to ensure our overall SOS is strong enough despite the Big East not being as strong as it has in the past. In part, for visibility to recruits and big TV/$ games. In part to ensure our fans have a home/close neutral slate they are excited about.

I'm saying KU scheduling UConn is in part based on our recent success and in part on the strong response UConn fans had in traveling to Lawrence for the last game. Had we not shown up, this series doesn't happen.

Arizona, we've had two prior home and homes, plus tournament games, there's some history there. BYU we've only played once before in the tournament. Football has met twice because BYU was independent. But all three at once? That feels a little bit like a trial run.
 
.-.
You must log in or register to reply here.

Forum statistics

Threads
168,158
Messages
4,555,338
Members
10,440
Latest member
Regan23


Top Bottom