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I was just wondering...What are the outsiders saying now as they did in the past regarding "Recruits will stop flocking to Uconn due to their weak schedule" and the fact they are no longer part of the Big East?

Because as of this year Uconn has beaten Florida St. (Top 10 At One Time), Ohio St. (Top 10), Maryland (#6), ND (#3), Depaul (Top 25), and in February will do battle with South Carolina (#2).

Now yes i understand the conference is nothing to rave about regarding competition. But to say Uconn doesn't play anybody (After They've Won 3 National Titles) have me scratching my head.
 
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Makes me wish that Geno 10 rings commercial played on a national network instead of only on SNY. He's done what no one else has, so you can recruit negatively all you want, but the next closest to Geno active coach has what 2 rings while he has 10? That disparity should speak for itself. It is true though. UConn could make their entire OOC schedule WNBA teams and people would still say they have it easy because they play in the AAC. Like I said in a different thread, some people are just obsessed with their conference, and I'll never understand why.
 
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Makes me wish that Geno 10 rings commercial played on a national network instead of only on SNY. He's done what no one else has, so you can recruit negatively all you want, but the next closest to Geno active coach has what 2 rings while he has 10? That disparity should speak for itself. It is true though. UConn could make their entire OOC schedule WNBA teams and people would still say they have it easy because they play in the AAC. Like I said in a different thread, some people are just obsessed with their conference, and I'll never understand why.


Makes a lot of sense. And thats basically what it is....Individual teams boasting in the strength of their conference (Alone) but not in the strength and capabilities of their teams. With the exception of some teams who have won it all within the last 10 years.

While Uconn could boast on their achievements and greatness as a program scarcely would they attempt to do so. Instead they let their actions, play, and greatness speak for itself.

That's some greatness. The Big East departs and all Uconn does is bring in (4) Narional Titles to a New Conference the Power 5 calls weak. (1) for the Men's Basketball Team & (3) for Women's Basketball with another on the horizon. This because it is easy to attack the conference rather than The Uconn Basketball Program.

As for the other athletic Departments at Uconn or any other team within the AAC. I don't have enough information regarding what other championship may have been won in other sports. Someone else may have additional information in that area.
 
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Makes a lot of sense. And thats basically what it is....Individual teams boasting in the strength of their conference (Alone) but not in the strength and capabilities of their teams. With the exception of some teams who have won it all within the last 10 years.

While Uconn could boast on their achievements and greatness as a program scarcely would they attempt to do so. Instead they let their actions, play, and greatness speak for itself.

That's some greatness. The Big East departs and all Uconn does is bring in (4) Narional Titles to a New Conference the Power 5 calls weak. (1) for the Men's Basketball Team & (3) for Women's Basketball with another on the horizon. This because it is easy to attack the conference rather than The Uconn Basketball Program.

As for the other athletic Departments at Uconn or any other team within the AAC. I don't have enough information regarding what other championship may have been won in other sports. Someone else may have additional information in that area.
We're actually good, strike that, great, in other sports. UConn has one of those Athletic Departments that high profile conferences love to have. For whatever reason UConn is the hot girl going to prom without a date.
 
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We're actually good, strike that, great, in other sports. UConn has one of those Athletic Departments that high profile conferences love to have. For whatever reason UConn is the hot girl going to prom without a date.

Lol...lmbo
 
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Your post got me thinking about the old Big East. That was a great conference and I miss the many competitive games against Rutgers, ND, St. Johns, and even Villanova. Lots of great memories.
 

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"That is the kind of talk other programs use to recruit against UCONN."

Other than message board denizens, who has said that?

"While Uconn could boast on their achievements and greatness as a program scarcely would they attempt to do so."

Watched any UConn WCBB commercials lately? How about Geno and the rings as just one example?
 
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Your post got me thinking about the old Big East. That was a great conference and I miss the many competitive games against Rutgers, ND, St. Johns, and even Villanova. Lots of great memories.

I hated it when the Big East was dismantle. I was so piss beyond words. The best BASKETBALL CONFERENCE PETIOD!
 

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"While Uconn could boast on their achievements and greatness as a program scarcely would they attempt to do so."

Watched any UConn WCBB commercials lately? How about Geno and the rings as just one example?
he said that commercial is only shown locally (tri-state)... can someone find it on YouTube and post it here?
 

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I was just wondering...What are the outsiders saying now as they did in the past regarding "Recruits will stop flocking to Uconn due to their weak schedule" and the fact they are no longer part of the Big East?

This is a perfect example of what I call an internet legend. Someone posts a thought or opinion of dubious veracity (e.g., "UConn plays only cupcakes") and asserts that is a fact. Then others give it extended life by re-posting it over and over while giving it credence normally accorded to Holy Writ.

A recent local internet legend was, "Saniya Chong is a terrible defensive player," as she was the scapegoat for last year's loss to Stanford (actually, it was a team effort). Saniya was thus placed in good company -- even Diana Taurasi was maligned for her perceived defensive shortcomings. Skylar Diggins was persistently discredited (here on the BY) as merely an attractive narcissist. All refs (abetted by clock operators) conspired in unison to throw games Tennessee's way.

All stubborn internet legends.
 

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We're actually good, strike that, great, in other sports. UConn has one of those Athletic Departments that high profile conferences love to have. For whatever reason UConn is the hot girl going to prom without a date.
If you read tweets and quotes by AD's from especially the B10, but probably other conferences too, what Pasqualoni did to the football program is directly responsible for the conference we are in. They say things like "Cinci is a better fit as they have a stronger football history".

If each of the P5 conferences expand to 16, for sure UCONN will have a place. But if the next round only has the B10 expanding by 2, UCONN could be on the outside looking in yet again. And if the raid ends up taking only Cinci and BYU (for example - 2 names I saw bandied about on the realignment board), that would do nothing to open a spot for UCONN somewhere else.

Side note - only one American football team did anything unexpected in the bowl games... and only 2 American teams won...

UCONN lost to Marshall
USF lost to Western Kentucky
#24 Temple lost to unranked Toledo
Cinci was slaughtered by SDSU (San Diego State)
Va Tech beat Tulsa 55-52 (sounds like a hoops score not NCAAF!)
Auburn beat Memphis
#21 Navy beat Pitt
#18 Houston beat #9 Florida State by 14. A really good win for Houston and the American

In time I think the American will actually be a solid football conference. I just don't want to wait around for it to happen...
 

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Makes me wish that Geno 10 rings commercial played on a national network instead of only on SNY. He's done what no one else has, so you can recruit negatively all you want, but the next closest to Geno active coach has what 2 rings while he has 10? That disparity should speak for itself. It is true though. UConn could make their entire OOC schedule WNBA teams and people would still say they have it easy because they play in the AAC. Like I said in a different thread, some people are just obsessed with their conference, and I'll never understand why.

Haters are gonna hate!!! When I was a regular contributor on ESPN's threads, adversarial "trolls" would frequently drop in and make snide comments that the UConn women were doomed because they played in a weak conference, and that would ultimately be their downfall. They did not believe that UConn could maintain its dominance over the top ranked programs come tournament time, if their conference schedule was weak and non-competitive, being comprised of nothing more than unranked mid-majors.

Bottom line: they don't like UConn because when UConn wins the championship, it means their team didn't. And they know that their team can't beat UConn, now or in the near future. They seriously think UConn's dominance is bad for women's basketball.

Many of them thought the move to the AAC was by choice, and we should immediately move again to a stronger conference. These jealous know-it-all trolls were constantly bashing Geno and the Huskies. The board lit up like New York's times square on new years eve when UConn lost to Stanford. All of the trolls came out of the woodwork dancing and singing, prophesying our demise.

Several UConn supporters tried to explain to them the dynamics of college sports, and it's not that easy to change conferences whenever the mood strikes you. Obviously they did not understand (or were aware of ) the "politics" of college sports.

It's common knowledge that UConn did not choose to be re-assigned to the American Athletic Conference after the Big East conference was realigned, and that UConn was the odd man out. They were also unaware (before we enlightened them) that UConn petitioned several other conferences for admission, and all of those petitions were denied.

From Wikipedia: The American Athletic Conference was known as the Big East until the 2013 breakup. While the conference charter and legal entity remain with the American, that conference no longer recognizes the pre-split competitive history of the Big East in any sport—even in football and women's rowing, the two sports that are sponsored by The American but not by the current Big East. The current Big East maintains the competitive history of the original conference in all sports that it sponsors.

Three years (and 3 NC's) later, UConn is still on top riding a 48 game winning streak. It's business as usual for the Geno and his Argonauts in their pursuit of this year's "golden fleece". Being a member of the AAC has done absolutely nothing to diminish UConn's dominance in WCBB.

UConn's strong OOC schedule, and its recent success of winning consecutive national championships, has allowed it to remain the "gold standard" by which other programs are measured, and the pacesetter that all other programs aspire to be. Right now, these are peaceful times in the kingdom. All is well.

Until UConn's football program becomes more attractive and competitive in the eyes of the "power" conferences, UConn will continue to be relegated to the confines of the AAC.

As the French say: "En effet!"

Happy New Year everyone. :cool:
 
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I, for one, thought that Uconn being stuck in the AAC would eventually hurt the program because of the lack of competition. I am now shifting to a new perspective. What is was not considered in the old view was that Uconn's presence in the conference would over time elevate the other teams in that conference. Playing in the conference with Uconn would draw recruits to the teams in the AAC and increase the level of the conference. Parity in WCBB also plays a role in that respect. More talent to distribute among the teams leads to that. The level of talent among players just in the short time I have followed WCBB is obvious.

I always thought that the lack of competition in the AAC would over time impact the Uconn program. Now it seems like the level of teams in the conference might potentially rise quickly enough to compensate for those long term effects. Parity will eventually affect the dominance of the elite WCBB programs and that can already be seen by some of the other teams. Any decline in the dominance of Uconn would eventually happen through parity and the ordinary fluctuations of any program rather than the affectt of playing in the AAC.
 

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I, for one, thought that Uconn being stuck in the AAC would eventually hurt the program because of the lack of competition. I am now shifting to a new perspective. What is was not considered in the old view was that Uconn's presence in the conference would over time elevate the other teams in that conference. Playing in the conference with Uconn would draw recruits to the teams in the AAC and increase the level of the conference. Parity in WCBB also plays a role in that respect. More talent to distribute among the teams leads to that. The level of talent among players just in the short time I have followed WCBB is obvious.

I always thought that the lack of competition in the AAC would over time impact the Uconn program. Now it seems like the level of teams in the conference might potentially rise quickly enough to compensate for those long term effects. Parity will eventually affect the dominance of the elite WCBB programs and that can already be seen by some of the other teams. Any decline in the dominance of Uconn would eventually happen through parity and the ordinary fluctuations of any program rather than the affectt of playing in the AAC.
I do think most folks nattering about the in-conference strength and its impact are more worried about the post-Geno era. Geno has it covered.

The future strength of the conference in WBB is affected by football, as it is the lack of "big-time" football money that will most hurt teams from improving. No conference is so good that a team will be able to attract recruits with significantly sub-par facilities. If the American can begin to establish a strong football presence and good football revenue stream, teams will improve, I'm sure. As I have said repetitively, many of the teams have a decent history at the mid-major level, so they are not trying to improve from nothing.
 
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I was just wondering...What are the outsiders saying now as they did in the past regarding "Recruits will stop flocking to Uconn due to their weak schedule" and the fact they are no longer part of the Big East?

Because as of this year Uconn has beaten Florida St. (Top 10 At One Time), Ohio St. (Top 10), Maryland (#6), ND (#3), Depaul (Top 25), and in February will do battle with South Carolina (#2).

Now yes i understand the conference is nothing to rave about regarding competition. But to say Uconn doesn't play anybody (After They've Won 3 National Titles) have me scratching my head.

Your premise is false. There were those --hell, I was one of 'em -- who said that UConn would have a harder time recruiting because it is in the AAC. I am still convinced that will prove to be true. Does not mean UConn won't have wonderful teams, for at least as long as Geno is coach, but it will be harder to recruit.

That said, what I and others really complained about was the cupcake part of the schedule. We were not acting as trolls, but were concerned about the team building an out of conference schedule that actually helped them to better prepare for the really tough games. This was especially true during the two or three years when they hosted a holiday tournament against such juggernauts as Hofstra, Iona and Fairleigh-for-cryin'-out-loud-Dickinson. Now I know why those teams ended up at the Hartford Civic Center. I know how hard it is to bring in good teams all the time. My only point, and I think it was shared by a number of BYers, was that it'd be great if UConn could play Marist instead of Iona, Wisconsin-Green Bay instead of Fairleigh-for-cryin'-out-loud-Dickinson. I had no reason to complain as of abut three years ago when UConn established a tougher OOC schedule with teams like Florida State, OSU and MD.

None of this says anything about the weak conference, which still is something that other universities would have to be nuts not to use against UConn.
 
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Not being smug and with all due humility, this falls into the "Who Cares" category......

As John Wooden said time and time again, do not dwell on what other teams are doing and what other people are saying. Focus on yourself and your team and continuous improvement, and everything will take care of itself.
 

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I'd love to see UConn join the Big 10 conference (which has not been "10" for a long time). Maryland and Ohio State, for example, on their schedule (probably) twice each year would be awesome.
 

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I do think there are a few aspects of the AAC that get overlooked and of the old BE:
1. The old BE was not historically very good - for the first 20 years of Geno's reign, the strength of conference was a talking point in recruiting against Uconn. We all think of the last ten years of the conference and remember years with 8 teams getting NCAA bids - wasn't happening in the 1990s when Uconn was building their tradition. ND who joined the conference in 1995 was the first non-Uconn BE member to reach a FF (1997) and remains the only other BE team to have won an NC. Rutgers (1995 joiner as well) was the second in 2000 and those two teams remained the only ones that were occasionally competitive for the FF until Jeff got Louisville (2005 joiner) going.

2. In women's sports in general the quality of education has a stronger effect on recruiting than in men's sports. Less professional money and prospects and women being generally better students in HS makes academics more important for a larger percentage of the talented recruits. When looking at conferences in women's basketball, the current AAC is a definite step down academically from the old big east and is not really competitive with most of the P5 conferences. That combined with the 'anchor' schools that make up most of the P5 conferences creates a recruiting disadvantage - a choice between OSU or University of Cincinnati for a recruit is not likely to turn out well for the AAC. SMU v Baylor, Houston v Texas, USF v. Miami, UCF v. Florida/FSU, ECU v UNC ...

3. On the plus side for Uconn specifically, the sprawling nature of the AAC geography does help recruiting - member teams cover the whole eastern seaboard, the midwest and south through Texas. The exposure is definitely a positive even if the travel is extensive.

Bottom line - the presence of Uconn in the AAC will help other schools recruiting, and there does appear to be both good coaching and a genuine interest from member schools to increase the quality of their WCBB programs, but that is likely to only go so far in strengthening the conference. The attractiveness of the schools themselves versus their local and national competition will limit how far they can rise. And the opportunities for the best coaches that the AAC develops will be better in other conferences. Uconn with Geno will succeed - the brand is that strong, post Geno it will be much tougher.
 

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When someone asks about how USF fares within the conference, I always say "There's UCONN and then everyone else". LOL

Although we are no longer in the "Big East", USF has become a force within the conference. I would love to see USF win the conference championship; however, I'll settle for second place...........only because first goes to UCONN.
 
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