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Unfortunately, they have not been able to recruit size. ONO is developing nicely, but she has had issues with picking up early fouls. Of course, she is invariably pulled early by the Wizard of Green Acres, whose substitution pattern is woefully lacking in imagination. ONO is UCONN'S only player with size, and although AG plays bigger because of her athleticism, offensively she just isn't big enough, or creative enough at this early stage in her development, to make an impact.

UCONN was thoroughly dominated in the paint against Oregon, (yes, OU ran great offense, their guards penetrate and everyone passes well) and, OU is big, athletic, and skilled. For UCONN to compete in WCBB today, they need more size.

Recruiting issue?
 
Unfortunately, they have not been able to recruit size. ONO is developing nicely, but she has had issues with picking up early fouls. Of course, she is invariably pulled early by the Wizard of Green Acres, whose substitution pattern is woefully lacking in imagination. ONO is UCONN'S only player with size, and although AG plays bigger because of her athleticism, offensively she just isn't big enough, or creative enough at this early stage in her development, to make an impact.

UCONN was thoroughly dominated in the paint against Oregon, (yes, OU ran great offense, their guards penetrate and everyone passes well) and, OU is big, athletic, and skilled. For UCONN to compete in WCBB today, they need more size.

Recruiting issue?
Sabally isn't just size .. she's a lot more than that, eh?
Besides we have size coming in next year .. and .. the year after .. a moot point...
 
Unfortunately, they have not been able to recruit size. ONO is developing nicely, but she has had issues with picking up early fouls. Of course, she is invariably pulled early by the Wizard of Green Acres, whose substitution pattern is woefully lacking in imagination. ONO is UCONN'S only player with size, and although AG plays bigger because of her athleticism, offensively she just isn't big enough, or creative enough at this early stage in her development, to make an impact.

UCONN was thoroughly dominated in the paint against Oregon, (yes, OU ran great offense, their guards penetrate and everyone passes well) and, OU is big, athletic, and skilled. For UCONN to compete in WCBB today, they need more size.

Recruiting issue?

Are we really doing this again? :confused:
 
Unfortunately, they have not been able to recruit size. ONO is developing nicely, but she has had issues with picking up early fouls. Of course, she is invariably pulled early by the Wizard of Green Acres, whose substitution pattern is woefully lacking in imagination. ONO is UCONN'S only player with size, and although AG plays bigger because of her athleticism, offensively she just isn't big enough, or creative enough at this early stage in her development, to make an impact.

UCONN was thoroughly dominated in the paint against Oregon, (yes, OU ran great offense, their guards penetrate and everyone passes well) and, OU is big, athletic, and skilled. For UCONN to compete in WCBB today, they need more size.

Recruiting issue?

I see what you done there in thread title...another name for "bigs". If I'm reading you correctly, based on highlighted sentence, you want to keep ONO in game until she fouls out?

...and here I thought our recruiting issues were fixed.
 
Unfortunately, they have not been able to recruit size. ONO is developing nicely, but she has had issues with picking up early fouls. Of course, she is invariably pulled early by the Wizard of Green Acres, whose substitution pattern is woefully lacking in imagination. ONO is UCONN'S only player with size, and although AG plays bigger because of her athleticism, offensively she just isn't big enough, or creative enough at this early stage in her development, to make an impact.

UCONN was thoroughly dominated in the paint against Oregon, (yes, OU ran great offense, their guards penetrate and everyone passes well) and, OU is big, athletic, and skilled. For UCONN to compete in WCBB today, they need more size.

Recruiting issue?
:rolleyes:
 
Sabally isn't just size .. she's a lot more than that, eh?
Besides we have size coming in next year .. and .. the year after .. a moot point...
Did I not state that OU was big, athletic, and skilled. Or do you want me to enumerate a list of specific basketball skills. Looks like deflection to me. Perhaps something UCONN fans prefer not to address.
 
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I see what you done there in thread title...another name for "bigs". If I'm reading you correctly, based on highlighted sentence, you want to keep ONO in game until she fouls out?

...and here I thought our recruiting issues were fixed.
Yes. Leave her in the game. Let her learn to play with fouls. I'd rather have her play for 25 to 30 minutes on the front end than see her get pulled late in the first quarter and not return until halfway through the third quarter. Particularly when UCONN doesn't have another player over 6'2". Substituting ONO is driven by a dearth of creative thinking, as well as the usual punitive ego-driven nonsense, and the UCONN'S program's inability to recruit more size. And the problem only moderately improves in the near future; a 6'5" freshman helps, but does not resolve this issue.
 
Unfortunately, they have not been able to recruit size. ONO is developing nicely, but she has had issues with picking up early fouls. Of course, she is invariably pulled early by the Wizard of Green Acres, whose substitution pattern is woefully lacking in imagination. ONO is UCONN'S only player with size, and although AG plays bigger because of her athleticism, offensively she just isn't big enough, or creative enough at this early stage in her development, to make an impact.

UCONN was thoroughly dominated in the paint against Oregon, (yes, OU ran great offense, their guards penetrate and everyone passes well) and, OU is big, athletic, and skilled. For UCONN to compete in WCBB today, they need more size.

Recruiting issue?
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Yes. Leave her in the game. Let her learn to play with fouls. I'd rather have her play for 25 to 30 minutes on the front end than see her get pulled late in the first quarter and not return until halfway through the third quarter. Particularly when UCONN doesn't have another player over 6'2". Substituting ONO is driven by a dearth of creative thinking, as well as the usual punitive ego-driven nonsense, and the UCONN'S program's inability to recruit more size. And the problem only moderately improves in the near future; a 6'5" freshman helps, but does not resolve this issue.
And you are entitled to your opinion no matter what others may think of it/them.
Enuff said.
 
THANK YOU! That has always been a tiny pet peeve. Just like UT and Tenn. UT is Texas. Tennessee is... that gawd awful orange! LOL
Haha thank you for that as well. I was born and raised (and currently live) in Texas, and both are similarly grating to the soul!
 
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Unfortunately, they have not been able to recruit size. ONO is developing nicely, but she has had issues with picking up early fouls. Of course, she is invariably pulled early by the Wizard of Green Acres, whose substitution pattern is woefully lacking in imagination. ONO is UCONN'S only player with size, and although AG plays bigger because of her athleticism, offensively she just isn't big enough, or creative enough at this early stage in her development, to make an impact.

UCONN was thoroughly dominated in the paint against Oregon, (yes, OU ran great offense, their guards penetrate and everyone passes well) and, OU is big, athletic, and skilled. For UCONN to compete in WCBB today, they need more size.

Recruiting issue?

UCONN has plenty of bigs lined up for the next 3 years so the lack of height shouldn't be an issue after this year provided kids develop.

And UCONN recently struggled big time with ONO in the lineup against Tennessee. It wasn't until they sat her in the 2nd half when UCONN went on its big run. Didn't work out as well last night when they pulled her against a much better team but was worth a shot. Hebard was scoring at will against ONO in the first half too so her size wasn't that big of a difference
 
THANK YOU! That has always been a tiny pet peeve. Just like UT and Tenn. UT is Texas. Tennessee is... that gawd awful orange! LOL
Yes, Plebe, thank you for the correction. Details are the essence.
 
I think that too many people have the feeling that as soon as Geno offers a scholarship that the player breaths a sigh of relief and immediately accepts it. El Wrongo Bongo. We are no living in an era where there is Uconn, Tennessee and, perhaps, Stanford or Southern California. While there is a sharp drop off from the top teams, there are more top teams than ever before in Women's NCAA Basketball. I don't really think it's time to replace Geno and, by the way, he has had restaurants in Ct. for the past ten years and they don't appear to have taken that much of his attention from the team. Oh, and if you are looking for just one person who has set the bar for the rest of these teams, according to the coach of the team that just beat us, it's Geno.
 
Yes. Leave her in the game. Let her learn to play with fouls. I'd rather have her play for 25 to 30 minutes on the front end than see her get pulled late in the first quarter and not return until halfway through the third quarter. Particularly when UCONN doesn't have another player over 6'2". Substituting ONO is driven by a dearth of creative thinking, as well as the usual punitive ego-driven nonsense, and the UCONN'S program's inability to recruit more size. And the problem only moderately improves in the near future; a 6'5" freshman helps, but does not resolve this issue.
Did you forget 6'3" (per FIBA basketball) Aaliyah Edwards? She, who plays for the Canadian senior national team. Olivia will have an impressive partner in the post come January, 2021. Think Sabally 6'4" and Hebard 6'3". In case you missed this.
 
What happened to Uconn recruiting for the post-Stewie era? Did players not want to come? Bad luck? The total lack of anyone with size/weight with the exception of Natalie Butler, who was wasted in my opinion.
 
Unfortunately, they have not been able to recruit size. ONO is developing nicely, but she has had issues with picking up early fouls. Of course, she is invariably pulled early by the Wizard of Green Acres, whose substitution pattern is woefully lacking in imagination. ONO is UCONN'S only player with size, and although AG plays bigger because of her athleticism, offensively she just isn't big enough, or creative enough at this early stage in her development, to make an impact.

UCONN was thoroughly dominated in the paint against Oregon, (yes, OU ran great offense, their guards penetrate and everyone passes well) and, OU is big, athletic, and skilled. For UCONN to compete in WCBB today, they need more size.

Recruiting issue?
 
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So sorry to read all the Geno forgot how to recruit, forgot how to substitute, forgot how to coach and the only I coach ever to win the national title 11 times and get to the finals how many. find us a coach who is better, then lets hire him or her. Oh no lets have the fans recruit and coach. Stop it please !
 
Unfortunately, they have not been able to recruit size. ONO is developing nicely, but she has had issues with picking up early fouls. Of course, she is invariably pulled early by the Wizard of Green Acres, whose substitution pattern is woefully lacking in imagination. ONO is UCONN'S only player with size, and although AG plays bigger because of her athleticism, offensively she just isn't big enough, or creative enough at this early stage in her development, to make an impact.

UCONN was thoroughly dominated in the paint against Oregon, (yes, OU ran great offense, their guards penetrate and everyone passes well) and, OU is big, athletic, and skilled. For UCONN to compete in WCBB today, they need more size.

Recruiting issue?

We lost Boston to SC at the last minute apparently. If you put Boston on this years team, we would have a 3-way battle for the title - UConn, Oregon, & Baylor.
 
So sorry to read all the Geno forgot how to recruit, forgot how to substitute, forgot how to coach and the only I coach ever to win the national title 11 times and get to the finals how many. find us a coach who is better, then lets hire him or her. Oh no lets have the fans recruit and coach. Stop it please !

He didn't forget how to recruit, but he did have back-to-back disappointing recruiting classes. He is paying the price this year and possibly next year for the bad current senior and junior classes. It happens.
 
Did you forget 6'3" (per FIBA basketball) Aaliyah Edwards? She, who plays for the Canadian senior national team. Olivia will have an impressive partner in the post come January, 2021. Think Sabally 6'4" and Hebard 6'3". In case you missed this.

You are comparing unproven newbies with big, experienced, broadly skilled Oregon players. Sebally and Hebard didn't become who they are 6 months before their freshman year.

UCONN has lost the recruiting battles (ONO can be really good at times despite limited opportunities at UCONN) and will certainly continue the pattern of bleeding talent through transfers. Why?

Despite all the happy talk about future recruits, UCONN may not recover anytime soon; i.e., realistically contest for a National Championship, if that does remain the standard.
 
You are comparing unproven newbies with big, experienced, broadly skilled Oregon players. Sebally and Hebard didn't become who they are 6 months before their freshman year.

UCONN has lost the recruiting battles (ONO can be really good at times despite limited opportunities at UCONN) and will certainly continue the pattern of bleeding talent through transfers. Why?

Despite all the happy talk about future recruits, UCONN may not recover anytime soon; i.e., realistically contest for a National Championship, if that does remain the standard.

Let’s not give up just yet. Okay?
 
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Yes. Leave her in the game. Let her learn to play with fouls. I'd rather have her play for 25 to 30 minutes on the front end than see her get pulled late in the first quarter and not return until halfway through the third quarter. Particularly when UCONN doesn't have another player over 6'2". Substituting ONO is driven by a dearth of creative thinking, as well as the usual punitive ego-driven nonsense, and the UCONN'S program's inability to recruit more size. And the problem only moderately improves in the near future; a 6'5" freshman helps, but does not resolve this issue.
UConn has not had an inability to recruit more size. They have had an inability to get size to commit. But that is now a thing of the past. They have highly ranked size committed through the next three years.
 
So sorry to read all the Geno forgot how to recruit, forgot how to substitute, forgot how to coach and the only I coach ever to win the national title 11 times and get to the finals how many. find us a coach who is better, then lets hire him or her. Oh no lets have the fans recruit and coach. Stop it please !
So sorry to read all the Geno forgot how to recruit, forgot how to substitute, forgot how to coach and the only I coach ever to win the national title 11 times and get to the finals how many. find us a coach who is better, then lets hire him or her. Oh no lets have the fans recruit and coach. Stop it please !
I share your concerns about Geno, as he has failed miserably in recruiting, retaining talent, player development, as well as gametime coaching adjustments exposing deficiencies at the top of the UCONN Program.

I know the diehard UCONN Women's Basketball fans love to fall back on the THE GREATEST WOMEN'S BASKETBALL COACH EVER trope when someone has the audacity to question the man behind the curtain. I understand. The success of the UCONN program, and the LEGEND OF THE WIZARD OF GREEN ACRES, was built on the backs of Taurasi, Moore, and Stewart. I guess having those three on your team was the product of really good recruiting, but having superstars on your team, who can carry the team on their shoulders and repeatedly win National Championships, doesn't necessarily translate to GREAT BASKETBALL GENIUS. Remember, "we've got Diana and they don't". Yes, you also had Maya and Brianna and they didn't.

Players win championships. UCONN has 11. Coaches coach, and when they don't have superstars on their teams, well, the word ordinary comes to mind.

Having said this, UCONN still may surprise some people in March because they are an incredibly talented team thas hasn't played up to their potential yet.

South Carolina should be interesting.
 
I always thought the issue was that UConn tends to attract more finesse players (most recently Collier & Samuelson). On this years iteration, Williams, ONO, Makurat, and Crystal don’t really seek contact. I thought prior to last night that Oregon was mainly a finesse team....Hence I really wasn’t worried. So this was a bit perplexing.

I think more than just size contributed to the points in the paint. A big portion of it was communication breakdowns. But yes, additional size in the next few years will be a great addition and help with rebounding.
 
UConn has had some pretty big recruiting misses over the last few years as far as post players but you've also had successes (i.e. snatching ONO from SC, which in turn probably lead to SC turning up the heat on Boston and landing her). Recruiting is all about getting what you can get in that moment, sure you have to look ahead to the future but you go into it knowing that what you land in one class may affect what you land in the next.. The days of UConn landing whoever it wants and stocking the bench with top 10 D1 players are mostly gone, in my opinion.. there are just too many options and too many good players now.

The woes in the paint are real, I get it. But it'll be short lived.. you have a strong wing in Aaliyah Edwards on the way and two versatile posts in Deberry and Brady coming in the following years.

Not to mention... you have Paige Bueckers already in the bag and Azzi Fudd will more than likely head that way as well. College is still a guard's game in my opinion and you have one of the best in a long time heading that way next year and another one probably the year after.
 
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