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[upstater]

This Louisville hype is beyond absurd. I've actually heard people touting Ville women's hoops as top 10, and Louisville soccer too! I've heard people say UConn's football facilities are crappy and that Ville is building great new facilities.

All you need to do to understand the extent of UConn's penetration in the market up here is to look at the licensing fees it gets. They are double Louisville's.

 

[upstater]

6. Btw, you're not better in basketball - not historically and certainly not now. You do have three titles to our two, but in every other measurable way, NCAA wins, appearances, attendance - you name it, uconn is behind UofL. And Btw, we're not on probation either.

How's your football team doing with APR?

UConn's titles are recent, not from the stone ages.

 

[SubbaBub]

1. The claim that uconn DELIVERS that TV market is highly questionable bordering on ridiculous.
2. Fan base doesn't translate into actual fans. Check / compare the attendance numbers from football / basketball games between the two schools.
3. Academic ranking means almost nothing in the world of realignment - but feel free to continue to puff out your chest about it.
4. Since 1999 - uconn is 79-79 in football - Louisville is 113-58 - even including the Kragjoke era, this is not even close.
5. If Strong does leave, the Paul Pasqualoni's of the world will not be on our radar screen. Jurich will hire another good coach and we'll continue to be better than uconn.
6. Btw, you're not better in basketball - not historically and certainly not now. You do have three titles to our two, but in every other measurable way, NCAA wins, appearances, attendance - you name it, uconn is behind UofL. And Btw, we're not on probation either.
7. I'll bet half of CBB fans can't name that Kevin Ollie is your current coach.

1. Nate Silver disagrees with you.
2. TV sets and product licensing trump stadium attendance.
3. Every move by the ACC and B1G Presidents disagree with you.
4. You are including FCS transition years to make your point, congrats. To the extent on the field result matter (they don't) we have two BE titles in 7 years. We are good enough on the field.
5. If you ask the folks here, PP.wasn't on our radar either. The guy who hired him got a one way ticket to Hofstra.
6. Any results achieved while wearing Chuck Taylors are irrelevant. In the Espn/64 team NCAA era UL is a nobody compared to UConn. The club is Duke, UNC, UConn, and Kansas. UL doesn't make the probation list.
7.ESPN disagrees with you.

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[upstater]

Were those your seats? Man, no wonder uconn lost millions of dollars on the game - it's fans are cheapskates...

How many paid seats did Oklahoma have for that game, just a 1 state drive away?

 

[BobbyPs Ghost]

The UL athletic department is "head and shoulders" above UConn's in the mind of Louisville fans and a couple columnists. Believe your own hype all you want, but it's not going to change the fact that UL has failed to make a clear case for itself. Check the Big East records. Really the only thing UL has going for it is it has a better HC at this time, which is fueling perception. I would be worried if the ACC was going on perception or branding alone, I feel comfortable that they'll take a wider view of the whole athletic department and university. What's your four-year graduation rate again?

The fact that our football and basketball teams games are ranked (currently 6 or 7 of UofL's sports are ranked in the top 20), are more attended, that the athletic department makes incredible amounts of money, that our fans travel by the thousand to follow the teams, etc, etc, etc. That isn't hype my friend, that's reality. I encourage you to check out what is being said with regard to who the ACC should add - it's not just Louisville people saying it - it's everyone else. While you're at it, check out who the fans of the current ACC programs want, particularly those schools where football is important.

I think that it's 22%. Won't you feel even worse when they pick us anyway?

 

[specialisthusky]

it amazes me this guy is arguing that UConn...UCONN....does not carry the 30th rank DMA in the nation which it plays its bball and football games in. I guess LVilles 50th rank market which has a large precense of UK fans is the better option. Your credibility stops there and all the other BS you are stating is further garbage. Look I am sorry you are desperate. We are getting to that point, but are likely going to be picked up by the ACC unless FSU can convince the conference that because you are decent in football this year you are a better option. Most of Ville's posters are respectable and friendly fans. I'll go out on a limb and say you are acting out due to desperation over this awful conference realignment saga both teams are suffering through. The facts are facts unfortunately, and the ones that have driven the bus thus far in realignment all fall in UConn's favor.

 

[The Funster]

Let ville fan talk. He has less to look forward to than we do. Pitt, Cuse and especially BC fans don't like us because they know they need us. We'll help keep them relevant.

 

[BobbyPs Ghost]

1. Nate Silver disagrees with you.
2. TV sets and product licensing trump stadium attendance.
3. Every move by the ACC and B1G Presidents disagree with you.
4. You are including FCS transition years to make your point, congrats. To the extent on the field result matter (they don't) we have two BE titles in 7 years. We are good enough on the field.
5. If you ask the folks here, PP.wasn't on our radar either. The guy who hired him got a one way ticket to Hofstra.
6. Any results achieved while wearing Chuck Taylors are irrelevant. In the Espn/64 team NCAA era UL is a nobody compared to UConn. The club is Duke, UNC, UConn, and Kansas. UL doesn't make the probation list.
7.ESPN disagrees with you.

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6. Then why is Louisville rated #7 on the list of all time best college basketball programs and uconn is #9?

 

[specialisthusky]

why does uconn have more national championships? Trophy's matter. ESPN lists do not.

 

[BobbyPs Ghost]

it amazes me this guy is arguing that UConn...UCONN....does not carry the 30th rank DMA in the nation which it plays its bball and football games in. I guess LVilles 50th rank market which has a large precense of UK fans is the better option. Your credibility stops there and all the other BS you are stating is further garbage. Look I am sorry you are desperate. We are getting to that point, but are likely going to be picked up by the ACC unless FSU can convince the conference that because you are decent in football this year you are a better option. Most of Ville's posters are respectable and friendly fans. I'll go out on a limb and say you are acting out due to desperation over this awful conference realignment saga both teams are suffering through. The facts are facts unfortunately, and the ones that have driven the bus thus far in realignment all fall in UConn's favor.

Then why isn't anyone else besides uconn people saying it? We're not anymore or less desperate than you. In fact, long term going to the ACC isn't the better move for us - that would be the Big12 - which will certainly happen if uconn is picked by the ACC and FSU walks out the door. I never said the Louisville market was a bigger market than yours, my position is that it is completely new to the ACC. A lot of what you are claiming, the BC people say they already deliver. Is that right? I don't know but, it seems somewhat logical. I feel that I've been respectable and friendly - certainly better than the poster that said UofL fans "deserved to be mocked". uconn might ultimately be the choice but, it is interesting that literally everyone with an opinion (outside of Storrs) thinks UofL is the better choice.

 

[BobbyPs Ghost]

Let ville fan talk. He has less to look forward to than we do. Pitt, Cuse and especially BC fans don't like us because they know they need us. We'll help keep them relevant.

I know that I'm looking forward to the football game tomorrow.

 

[upstater]

Then why isn't anyone else besides uconn people saying it? We're not anymore or less desperate than you. In fact, long term going to the ACC isn't the better move for us - that would be the Big12 - which will certainly happen if uconn is picked by the ACC and FSU walks out the door. I never said the Louisville market was a bigger market than yours, my position is that it is completely new to the ACC. A lot of what you are claiming, the BC people say they already deliver. Is that right? I don't know but, it seems somewhat logical. I feel that I've been respectable and friendly - certainly better than the poster that said UofL fans "deserved to be mocked". uconn might ultimately be the choice but, it is interesting that literally everyone with an opinion (outside of Storrs) thinks UofL is the better choice.

Yeah, BC already delivers the New England market.

That's why the rating for rodeo is higher in Boston than a BC football game.

And if you think we're joking, we're not.

 

[SubbaBub]

6. Then why is Louisville rated #7 on the list of all time best college basketball programs and uconn is #9?

Why do people think Budweiser is a drinkable beer?

That should start an argument.


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[ddminct]

Calling Uconn football is turd program is respectful?

 

[WestCoastHusky]

The fact that our football and basketball teams games are ranked (currently 6 or 7 of UofL's sports are ranked in the top 20), are more attended, that the athletic department makes incredible amounts of money, that our fans travel by the thousand to follow the teams, etc, etc, etc. That isn't hype my friend, that's reality. I encourage you to check out what is being said with regard to who the ACC should add - it's not just Louisville people saying it - it's everyone else. While you're at it, check out who the fans of the current ACC programs want, particularly those schools where football is important.

I think that it's 22%. Won't you feel even worse when they pick us anyway?

Here are some hints:

1. If the ACC wanted a school like yours so bad, they would have added WVU. WVU is far more better football than UL, but where are they today?
2. Why didn't the ACC took WVU? Well, their academics suck. Last I checked, ACC is pretty proud of its top 100 USWR scholl rankings. UL would be the worst school in the ACC and in the B12 if added.
3. TV markets - why do you think RU is in the B1G? Did B1G gives a crap about RU's on field performance?
4. Who was on the ACC's list during the last expansion? UL wasn't even mentioned.
5. Last I checked, you play second fiddle to Kentucky in your own state. You are a city school, not a state flagship. In fact, BE is where you belong because you are with your peers.
6. You are still in Kentucky. Let me repeat, you are still in Kentucky. Let that sink in.

BTW, based on your logic ECU should be the #1 target of many conferences. Who is calling ECU today?

 

[BobbyPs Ghost]

why does uconn have more national championships? Trophy's matter. ESPN lists do not.

I agree with you - trophies matter, and uconn has one more than UofL. Besides, it wasn't an ESPN list - I have no doubt that an ESPN list would have uconn at #1. I was simply rebutting the poster's assertion that "The club is Duke, UNC, UConn, and Kansas", which is simply ridiculous. As much as I cannot stand them, a college basketball list without kentucky isn't a serious one.

 

[BobbyPs Ghost]

Calling Uconn football is turd program is respectful?

You are correct. I take that back.

 

[specialisthusky]

WOW i said you were spewing BS before but to say BC carries New England is so absolutely incorrect you might want to take a day or two before posting here again. BC does not even carry the Boston market. You really think anyone in Connecticut would give two craps about an elitist secular hockey school? Again the 30th DMA in the nation...the largest without a pro sports team...with no competition in the state. BC HAHAHAHA

Keep reading your Lvile agenda driven rumors and stick to your own board. We live in reality over here.

 

[The Funster]

I know that I'm looking forward to the football game tomorrow.

Good for you. Look, coming here and being a dick isn't going to get you anywhere. Just about half of what you stated has been shot down. You have a good AD who made a good call on your FB coach. You have a HoF hoops coach. I happen to like L'ville and I generally like their fans. You, however, can kiss my ass.

 

[BobbyPs Ghost]

Here are some hints:

1. If the ACC wanted a school like yours so bad, they would have added WVU. WVU is far more better football than UL, but where are they today?
2. Why didn't the ACC took WVU? Well, their academics suck. Last I checked, ACC is pretty proud of its top 100 USWR scholl rankings. UL would be the worst school in the ACC and in the B12 if added.
3. TV markets - why do you think RU is in the B1G? Did B1G gives a crap about RU's on field performance?
4. Who was on the ACC's list during the last expansion? UL wasn't even mentioned.
5. Last I checked, you play second fiddle to Kentucky in your own state. You are a city school, not a state flagship. In fact, BE is where you belong because you are with your peers.
6. You are still in Kentucky. Let me repeat, you are still in Kentucky. Let that sink in.

BTW, based on your logic ECU should be the #1 target of many conferences. Who is calling ECU today?

Hmmm...

"WVU is far more better football than UL" & "Why didn't the ACC took WVU? Well, their academics suck. "

Why don't you let the irony of your grammatically challenged statements sink in...

 

[upstater]

Hmmm...

"WVU is far more better football than UL" & "Why didn't the ACC took WVU? Well, their academics suck. "

Why don't you let the irony of your grammatically challenged statements sink in...

Why not go find a floozy and dribble down your leg?

 

[specialisthusky]

Hmmm...

"WVU is far more better football than UL" & "Why didn't the ACC took WVU? Well, their academics suck. "

Why don't you let the irony of your grammatically challenged statements sink in...

It's always a sign of defeat when posters start resorting to grammar arguments.

 

[BobbyPs Ghost]

WOW i said you were spewing BS before but to say BC carries New England is so absolutely incorrect you might want to take a day or two before posting here again. BC does not even carry the Boston market. You really think anyone in Connecticut would give two craps about an elitist secular hockey school? Again the 30th DMA in the nation...the largest without a pro sports team...with no competition in the state. BC HAHAHAHA

Keep reading your Lvile agenda driven rumors and stick to your own board. We live in reality over here.

I think that if you step out of your comfort zone and do a little research, you will find that the reality is that everyone in the ACC wants Louisville. I'm sorry that doesn't line up with your reality but, there it is.

 

[specialisthusky]

I think that if you step out of your comfort zone and do a little research, you will find that the reality is that everyone in the ACC wants Louisville. I'm sorry that doesn't line up with your reality but, there it is.

you mean message board posters?

 

[BobbyPs Ghost]

Good for you. Look, coming here and being a dick isn't going to get you anywhere. Just about half of what you stated has been shot down. You have a good AD who made a good call on your FB coach. You have a HoF hoops coach. I happen to like L'ville and I generally like their fans. You, however, can kiss my ass.

You don't seem very fun to be the Funster...

 

[zls44]

I think that if you step out of your comfort zone and do a little research, you will find that the reality is that everyone in the ACC wants Louisville. I'm sorry that doesn't line up with your reality but, there it is.

Florida State aint everyone, son.

FSU and Clemson want Louisville. VT doesnt really care. Everyone else wants UConn.


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[BobbyPs Ghost]

you mean message board posters?

Yes, like all the ones here...

 

[BobbyPs Ghost]

It's always a sign of defeat when posters start resorting to grammar arguments.

Seriously, you didn't appreciate the wicked irony of those statements? Not as a uconn fan but, as a human being?

 

[mavblues]

Pretty sure both Coach K and Roy Williams were both publicly clamoring for UConn last round...

I guess it's everyone in the ACC except for those two.

 

[storrsroars]

Dear BobbyP:

Regarding your recent arguments...

Louisville vs. UConn from top 50 programs of past 50 years:
1980-89: UL = 3rd, UConn =T204th
1990-99: UL = 23rd, UConn = 5th
2000-present: UL = 19th, UConn = 7th

So yeah, UL might have UConn by two spots in "all-time" but what have you done for me lately?

UL has become decent in men's soccer, currently a 10th seed in the sweet 16 (UConn is a 4 seed).

UL lost in the regionals in men's baseball in 2012, UConn didn't make it. UConn lost in the superregionals in 2011, UL didn't make it. Despite the disadvantages of being a 'cold weather' school, the baseball program is pretty good. Some high draft picks out of here.

Let's not discuss women's hoops.

I have no qualms with UL being considered for the ACC as it's obvious that football money is driving discussions. And UConn made a horrible decision in going with Pasqualoni, which basically set an up-and-coming program back. But when the arguments start becoming specious at best, that's where the line has to be drawn.

And to bring up the freaking Fiesta Bowl? Had UConn got the Orange, things would've been different. But given how the Fiesta was a total ripoff (having to also buy tix to an Insight Bowl game nobody wanted to see), I don't blame anyone for not showing up from either side.