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2023 Recruiting: UConn interest in St. John's David Jones

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Waquoit said:
#3. (was David Jones before the monkee caused him change to his name)
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How fortunate was that. Now you say "Bowie" and he is the guy (Sam not remembered quite as well, despite the knife).
 
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auror said:
Tyrese had a lower usage at RI. He was behind Fatts, and Langevine and about the same usage/shots as Dowtin.

Jones had by far the highest usage on his team and by far even more the most shots taken on the team. He had the highest % of team shots in the entire conference.
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Honestly, this suggests that like Bouknight for us, he was forced to take a lot of shots that he shouldn't have on an offensively challenged team. I don't think he'd play that way at UConn, and would probably get a lot of quality open looks. Could be a really good fit with a strong upside. Replacing some of Jackson's rebounding is a concern.
 
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HuskyHawk said:
Honestly, this suggests that like Bouknight for us, he was forced to take a lot of shots that he shouldn't have on an offensively challenged team. I don't think he'd play that way at UConn, and would probably get a lot of quality open looks. Could be a really good fit with a strong upside. Replacing some of Jackson's rebounding is a concern.
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This is the 2nd year in a row he did it at 2 different schools. So either he's forcing the mantle onto himself intentionally or he's choosing situations where it would be a necessity. Neither would make sense with our current team.

Player efficiency does improve with smaller roles, and Newton did shoot better from 3 for us than at ECU, but Jones has consistently shot 30% with mediocre or worse FT shooting (on smaller than you'd like volume). The problem is that Jones shoots poorly at both the rim and from 3 on high volume at both. He already had pretty ideal shot selection, so it's not like there is a lot of midrange shots or floaters or whatever to reallocate... he just didn't make the good shots. He had a similar allocation of off the dribble 3s as Newton at UConn, so there are only a few more points to be squeezed out of getting him more catch and shoot looks. I don't have data on how contested his shots were usually, but that might be the main way we could help his game.
 
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willie99 said:
And better coaching too

I'm just not a Mike Anderson guy
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neither am I. The Xavier at St. John's game in late December that was televised on Fox Sports 1 without commercials
showed the huddles and the half time strategies being discussed. Sean Miller was great and communicated the strategies very effectively while Mike Anderson had nothing but cheap platitudes and motherisms. I was actually really annoyed with Anderson and wanted to tell him "your players are looking for guidance and you are not giving it to them!".
 
Why would Jones getting a waiver be an issue? His coach got fired. That's an automatic waiver in today's NCAA, even if you've transferred once before like he has.
 
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aburks41 said:
Why would Jones getting a waiver be an issue? His coach got fired. That's an automatic waiver in today's NCAA, even if you've transferred once before like he has.
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The NCAA released a memo earlier this spring saying specifically that it was not an automatic waiver
 
aburks41 said:
Why would Jones getting a waiver be an issue? His coach got fired. That's an automatic waiver in today's NCAA, even if you've transferred once before like he has.
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Who are the players this offseason who have gotten waivers? The fact that this guy has been in the portal for a month now seems like a pretty strong indicator that programs don't believe he can play this year. Now maybe our interest means they have found a way around that, but as auror mentioned, the NCAA straight up said a coaching change does not get you an automatic waiver.
 
auror said:
The NCAA released a memo earlier this spring saying specifically that it was not an automatic waiver
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I don’t know why anyone would believe a word the NCAA says lol
 
aburks41 said:
I don’t know why anyone would believe a word the NCAA says lol
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At this point there is a massive amount of circumstantial evidence that it's difficult to get waivers this year.
 
aburks41 said:
Why would Jones getting a waiver be an issue? His coach got fired. That's an automatic waiver in today's NCAA, even if you've transferred once before like he has.
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Coaching changes ARE NOT an automatic waiver any longer go figure. NCAA that should be one definitely, but then again we think it makes sense to join AAC 2.0
 
gsmooth said:
neither am I. The Xavier at St. John's game in late December that was televised on Fox Sports 1 without commercials
showed the huddles and the half time strategies being discussed. Sean Miller was great and communicated the strategies very effectively while Mike Anderson had nothing but cheap platitudes and motherisms. I was actually really annoyed with Anderson and wanted to tell him "your players are looking for guidance and you are not giving it to them!".
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I think I saw that game and agree about Anderson. All he was saying was "we need to rebound" or "we need to get some fast breaks", whereas Miller was way more detailed.
 
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7774 said:
Who are the players this offseason who have gotten waivers? The fact that this guy has been in the portal for a month now seems like a pretty strong indicator that programs don't believe he can play this year. Now maybe our interest means they have found a way around that, but as auror mentioned, the NCAA straight up said a coaching change does not get you an automatic waiver.
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Jones has a stronger case due to Pitino publicly stating that he essentially asked him to leave. The waiver guidelines state "no participation opportunity at previous institution" as grounds for a second-time transfer to be immediately eligible. It should be pretty easy to argue for Jones
 
Scrutiner said:
I think I saw that game and agree about Anderson. All he was saying was "we need to rebound" or "we need to get some fast breaks", whereas Miller was way more detailed.
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Look how many of the good and great coaches were point guards. They’re the quarterbacks on the floor. John Wooden. Coach K. The Hurleys. Larry Brown. Lenny Wilkens. Miller. Some were exceptional players and some weren’t, but many go on to become really good coaches. I’m glad a certain former Seton Hall point guard is in Storrs.
 
ChickenJoe9 said:
Jones has a stronger case due to Pitino publicly stating that he essentially asked him to leave. The waiver guidelines state "no participation opportunity at previous institution" as grounds for a second-time transfer to be immediately eligible. It should be pretty easy to argue for Jones
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In the updated rules transfers citing lack of opportunity will be denied.

It‘s also pretty obvious schools believe it will be hard for him to get a waiver. I’m not a huge fan of his game, but he‘s way too good a player to be in the portal for a month with minimal activity if he’s going to be able to play in the fall.
 
7774 said:
In the updated rules transfers citing lack of opportunity will be denied.
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What does it say about the coach telling you to get lost?
 
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Waquoit said:
What does it say about the coach telling you to get lost?
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Lack of opportunity is the nice way of saying the coach told you to get lost.

It‘s like in corporate America where they fire people but call it reduction in force so they can pretend they’re not balloon knots.
 
Hey Adrien! said:
Looks like we’re out of David Jones:



At least we’ve got Aaron Jones returning!
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UConn is out? What makes you say that? Is it because UConn isn’t mentioned in the tweet above? Did David make a visit to UConn and will he if he hasn’t yet?
 
The David Jones thing never felt real. Felt like the recruits that list teams in their top 5 that aren't actually recruiting them.
 
TheHorde said:
Look how many of the good and great coaches were point guards. They’re the quarterbacks on the floor. John Wooden. Coach K. The Hurleys. Larry Brown. Lenny Wilkens. Miller. Some were exceptional players and some weren’t, but many go on to become really good coaches. I’m glad a certain former Seton Hall point guard is in Storrs.
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Don't forget Rick Pitino. He was a point guard for UMass-Amherst in the early 1970's.
 
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