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If you are ok with his "needs to be fired" comment I guess there's nothing more I can say.

In theory no one should be fired over a draft pick since the entire organization should have ironed out all the kinks and strategies beforehand and there shouldn't be any draft day surprises from within the organization.

However, if a GM or player personnel director offered up drafting a player with Bennett's profile and when questioned about it doubled down on it, I wouldn't have a problem sending him packing.

Agree to disagree and we'll leave it that.
 
In theory no one should be fired over a draft pick since the entire organization should have ironed out all the kinks and strategies beforehand and there shouldn't be any draft day surprises from within the organization.

However, if a GM or player personnel director offered up drafting a player with Bennett's profile and when questioned about it doubled down on it, I wouldn't have a problem sending him packing.

Agree to disagree and we'll leave it that.

Maybe I'm not being clear. To say someone should be fired for drafting Jimmy is a huge insult and disrespect to a player who gave everything he had, and then some, for 6 years. It's something someone would say about an opposing team's player.
 
FWIW: Greg Gabriel, who was an actual evaluator of players for an NFL franchise twitted just a few days ago that not only a GM that drafted Blake Bortles in the first round would be fired within 3 years, but the head coach too. He wrote a whole 2 page article I think after that because of the blowback.

Sometimes it's good to get away from the internets and experience a little reality for a while. Opinions are like balloon knots remember. Jimmy Bennett, if he impresses somebody, might make it to the league. If he gets drafted, it's a risky investment. People tend to write things on the internets, that they wouldn't say verbally face to face with another human being. Believe it or not, I actually try my damndest not to do that. What you read is what you get with me.
 
"Courtesy of his agent, Jimmy Bennett is off to Pittsburgh now to work for about 5 weeks with a trainer from the Steelers prior to pro day. Bennett's agent, who represents quite a few elite linemen, thinks Bennett will do well and may get drafted in the later rounds or possibly sign on as a free agent."

Just as you might suspect, it looks like there are lots of opinions out there. I concur with Sportsart in his discussion with bmayuc. A little respect shown to our players, especially one who came back from serious injury and endured a tough rehab regimen, is never a bad thing--no matter what you think about his NFL prospects. You can certainly voice your opinion--it's your right on this board--but "right" and "classy" are two different things. Jimmy just got engaged to former UConn Basketball player Heather Buck and now he's pursuing his dream of playing in the NFL. My sense is that he's doing just fine (notwithstanding the bmayuc diatribe) and appreciates all the support he's received over the years from friends, fans and players. We wish him nothing but the best wherever he may land. I for one hope it's the Giants in the 7th round.
 
Amen Nostical. and for the record Bmay was right about Jimmy having 2 major surgeries however they were over 2 years ago and he was healthy the last two years and for some reason struggled with false starts. However I would caution that for the most part people on this board have very little clue about wether Jimmy had a good or bad season. I do know some of what people thought were the most egregious problems( a couple of strip sacks come to mind) were upon review not blamed on him as he was often graded 80+ once film was reviewed. In more than one case he took and rode his man deep(10 yds) only to find the QB setting up 3 steps further back than he was supposed to. Again most people have no idea that wasn't the OT's fault. Jimmy has the measurables that an NFL team is looking for which is why he might be a late round pick for some team looking for someone they might be able mold into their system. I think pro day will be a big day for him to prove he is totally healthy.
Jimmy was a great asset for our team and a great role model. He graduated with 3 degrees and got engaged to another great former Husky. I'm glad I got to know him and his family and wish him nothing but the best.
 
Here's he thing about the NFL draft. You only have to make one guy like you. Tebow got the Broncos to draft him in the first round. A HUGE mistake. But he went in round one because he convinced one GM to do it. Even if the other 31 NFL GMs knew better.
 
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This thread has turned into a steaming mess. Regardless of what you think about Bennett, there's no reason to go out of your way to talk down a Husky. If the Giants draft him, he'll be a Giant and you can crap on him all you want, but there's no reason to do it now.

Does anyone know when the combine invitations go out?
 
http://nfldrafttalentevaluator.blogspot.com/2014/01/senior-bowl-prospects-preview.html

>>Sharmar Stephen, DT UConn

Stephen possesses an impressive combination of size at (6-5/315) and athleticism. He is very explosive off the snap and shows quick closing burst of speed when in pursuit. Stephen gets penetration in the backfield and displays the ability to be disruptive at times as an interior pass-rusher and run stuffer. He needs to improve his technique and hand placement to consistently get off blocks. Scouts would like him to improve his upper body strength and become more active with his hand and length. They are intrigued with Stephen’s upside, athleticism and potential to get stronger. He started all 12 games and compiled 60 tackles, including 10 for loss and three sacks finishing third on the team in total tackles while leading the defense in tackles for loss and finishing second in sacks. Stephen productive senior campaign definitely put him on the radar of more NFL teams this year.<<

P.S. - for the love of Taber Small look @ who the author is! ;)
 
Jimmy Bennett is probably not going to be drafted. He may sign on as an UDFA, but may very well be the first one cut in the event the team has injury issues at other positions. I too never understood the Jimmy Bennett love while he was here. His first three years on the field were marred by injury. Staying fit to play is as valuable a skill as running a sub-5 second 40 and being able to pancake block. Like bmayuc and Diesel said it's not a reflection on the person, it's all about the player. In the pros, players are a commodity; Inventory on the field, if you will. Thinking along those lines as a UConn Football fan (former offensive line "coach" DeLeone notwithstanding), I think Bennett very well may have hurt UConn more than he helped due to the lack of continuity and consistency on the line in general.

Then again, I though the best place for Nick Williams was the CFL. He ended up signing as an UDFA and contributed on a few plays for my favorite team down D.C. way. So what do I know?
 
Here's he thing about the NFL draft. You only have to make one guy like you. Tebow got the Broncos to draft him in the first round. A HUGE mistake. But he went in round one because he convinced one GM to do it. Even if the other 31 NFL GMs knew better.
...and it contributed to getting Josh McDaniels fired.
 
desmondconner2:15pm via Twitter for iPhone
About 11-12 #NFL teams talked to former#UConnFootball LT Jimmy Bennett this month at Medal of Honor Bowl; half were fairly in-depth

desmondconner2:19pm via Twitter for iPhone
Former #UConnFootball LT Bennett had four surgeries during career. There'll be ??s but he will be fully cleared by doctor his agent says..

desmondconner2:22pm via Twitter for iPhone
Former #UConnFootball LG Steve Greene working out in Pittsburgh with former teammate and roommate Jimmy Bennett... Still rooming together

desmondconner2:51pm via Twitter for iPhone
Former #UConnFootball LG Steve Greene working out with a chip on shoulder after not being selected to play in postseason showcases...
 
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His first three years on the field were marred by injury. Staying fit to play is as valuable a skill as running a sub-5 second 40 and being able to pancake block. Like bmayuc and Diesel said it's not a reflection on the person, it's all about the player. In the pros, players are a commodity; Inventory on the field, if you will. Thinking along those lines as a UConn Football fan (former offensive line "coach" DeLeone notwithstanding), I think Bennett very well may have hurt UConn more than he helped due to the lack of continuity and consistency on the line in general.


Good grief. I have never heard anyone claim that you prevent knee injuries by being in shape. Your number is called or it isn't. And regardless of how the NFL considers young adults as commodities, don't expect any support on this board whatsoever for thinking that it's o.k. to refer to UConn student-athletes in so cavilier a manner just because NFL scouts may. You won't find support for that here (if there's a God in heaven.
 
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Then again, I though the best place for Nick Williams was the CFL. So what do I know?

You weren't alone. Nick Williams was dissed by several on this board (you know who you are) as not having NFL talent and his pursuit of it was considered a mere folly. The fact is that Nick is very well thought of by the new OC and the ST coaches of the Redskins. Look for him to have a much greater role next year.
And I wouldn't neccessarily discount Jimmy Bennett or Steve Greene's chances. It's a fact that some of our players now looking for an opportunity at the next level may not make it but in the end they are, and always will be, Huskies forever. That counts for a lot around here.
 
You weren't alone. Nick Williams was dissed by several on this board (you know who you are) as not having NFL talent and his pursuit of it was considered a mere folly. The fact is that Nick is very well thought of by the new OC and the ST coaches of the Redskins. Look for him to have a much greater role next year.
And I wouldn't neccessarily discount Jimmy Bennett or Steve Greene's chances. It's a fact that some of our players now looking for an opportunity at the next level may not make it but in the end they are, and always will be, Huskies forever. That counts for a lot around here.

I commented on another thread where Shane Day was hired by the 'Skins as an offensive assistant. I commented that he may be WR coach and Williams' roll could very well be solidified given Santana Moss's age.
 
I commented on another thread where Shane Day was hired by the 'Skins as an offensive assistant. I commented that he may be WR coach and Williams' roll could very well be solidified given Santana Moss's age.

You still dissed Bennett. To say he hurt UConn more than he helped is so uncalled for. His character alone is worth more than you know.
 
Good grief. I have never heard anyone claim that you prevent knee injuries by being in shape. Your number is called or it isn't. And regardless of how the NFL considers young adults as commodities, don't expect any support on this board whatsoever for thinking that it's o.k. to refer to UConn student-athletes in so cavilier a manner just because NFL scouts may. You won't find support for that here (if there's a God in heaven.

I never said that. I said staying fit to play is as valuable a skill as any other physical attribute.

I just commented on the 2004 Red Sox in a different thread. Nomar Garciaparra was on a career trajectory that was supposed to end in Cooperstown. He got hit on the wrist by Al Reyes, and then again on the heel by a batted ball in spring training. Was that his fault? No, but the consequence is that Nomar is probably not getting into the Hall of Fame without a ticket.

The same thing applies here. Jimmy Bennett could have all the talent in the world, but unless he consistently proved it on the field, play after play, game after game and year after year, talent matters not to the team as a whole. As a fan, I heard too often: Just wait until Bennett comes back, then UConn's O-line will be awesome. That notion failed the eye test. BTW, you can do your part to prevent a knee injury by strengthening the muscles around the joint, but that in neither here nor there, because sometimes happens, as you say. I honestly do not recall if that particular injury was non-contact or not. He also suffered through shoulder and thumb surgeries as well as various other more minor injuries that may or may not have impeded his performance.

Second, I also didn't say anything about Jimmy Bennett the student, Jimmy Bennett the person, nor anything about Jimmy Bennett's work ethic during his recovery from his various surgeries and injuries. I commented on Bennett the player as a singular part of the football team as a whole, because that is the extent of our relationship (i.e. we don't have one). I offered my opinion on his NFL draft prospects and while I hope Bennett's degree allows him to engage in his interests inside and outside of football, there is not much I can personally contribute to his pursuits.

That being said, when I am watching a football game (or any other sporting event for that matter) at this level, I watch it as a fan. Generally, there are only two things I expect in return: 1) to be entertained; and 2) for those involved to do nothing outside the parameters of the game that gets in the way of their involvement in the game. Let me be clear, I do not wish any ill will on anybody, but I realized a long time ago (unless I am a friend, relative, or otherwise in their support circle) that these players, whether it be college or pro, on average care about me personally only up to the point that I fulfill my socially accepted responsibilities as a ticket bearing fan, which I do. I am not apologetic about it, nor about the fact that you think I should be.

You still dissed Bennett. To say he hurt UConn more than he helped is so uncalled for. His character alone is worth more than you know.

I'll ignore for the moment that you responded to a post that did not even refer to Bennett and that you took my comment about Bennett out of context. As a fan of teams at this level, one of my socially acceptable responsibilities is to be constructively critical of my favorite teams and the associated personnel. Again, I'm not apologetic about it.

Be that as it may. I'm sure Jimmy Bennett will sleep just fine tonight.
 
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Citing concussions, Fauquier High graduate Kevin Friend abandons NFL dreams
http://www.fauquier.com/news/articl...igh_graduate_kevin_friend_abandons_nfl_dreams

>>A 23-year-old Warrenton native, Friend suffered two concussions during his redshirt senior season with the University of Connecticut football team this past fall. Those injuries were severe enough that the 2009 Fauquier High graduate decided to abandon his plan to pursue a career in professional football. "It was tough," Friend said of his recent decision. "I still kind of second-guess things. … I’m an athlete. I want to compete. That’s my life. Not being able to is awful. "But I started getting these migraines," he said, "and I’d get so dizzy and nauseous. It was unbelievable. That’s when I realized I don’t want to risk my health more."<<

uconn77Feb 06, 7:13pm via Twitter for Android
Officially the oline coach at FHS.
 
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Citing concussions, Fauquier High graduate Kevin Friend abandons NFL dreams
http://www.fauquier.com/news/articl...igh_graduate_kevin_friend_abandons_nfl_dreams

>>A 23-year-old Warrenton native, Friend suffered two concussions during his redshirt senior season with the University of Connecticut football team this past fall. Those injuries were severe enough that the 2009 Fauquier High graduate decided to abandon his plan to pursue a career in professional football. "It was tough," Friend said of his recent decision. "I still kind of second-guess things. … I’m an athlete. I want to compete. That’s my life. Not being able to is awful. "But I started getting these migraines," he said, "and I’d get so dizzy and nauseous. It was unbelievable. That’s when I realized I don’t want to risk my health more."<<

uconn77Feb 06, 7:13pm via Twitter for Android
Officially the oline coach at FHS.

Good for him. He made a wise choice. You don't play around with that.
 
Citing concussions, Fauquier High graduate Kevin Friend abandons NFL dreams
http://www.fauquier.com/news/articl...igh_graduate_kevin_friend_abandons_nfl_dreams

>>A 23-year-old Warrenton native, Friend suffered two concussions during his redshirt senior season with the University of Connecticut football team this past fall. Those injuries were severe enough that the 2009 Fauquier High graduate decided to abandon his plan to pursue a career in professional football. "It was tough," Friend said of his recent decision. "I still kind of second-guess things. … I’m an athlete. I want to compete. That’s my life. Not being able to is awful. "But I started getting these migraines," he said, "and I’d get so dizzy and nauseous. It was unbelievable. That’s when I realized I don’t want to risk my health more."<<

uconn77Feb 06, 7:13pm via Twitter for Android
Officially the oline coach at FHS.

Nothing but the best of all wishes to Coach Friend. It's really too bad that he had to give up on his dream, but on the brightside, he obtained a degree from one of the finest public universities in the land, got to pursue his passion, and is financially no worse for wear. He's also found a way to remain involved with his passion. Something tells me we will see Coach friend at a higher level, a la DJ Hernandez, before too long.
 
http://www.nfl.com/combine

Yawin Smallwood (LB28) Analysis
STRENGTHS
Good size, acceleration and straight-line speed. Plays on his feet and sidesteps blocks. Gets depth in his zone drops and keeps pace with backs in coverage. Highly productive three-year starter. Respected, coachable team captain.
WEAKNESSES
Average eyes and instincts. Does not use his hands violently to take on and discard blocks. Shows some lower-body stiffness. Dull lateral agility. Does not play downhill and can be a step late to the perimeter. Inconsistent run fits and tackling -- too often fails to wrap and drive through ball carriers.
BOTTOM LINE
Productive college middle linebacker at his best when he’s kept clean or has a clear path. Projects best in a 4-3, where he has enough athleticism and functionality in coverage to play in the middle or on the weak side. Has starter-caliber potential, but might be the type you look to replace.

Shamar Stephen (DL45) Analysis
STRENGTHS
Terrific size. Very athletic for a big man. Generally plays on his feet. Occupies blocks. Flashes the ability to lock out and reestablish the line of scrimmage. Has raw tools to work with. Scheme versatile. Solid personal and football character. Team captain.
WEAKNESSES
Lethargic get-off. Average eyes, instincts and recognition (doesn’t sense screen). Needs to go to school on blocking schemes and learn to fight pressure. Could stand to play with more violence in his hands -- feels his way through plays instead of imposing force. Linear, vanilla rusher (just five career sacks). Moved by double teams. Compete level leaves something to be desired. Disappears for stretches.
BOTTOM LINE
Big, athletic, raw interior defender with underachiever traits who had a fairly nondescript career at UConn, but has crude physical tools for a defensive line coach to mold. Developmental prospect who potentially fits in a 4-3 or as a 3-4 five-technique.
 
Yawin and Shamar will be solid pros.

Anyone who drafts Jimmy Bennett should be fired on the spot. Kid struggles mightily with any speed at all, and has had MAJOR injury problems. I'm sure he's a good kid, but if I hear that the Giants draft him in the 7th round or something I'm going to blow a freaking gasket.


Giant's don't have a seventh round pick as it was traded for Beason.

I wouldnt mind him getting a free agent look by the G-Men. I actually hope they invite Greene in as he could help back up inside
 
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