UConn in the NBA Jan 2026

[HW611]

Portland average 1.21 points per possession on Clingan spot-ups. The Nuggets average fractionally more than that – 1.28 ppp – on Jokic post-ups. Only one other center (Porzingis) sees his team average better than 1.1 ppp on post-ups, and here's the fun thing: he's always been a high-volume 3-point shooter who only learned how to become an efficient post player later in his career... as he was also shooting a ton of 3s.

I know you'll be impervious to this info and context, but it's useful hard data for the other folks in this thread.

In Porzingis only All Star year (3rd season) he shot a higher % of his field goals from 10-16 feet than from 3. What are you talking about?

 

[Waquoit]

In Porzingis only All Star year (3rd season) he shot a higher % of his field goals from 10-16 feet than from 3. What are you talking about?

Ha! I have to admit when I saw the handle, I assumed you were here to say Cam wasn't that good tonight.

 

[Mr. French]

In season isn’t a time for improving skills. You only have time to maintain the ones you came into the year with.

The offseason is the time for that. And even then, Kobe’s 666 plan involved only two hours of skill work a day.

This is what I mean when I say you all take the side of our guys not being able to get better at something and it’s weird.

The only things you all ever think a player can improve on is shooting 3s. It’s dumb and lazy basketball thinking. Shows you all never played or know what kind of training goes into it at all.

This is not what most people you argue with are thinking or saying. You extrapolate 1 person or 1 sentence into “everyone thinks this CRAZY thing!”

 

[caw]

Rewinding back to Donovan and just going through game logs for the stats.

In October (6 games) he was:

• 18-26 (69%) from two (9/13 of his offensive rebounds)
• 4-17 (23.5%) from three
• 9-10 (90%) from the FT line

In November (13 games) he was:

• 43-71 (60.5%) from two (14/28 on his offensive rebounds)
• 10-38 (26.3%) from three (note he was 4-8 in his last three games of November which would split the season in half and put his hot streak at half the season from three)
• 21-27 (77.8%) from the FT line

In December (11 games) he was:

• 38-58 (65.5%) from two (14/20 on his offensive rebounds)
• 12-23 (52.2%) from three
• 17-38 (48.6%) from the FT line

In January (so far - 3 games) he is:

• 14-19 (73.7%) from two (6/9 on his offensive rebounds)
• 5-12 (41.7%) from three
• 4-8 (50%) from the FT line

One of the main reasons Clingan can't seem to score more is he his FT percentage dipped right when his 3PT% rose. His 2PT% has (on average) been excellent every month so far.

Second, over a 40% of his two point attempts come from offensive rebounds where he is 43/70 on those shot attempts (61%). That leaves just 104 two point attempts outside of ORs. He is 70/104 (67%). Over 33 games so far this year, that is only a hair over 3 attempts per game. From what I've seen the majority of those are dumpoffs, or lobs. He very rarely gets an actual post touch.

His two point percentage really took a hit in November (and was still solid at 60%), but he has been great aside from that from two (64.9%).

In comparison to Duren, who does not take threes, is at 63% from two this year. Zubac, who also does not take threes, is at 60% from two this year. Obviously they both get more touches and some traditional post ones at that, from which you would expect their FG% to dip. But Donovan is doing great from two, especially with no PG for over 2/3rds of the year.

 

[Umami Zen]

Cam the Closer vs Spurs in a 106-105 win. Had last 5 pts to seal the deal.

 

[Drame]

The Grizzlies message board is calling Cam their best player. They are so over Ja. Ja scoring 40 pts doesnt matter when the rest of the team is out of sync and they lose.

 

[REB1094]

The Grizzlies message board is calling Cam their best player. They are so over Ja. Ja scoring 40 pts doesnt matter when the rest of the team is out of sync and they lose.

Crazy stat. In December, Cam averaged 15.9 points per game on 54.8% shooting, 52.4% from three, and 96.6% on FTs. 7.1 assists to 1.9 TO

 

[Waquoit]

The Grizzlies message board is calling Cam their best player. They are so over Ja. Ja scoring 40 pts doesnt matter when the rest of the team is out of sync and they lose.

I'm thinking pretty soon, Ja won't be there.

 

[HW611]

This is not what most people you argue with are thinking or saying. You extrapolate 1 person or 1 sentence into “everyone thinks this CRAZY thing!”

There are for sure a certain group of people on this board that goes into these conversations about what players are capable of doing believing the only developable offensive skill is shooting. And it’s a loud group in the board.

There’s been multiple posters write off DCs ability to be an effective post player in general. But is excited about the chance a 7’ can shoot 3s. It’s so backwards and weird to me.

 

[superjohn]

This is really cool...

 

[StllH8L8ner]

Unfortunately the oddsmakers caught onto the Cam Spencer 15+ points bet so it’s not that juicy anymore.

 

[CardiacAndre7]

This is really cool...

Great press

 

[Samoo]

There are for sure a certain group of people on this board that goes into these conversations about what players are capable of doing believing the only developable offensive skill is shooting. And it’s a loud group in the board.

There is for sure a certain poster on this board that goes into these conversations about what players are capable of doing believing the only correct analysis is his. And it's a loud poster in (sic) the board.

You're loyalty to your own opinion doesn't allow you to entertain another.

You'll likely again ignore the points below as they contradict your opinion, but in case you want to consider them:

Please address:

1. Donovan's outside game in the context of a) the team he is on (i.e. no point guard or other teammate that can effectively feed him in the paint); and, b) what the Blazers need and are asking of him (i.e. run, emphasize movement, and specifically avoid a traditional half-court post-heavy offense).

2. Donovan's 3-point shooting has improved every month this season, so perhaps his work on it wasn't in vain. Perhaps more impressively, minus the 9-game stretch from 10/27-11/14 when he was 2 for 25 from the three, DC is shooting 44.6% from the three. I'm going with 27 games of elite shooting as a better predictor over the 9 games of pure snow near the start of the season.

You might be better served by curtailing your misguided attempt to change the minds of 90% of the board who disagree with you and instead enjoy the thought of Portland (hopefully) soon having a point guard who will unlock DC's pick and roll prowess and continue his climb up the stats board.

 

[Matrim55]

In Porzingis only All Star year (3rd season) he shot a higher % of his field goals from 10-16 feet than from 3. What are you talking about?

1. He took more 3s than post-ups that year.
2. He generated more points per possession on 3s than any other play-type that year.
3. He averaged .96 points per possession on post-ups that year, and 1.28 ppp on post-ups this year, which is all the very definition of "learned how to become an efficient post player later in his career" from my original post.

Again: I know you're impervious to this info, but it's good, hard data for folks who can actually read.

 

[Excalibur]

Someone’s going to throw their back out dragging these goal posts so far across the field.

Dunning-KrugerWarrior611

 

[HW611]

1. He took more 3s than post-ups that year.
2. He generated more points per possession on 3s than any other play-type that year.
3. He averaged .96 points per possession on post-ups that year, and 1.28 ppp on post-ups this year, which is all the very definition of "learned how to become an efficient post player later in his career" from my original post.

Again: I know you're impervious to this info, but it's good, hard data for folks who can actually read.

The raw numbers are in the shooting section. I’m not sure how these advanced numbers come up with this stuff which is why I don’t care for that nonsense that says a DC spot up is almost as valuable as a Jokic post up. If you actually believe that I have a bridge in Brooklyn to sell you.

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Regular raw numbers during Porzingis only All Star year:

26.4% of his shots came from 10-16 feet (career high)
16.5% of his shots came from 16-3P feet (career high)
25.6% of his shots came from 3s (career low)

Funny how his best year came with the shot selection yall analytic PPP nerds strictly forbid.

 

[Matrim55]

26.4% of his shots came from 10-16 feet (career high)
16.5% of his shots came from 16-3P feet (career high)
25.6% of his shots came from 3s (career low)

Funny how his best year came with the shot selection yall analytic PPP nerds strictly forbid.

He shot 43% from 10-16 feet, 42% from 16-3p, and 39.5% from 3-point range. I'm not a 3rd-grade teacher so I can't help explain to you the math of how one of those shots is worth far, far more than the others.

Also the Knicks were 29-53 that year. They sucked . Nobody should value a meaningless all-star appearance over playing actual winning basketball.

Anyway, here's the post-up numbers from the league site from his "all-star" year:

 

[noelle]

DC shooting 3's like steph curry is good actually. but have we moved on from the cam spencer is not smart enough to play point guard discussion?

 

[Samoo]

The raw numbers are in the shooting section. I’m not sure how these advanced numbers come up with this stuff which is why I don’t care for that nonsense that says a DC spot up is almost as valuable as a Jokic post up. If you actually believe that I have a bridge in Brooklyn to sell you.

Are you auditioning to be the poster child for "if it doesn't agree with my preconceived notions then it must be nonsense"?

Regular raw numbers during Porzingis only All Star year:

26.4% of his shots came from 10-16 feet (career high)
16.5% of his shots came from 16-3P feet (career high)
25.6% of his shots came from 3s (career low)

Funny how his best year came with the shot selection yall analytic PPP nerds strictly forbid.

I guess that 31.5% of his shots came from outside the building.

@HW611 - still have addressed any of the points made above. Are they too inconvenient?

 

[HW611]

He shot 43% from 10-16 feet, 42% from 16-3p, and 39.5% from 3-point range. I'm not a 3rd-grade teacher so I can't help explain to you the math of how one of those shots is worth far, far more than the others.

Also the Knicks were 29-53 that year. They sucked . Nobody should value a meaningless all-star appearance over playing actual winning basketball.

Anyway, here's the post-up numbers from the league site from his "all-star" year:

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For as much as yall PPP nerds want basketball to be a math equation so bad yall conveniently turn blind eyes to obvious reasons the numbers would be the way they are, making them flawed.

Basketball is not a damn math equation.

 

[QDOG5]

This thread should be a celebration of how well our guys are doing in the league instead it's a cat fight. Cam Spencer had a fantastic game that he finished off in remarkable fashion and it was barely mentioned.

 

[HW611]

Want to know about how great of a stat PPP is? Check out the league leaders in it.

Players Isolation | Stats | NBA.com

A table featuring isolation information for each player in the league based on selected filters.

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Players Spot Up | Stats | NBA.com

A table featuring spot up information for each player in the league based on selected filters.

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Players Post Up | Stats | NBA.com

A table featuring post up information for each player in the league based on selected filters.

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Names like Bradley Beal and Isaiah Jackson making their way to the top 3 in their categories was especially hilarious.

Nic Claxton is a top 10 iso guy in the league, apparently.

Clingan has a higher PPP on spot ups than Tim Hardaway Jr??

Oh yeah, let’s get him taking 10 threes a game because clearly he’s a specialist.

 

[CardiacAndre7]

Want to know about how great of a stat PPP is? Check out the league leaders in it.

Players Isolation | Stats | NBA.com

A table featuring isolation information for each player in the league based on selected filters.

www.nba.com

Players Spot Up | Stats | NBA.com

A table featuring spot up information for each player in the league based on selected filters.

www.nba.com

Players Post Up | Stats | NBA.com

A table featuring post up information for each player in the league based on selected filters.

www.nba.com

Names like Bradley Beal and Isaiah Jackson making their way to the top 3 in their categories was especially hilarious.

Nic Claxton is a top 10 iso guy in the league, apparently.

Clingan has a higher PPP on spot ups than Tim Hardaway Jr??

Oh yeah, let’s get him taking 10 threes a game because clearly he’s a specialist.

He’s gonna take 3s and make them. Stop being a nuisance and accept it. Enough man.

 

[Palatine]

For as much as yall PPP nerds want basketball to be a math equation so bad yall conveniently turn blind eyes to obvious reasons the numbers would be the way they are, making them flawed.

Basketball is not a damn math equation.

Everything is a math equation. Life is a probably.

 

[superjohn]

Want to know about how great of a stat PPP is? Check out the league leaders in it.

Players Isolation | Stats | NBA.com

A table featuring isolation information for each player in the league based on selected filters.

www.nba.com

Players Spot Up | Stats | NBA.com

A table featuring spot up information for each player in the league based on selected filters.

www.nba.com

Players Post Up | Stats | NBA.com

A table featuring post up information for each player in the league based on selected filters.

www.nba.com

Names like Bradley Beal and Isaiah Jackson making their way to the top 3 in their categories was especially hilarious.

Nic Claxton is a top 10 iso guy in the league, apparently.

Clingan has a higher PPP on spot ups than Tim Hardaway Jr??

Oh yeah, let’s get him taking 10 threes a game because clearly he’s a specialist.

No, Clingan is going to be Jokic. Lolz