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Men UConn Baseball @ 2023 NCAA Tournament’s Gainesville Regional (6/2>6/5). Elimination Sunday 6/4/23 v. Florida Gators @Noon on SEC Network

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In other action, not a great day for Northeast baseball. Except for Penn who is currently tied with Auburn and Rider who came back to lead Coastal Carolina. CCSU and Army both got smoked. The announcers on the Vanderbilt broadcast were talking about the need for a mercy rule in the tournament.
 
HCCForever said:
In other action, not a great day for Northeast baseball. Except for Penn who is currently tied with Auburn and Rider who came back to lead Coastal Carolina. CCSU and Army both got smoked. The announcers on the Vanderbilt broadcast were talking about the need for a mercy rule in the tournamen
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Yes. And Northeastern and BC lost as well.
 
uconnbaseball said:
Even with morton’s speed, think that is 50/50 at best…maybe 40/60
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I can't blame Penders for not not sending him especially with Dom the next batter. I though the catch was deeper when I saw it live.
 
Can we stop with the idea you can’t criticize a penders move? It’s baseball. The ultimate second guessing sport.
Doesn’t take away from the incredible job he’s done here.
I would have sent him because with Morton’s speed he’s safe if it’s not a near perfect throw.
Even a one hop throw on target could handcuff the catcher depending on how close to him it bounces.
If you think it’s 40-60 or 50-50, that’s probably higher odds than the next batter or next two batters knocking him in.
Just win tomorrow and we go from there. I do like him saving his best remaining horse for the game after next.
 
Bomber36 said:
Sorry this one is better. Did he even tag up? Doesn’t look like it. The decision was made off the bat, I think.
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Yep, good post with the call being shallow right and Penders never taking his hands from his knees. Same call I would have made as a player or the coach, they both made the right decision in the situation.
I get the high risk gamblers here but sometimes you have to hedge your bets to stay in the game. That play did not decide this game.
 
uconnbaseball said:
Even with morton’s speed, think that is 50/50 at best…maybe 40/60
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Ok, even at those numbers, that’s still better odds than the run getting driven in from the plate with 2 outs. I forget the game a couple weeks ago but they made the same dumb call to hold the runner at third, but it ultimately didn’t cost them. Here it did. You absolutely test a college outfielder there with your fastest guy on the team. Every time.

We can send a runner to steal second with 2 outs to barely increase the chances of scoring a run from second, but we can’t put pressure on a right fielder to nail the throw there at a critical moment to hold the lead? Makes no sense.
 
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Husker Husky said:
ESPN didn't show the throw from the RF. At least I didn't see it. I wonder if it was on line. It was extremely short.
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MarkyMark said:
It was slightly up the first base line. My first thought was he would have still been out. Just my initial reaction to the live play. Could Morton have hooked and faded it? don’t know. Dom Amore said the fly ball was medium depth…..I think it was shortish-medium. I haven’t seen the play on tv yet but sounds like it wasn’t shown in full. If there were no outs this isn’t a discussion. With one out…makes for good convo.
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Would have been out to short of a fly ball and the right fielder had a rifle of a arm. Play for me a bunt down first base. New day new bats!
 
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Looking big picture for the regional, an opening game loss to TT and beating A&M puts them most likely in a rematch with TT.

This is the same route as beating TT, losing to UF and TT beating A&M.

Which is also the way the regional is supposed to go. After two games, the one seed should be 2-0, the 2 and 3 seeds should be 1-1 and the 4 seed should be 0-2.

I'd assume advantage for TT would be they would be the home team in the elimination game, correct?
 
MarkyMark said:
It was slightly up the first base line. My first thought was he would have still been out. Just my initial reaction to the live play. Could Morton have hooked and faded it? don’t know. Dom Amore said the fly ball was medium depth…..I think it was shortish-medium. I haven’t seen the play on tv yet but sounds like it wasn’t shown in full. If there were no outs this isn’t a discussion. With one out…makes for good convo.
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It was not medium depth. It was caught in short right field. Throw would not have to have been good, just decent, even as fast as Morton is.
 
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The Viking said:
Can we stop with the idea you can’t criticize a penders move? It’s baseball. The ultimate second guessing sport.
Doesn’t take away from the incredible job he’s done here.
I would have sent him because with Morton’s speed he’s safe if it’s not a near perfect throw.
Even a one hop throw on target could handcuff the catcher depending on how close to him it bounces.
If you think it’s 40-60 or 50-50, that’s probably higher odds than the next batter or next two batters knocking him in.
Just win tomorrow and we go from there. I do like him saving his best remaining horse for the game after next.
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Fully agree with the first sentence. Compared to football and basketball, anyone with a rudimentary knowledge of baseball can intelligently second guess all types of decisions because baseball is far more data driven and based on individual actions instead of team actions. I think Penders made the right judgment there, but anyone can challenge it without in any way challenging what a great coach he is.
 
jrazz12 said:
Ok, even at those numbers, that’s still better odds than the run getting driven in from the plate with 2 outs. I forget the game a couple weeks ago but they made the same dumb call to hold the runner at third, but it ultimately didn’t cost them. Here it did. You absolutely test a college outfielder there with your fastest guy on the team. Every time.

We can send a runner to steal second with 2 outs to barely increase the chances of scoring a run from second, but we can’t put pressure on a right fielder to nail the throw there at a critical moment to hold the lead? Makes no sense.
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Yes, at 50/50 you send him, but the percentages people are throwing out here for the odds of him scoring are just being pulled from the proverbial horse’s butt. The odds of scoring the run by holding him are much easier to calculate reasonably — the average of Freeburger’s BA and the pitcher’s BA against, plus the odds of a wp/pb or error. Then, remember that if both those probabilities are roughly even, holding him greatly increases the chances of a multi-run inning and us taking the lead.
 
It was a shallow fly ball and our best hitter and Big East player of the year was coming up. Unless you're 100% sure Morton scores there you don't send him. On a ball that shallow it's not remotely close to 100%
 
businesslawyer said:
Yes, at 50/50 you send him, but the percentages people are throwing out here for the odds of him scoring are just being pulled from the proverbial horse’s butt. The odds of scoring the run by holding him are much easier to calculate reasonably — the average of Freeburger’s BA and the pitcher’s BA against, plus the odds of a wp/pb or error. Then, remember that if both those probabilities are roughly even, holding him greatly increases the chances of a multi-run inning and us taking the lead.
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It’s just been a common theme and frustration through the years, poor baserunning decisions. Why get aggressive and try to steal second with 2 outs in the 7th and then waste Morton on 3rd one inning later? I’m perfectly fine being aggressive on both there. If you’re nailed at the plate you tip your cap.
 
dbmill said:
I just checked, and that is the case. UConn in that stretch of 9 Tourneys in 13 seasons has always won at least 1 game in the Regional round.
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And that's honestly insane to me! I don't know that even many of the national powerhouses/perennial title contenders can say that
 
That fly out was shallow. Aggressive is one thing but even with Morton you are just running into an out unless the outfielder is way off line with the throw. It’s not a 50/50 in my mind, more like 10-20% chance of success.
 
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The advantage of beating TT is you have a change to get to the finals through the winners bracket. If you assume that either of us or TT loses to UF today (and I guaranty you that neither us nor TT is thinking this way), you’d rather be us on Sunday morning than TT, since they will go with their best pitchers today and we will hope to save ours and get by Florida A&M with second line pitchers.
 
dbmill said:
Yeah, between the errors in the field and the getting pinched hit for in recent games, it turns out not to be a big surprise.
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Disagree. I’m really, really surprised. I don’t think Padilla has sat for a game the entire season. Rear guts ball to make the change now.
 
jrazz12 said:
It’s just been a common theme and frustration through the years, poor baserunning decisions. Why get aggressive and try to steal second with 2 outs in the 7th and then waste Morton on 3rd one inning later? I’m perfectly fine being aggressive on both there. If you’re nailed at the plate you tip your cap.
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That’s a truly shallow analysis. You are basing it on “aggressive” versus “non-aggressive” with literally zero consideration of relevant percentages of success. You should want us to be aggressive when it makes sense and conservative when it makes sense. “Aggressive” versus “non-aggressive” is literally for 50/50 calls, and sending Drew Kron in a game where we had 2 hits in 6 and 2/3 innings was a smart call by the percentages.
 
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businesslawyer said:
Disagree. I’m really, really surprised. I don’t think Padilla has sat for a game the entire season. Rear guts ball to make the change now.
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Yes, Padilla has started every game this season up until now. Thing is, combined with the problems Padilla has had of late, it would seem the coaching staff also really want to get Daniels back into the lineup.
 
dbmill said:
Yes, Padilla has started every game this season up until now. Thing is, combined with the problems Padilla has had of late, it would seem the coaching staff also really want to get Daniels back into the lineup.
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Penders just mentioned on pre-game that Padilla hasn’t been himself and they are just looking to get a lift by getting Daniels’ bat in line-up and he is a better match-up against FAMU pitcher.
 
businesslawyer said:
Disagree. I’m really, really surprised. I don’t think Padilla has sat for a game the entire season. Rear guts ball to make the change now.
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I would say, what took them so long?

This is crunch time. Win or go home. He's had problems and was given the time to get right
 
Top 1st, Freeberger with a 2 out single. Huber follows with an extra base hit, but Freeberger is thrown out at the plate for the final out of the inning. No score.

Well, at least UConn got a couple of early hits, a big difference from yesterday, that is for sure.
 
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