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Beating those teams isn’t going to do enough for our resume to risk the bad loss. These games are for the sole purpose of fine tuning and chemistry. We don’t need a super tough opponent to do that
But you need a semblance of an opponent which these teams are not ! We are not Georgetown we are not losing to Dartmouth and if we do then so be it we weren’t winning the championship anyways
 
Just from a quick glance at KenPom we could play some combo of Stony Brook, Bryant, UNH, Fairfield, Quinnipiac, Monmouth, Rider every year. And probably another 5-10 I could have listed, all ranked between 200 and 250 right now. Can easily rotate those teams for 4 games a year to get a solid gauge of our team, all Northeast teams who'd be happy to schedule us
 
I agree with your point for the most part, I don't think we need to be replacing these games with top tier games like some people are suggesting. But it would be nice if we take these games against 300+ cupcakes and just play teams in the 200s instead
@Palatine said it best. In addition we owe it to Patrick Sellers and all the top programs owe it to HBCU's...
The reason we play CCSU is because we are in a position to help a fellow Connecticut state university. It's good for the university system in the state for multiple reasons.

We played Coppin State because the entire NCAA has focused on giving HBCU's a place on the schedules of the nations basketball powers.

I find both rationale for scheduling both these games to be reasonable
 
Just from a quick glance at KenPom we could play some combo of Stony Brook, Bryant, UNH, Fairfield, Quinnipiac, Monmouth, Rider every year. And probably another 5-10 I could have listed, all ranked between 200 and 250 right now. Can easily rotate those teams for 4 games a year to get a solid gauge of our team, all Northeast teams who'd be happy to schedule us
Can’t argue with Progress.

I’m not advocating we schedule as tough as UK I just pointed out there’s a vast middle ground between our respective programs’ scheduling philosophies.

Having said that Gimme northeast teams ~150-200 as the warm ups e.g. umass, northeastern, BU, GW, Bryant, UNH, Vermont, the Ivies etc.

There’s a higher level of familiarity and Everyone one of those would be a sell out as double digit favorites
 
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@Palatine said it best. In addition we owe it to Patrick Sellers and all the top programs owe it to HBCU's...
Oh absolutely, I have no issue scheduling a game against Coppin State or throwing Sellers a bone. 1 or 2 games like that a year are fine. Those 2, schedule 3-4 Northeast 150-250 games a year, Gavitt/B12, MTE would be a perfect schedule for me. If someone like the Bonnies want to play like this year replace one of the Northeast games
 
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@Palatine said it best. In addition we owe it to Patrick Sellers and all the top programs owe it to HBCU's...

I've got no problem with CCSU and Coppin. Would love to have a rotating schedule of 1 or 2 in-state teams a year + an HBCU or 2.

The problem is when we tack on LIU (273), Binghamton (322), Maryland Eastern Shore (HBCU, 354) on top of that. Sub in a 100-200 team and we have more fans at the games, more competitive games, and a little bit better looking schedule come selection Sunday. 100-200 games are at least somewhat competitive.

Anyone saying our schedule is comprable to other teams in our position are blind. Take a look around the conference and the NCAA.
 
Contrast to 2009-2010

William & Mary: 107/348
Colgate: 290/348
Hofstra: 131/348
Boston University: 133/348
Harvard: 111/348
UCF: 166/348
Maine: 213/348
Iona: 110/348
I was just thinking today that teams like Harvard are perfect early season OOC matchups.
 
I've got no problem with CCSU and Coppin. Would love to have a rotating schedule of 1 or 2 in-state teams a year + an HBCU or 2.

The problem is when we tack on LIU (273), Binghamton (322), Maryland Eastern Shore (HBCU, 354) on top of that. Sub in a 100-200 team and we have more fans at the games, more competitive games, and a little bit better looking schedule come selection Sunday. 100-200 games are at least somewhat competitive.

Anyone saying our schedule is comprable to other teams in our position are blind. Take a look around the conference and the NCAA.
I just don’t think this is an actual issue, I think it’s nitpicking. If it seems as though it’s effecting us in an substantial way then let’s revisit. But we are going to have more than enough cracks at those types of teams in BE play and our beginning of the season tournaments. If we are relying on a win against a Dartmouth to get into the tournament, then what they hell are we doing. I just have a hard time believing our season will ever come down to whether we played Dartmouth over Coppin St in early November
 
Our OOC sucks compared to other teams in our position.
That may be true but adding AAC/A10 teams early is a about the dumbest thing you can do. You’re going to risk getting beaten (especially early before you have your team figured out) and having that kill your resume unless that other team ends up absolutely dominating their conference. Plus, they almost certainly play a different style than all the power schools you’ll play, so you won’t really be gaining the experience you want there.

If you can mix in some OOC power schools obviously that has benefits, even if you don’t pull them all off.
 
That may be true but adding AAC/A10 teams early is a about the dumbest thing you can do. You’re going to risk getting beaten (especially early before you have your team figured out) and having that kill your resume unless that other team ends up absolutely dominating their conference. Plus, they almost certainly play a different style than all the power schools you’ll play, so you won’t really be gaining the experience you want there.

If you can mix in some OOC power schools obviously that has benefits, even if you don’t pull them all off.
Thank You. It’s the actual definition of high risk low reward. It’s an ego driven move that makes zero actual sense. If the win isn’t going to help your resume you might as well play a cupcake
 
I've got no problem with CCSU and Coppin. Would love to have a rotating schedule of 1 or 2 in-state teams a year + an HBCU or 2.

The problem is when we tack on LIU (273), Binghamton (322), Maryland Eastern Shore (HBCU, 354) on top of that. Sub in a 100-200 team and we have more fans at the games, more competitive games, and a little bit better looking schedule come selection Sunday. 100-200 games are at least somewhat competitive.

Anyone saying our schedule is comprable to other teams in our position are blind. Take a look around the conference and the NCAA.
They scheduled 3 HBCU's and I don't see Hurley budging on that, he takes supporting HBCU's more seriously than just about anyone and we owe it to Sellers and Central. So basically we would like two tougher opponents instead of Binghamton and LIU, I agree with that. It's unfortunate we were left out of the Gavitt games this season.
 
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And just because we’ve always done it this way doesn’t mean we can’t do it better.

My best pal is a lifelong UK fan and he respects our program but doesn’t understand why we don’t have more marquee OOC games. Their fans would take a L to Duke over a 40 point cupcake blowout any day
Kentucky has had the luxury of playing in the “champions” classic over the last 10 years which guarantees them a game vs KU, MSU, or Duke. I think our OOC has been pretty decent. It’s just this season seems like it’s a little thin. I just wish we had a premier OOC home game like we usually do.
 
That may be true but adding AAC/A10 teams early is a about the dumbest thing you can do. You’re going to risk getting beaten (especially early before you have your team figured out) and having that kill your resume unless that other team ends up absolutely dominating their conference. Plus, they almost certainly play a different style than all the power schools you’ll play, so you won’t really be gaining the experience you want there.

If you can mix in some OOC power schools obviously that has benefits, even if you don’t pull them all off.
Never thought I hear so many UConn fans say they were scared to play the aac or a10
 
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I have no problems with the overall non-conference schedule. Atlantis should be at least two real solid games. WVU is no joke. St. Bonaventure is a top-25 team.

Are people complaining about the non-conference schedule overall or just the home non-conference games.

There are plenty of solid games to give the players and staff a full accounting of where they stand and some games for the staff and players to work on things. I'm perfectly fine with the overall non-conference schedule.
 
Never thought I hear so many UConn fans say they were scared to play the aac or a10
Ego. Nobodies scared. There just isn’t much in it for us
 
I agree with your point for the most part, I don't think we need to be replacing these games with top tier games like some people are suggesting. But it would be nice if we take these games against 300+ cupcakes and just play teams in the 200s instead
This is exactly my point.
 
I agree that we should be playing a buzzsaw schedule when trying to work in players coming off major injuries and multiple freshmen, and trying to find an identity for the team after losing a lottery pick considering we only play 20 Big East games. Its a good idea.
Or, alternatively, you can say maybe you have cupcakes that are ranked 150-250 rather than 250-350 for a variety of reasons.
 
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Ego. Nobodies scared. There just isn’t much in it for us
We have the sixth most chips of any program we can have a little bit of an ego.

No one wants to watch half a dozen blowouts against schools they can’t find on a map. Hadn’t even heard of umes until this year.
 
We have the sixth most chips of any program we can have a little ego. No one wants to watch half a dozen blowouts against schools they can’t find on a map.
No one really cares if we take care of business when it matters. You won’t care in 2 months. I promise
 
Tbh I think it's just vital we get a P5 H/H series set up with someone interesting moving forward. You also gotta hope some of these teams finish higher in Kenpom than they are right now.
 
Need to get ready for the big boys in the BE.
IMO only 3 BE teams at most are gonna be ranked at any given time this year, including us. No cupcakes obvi but Nova might be the only real big boy.

Anyways, I’ll just agree to disagree on this point until it happens again next season
 
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We have the sixth most chips of any program we can have a little bit of an ego.

No one wants to watch half a dozen blowouts against schools they can’t find on a map. Hadn’t even heard of umes until this year.
Good teams blowout Inferior competition. That was something we did not really do under the last regime. Remember losing to Wagner and Northeastern back to back in Gampel? Or losing to Yale? Remember needing OT to beat Columbia? When that was going on, I missed the days where we would destroy teams like that by 40-50 points. Im OK with blowing out CCSU by 50 and Coppin St by 40 because honestly, thats what we should be doing.
 
Exhibition games don't count.
They sold tickets and kept score. They counted in that regard. (Fans paid to go watch the team play. They were opportunities to try things and get young guys minutes.

We’ve made a business decision. Cupcakes over exhibitions.
 
They sold tickets and kept score. They counted in that regard. (Fans paid to go watch the team play. They were opportunities to try things and get young guys minutes.

We’ve made a business decision. Cupcakes over exhibitions.
You're conflating a few of the objections here.

The home slate this year absolutely sucks, and replacing Coppin State with Howard doesn't make the home slate better for fans.

But replacing Coppin State with their MEAC counterpart Howard is potentially playing a school ranked over 100 slots better, which would really help our SOS.

Aside from the fact that those two games you noted didn't factor into the season tickets (so really didn't hurt the home slate for fans), they also didn't affect our SOS and so had no bearing on our seed line.

Atlantis, St. Bonaventure, and West Virginia are very good OOC games. It's a "Screw you" to fans that none are at home, but fine. But also, you don't need to replace UMES with Duke or Kansas (probably a bad idea to do that entirely). You do want to build a schedule that avoids this many of the worst 10-25 teams though. Unless these schools are better than we thought, it's going to bite us Selection Sunday.
 
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