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UConn’s Australian recruit Jacob Furphy on his basketball IQ, chats with Dan Hurley and kangaroos

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Kembafan said:
I feel like we have too many guys who aren’t “athletic” or quick but Murray and Hurley like them because they can shoot and have “high bb iq.” Not to knock furphy it’s just that every time I see a quote from the coaching staff about a recruit it’s about shooting or intelligence. Not “this guy blows past defenders” or “this guy locks up his man on d” or “he’s a rebounding monster.” Just an observation that we seem to be crowding a lot of the same “type.” And take this with the knowledge that I never coached a team to b2b chips.
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You haven’t? WTF dude the rest of us have.
 
Scrutineer said:
Furphy (see link below) is 6'4" and identifies as having a high BB IQ and lacking athleticism. He's on the Aussie FIBA National Team at age 18 and has excelled at all levels as he's grown up in their system. He can dunk with two hands so he's not a stiff and he handles the ball better than anyone on our most recent teams other than maybe CS.

If you watch any of the videos of his games or highlights you'll see a guy who handles the ball better than anyone I recall other than (Shabazz/Boat/Kemba), gets anywhere he wants through traffic, and sees the floor so well he makes great passes as he's driving through defenders.

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The only question is the competition in that series vs what some better recruits face here. How will he look against BE athletes?
 
jibsey said:
He sounds somewhat like a version of Karaban? Would that be a comparison?
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I made a comparison in another thread that the variety of what he can do, maturity, and BBIQ might make it hard for them to keep him off the court, kind of like Karaban his freshman year.
 
So who flew down under to recruit him? And how many times?
 
I believe in this Kid. I just dont see him being a impact player next year. Hopefully he gets Ross level mins and he comes back. Slow , international, freshman , screams adjustment period and freshman wall/slump.
 
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JesusAllen11 said:
I believe in this Kid. I just dont see him being an impact player next year. Hopefully he gets Ross level mins and he comes back. Slow , international, freshman , screams adjustment period and freshman wall/slump.
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You have to have enough PT to even create a slump.
 
Missed wide open 3's, that's why we were eliminated

Wasn't athleticism, Wasn't passing, Wasn't defense, we missed wide open shots and they made contested 3s

In conference play, we had no freedom of movement and league teams know us better
 
He looks like he is 19 going on 22. If he is a connector along the lines of Spencer and because he is not an elite athlete, maybe once he gets here we get to keep him for three or four productive years.
 
SnC will be important for Furphy. Will help improve his athleticism-something he says he wants to work on. Will be interesting to see how he adjusts to the speed of CBB/BE. Brings a toughness that our roster needs.
 
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Kembafan said:
I feel like we have too many guys who aren’t “athletic” or quick but Murray and Hurley like them because they can shoot and have “high bb iq.” Not to knock furphy it’s just that every time I see a quote from the coaching staff about a recruit it’s about shooting or intelligence. Not “this guy blows past defenders” or “this guy locks up his man on d” or “he’s a rebounding monster.” Just an observation that we seem to be crowding a lot of the same “type.” And take this with the knowledge that I never coached a team to b2b chips.
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"bball iq" "gym rat" "great families" - i mean, i get it. at the same time, Andre Jackson and Stephon Castle fit that to a T - and they are incredible athletes.
 
Kembafan said:
I feel like we have too many guys who aren’t “athletic” or quick but Murray and Hurley like them because they can shoot and have “high bb iq.” Not to knock furphy it’s just that every time I see a quote from the coaching staff about a recruit it’s about shooting or intelligence. Not “this guy blows past defenders” or “this guy locks up his man on d” or “he’s a rebounding monster.” Just an observation that we seem to be crowding a lot of the same “type.” And take this with the knowledge that I never coached a team to b2b chips.
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After Cam and TNew, the coaches see a template. Neither of those guys knocked your socks off with heavy athleticism, but both were strong, big guards who were crafty. The kid looks like he has played a lot of high level basketball. The season UCONN was untouchable, it had three of this type guy in Newton, Cam and Karaban. To play the kind of basketball that Hurley wants to play, you need at least a couple of these type guys.
 
knicksin7 said:
"bball iq" "gym rat" "great families" - i mean, i get it. at the same time, Andre Jackson and Stephon Castle fit that to a T - and they are incredible athletes.
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Andre is an incredibly athletic glue guy. Castle is the same with a better offensive game.
 
This is so similar to all the Abraham conversations from last year. There’s just no minutes for him this year, no matter how much Hurley likes him.

Your pgs are set with Demary and Smith, they’re playing every minute.

The wings seem pretty loaded already with Ball/Mullins/Stewart as guaranteed rotation players. Ross came back and Hurley loves him, Adams is an all American despite his physical flaws. This is such an uphill battle for Furphy to beat any of those 5 for playing time as a freshman.

Maybe Furphy fans get lucky and Stewart slides down to the 4, one less wing to battle with. But if Karaban leaves, the expectation is we’ll add another starter, so that leaves Furphy back where he started.
 
Huskyforlife said:
This is so similar to all the Abraham conversations from last year. There’s just no minutes for him this year, no matter how much Hurley likes him.

Your pgs are set with Demary and Smith, they’re playing every minute.

The wings seem pretty loaded already with Ball/Mullins/Stewart as guaranteed rotation players. Ross came back and Hurley loves him, Adams is an all American despite his physical flaws. This is such an uphill battle for Furphy to beat any of those 5 for playing time as a freshman.

Maybe Furphy fans get lucky and Stewart slides down to the 4, one less wing to battle with. But if Karaban leaves, the expectation is we’ll add another starter, so that leaves Furphy back where he started.
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You're making assumptions about his abilities we just don't know. The best players play. If Furphy is better in practice than Stewart or Mullins or Adams (or whoever), then he's playing regardless of the difference in ranking or who the coaches thought would be playing.

Furphy is an unknown. Lule has faith in him. That's all we've got.
 
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husky429 said:
You're making assumptions about his abilities we just don't know. The best players play. If Furphy is better in practice than Stewart or Mullins or Adams (or whoever), then he's playing regardless of the difference in ranking or who the coaches thought would be playing.

Furphy is an unknown. Lule has faith in him. That's all we've got.
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People said this about Abraham and Nowell too. Mullins or Stewart not playing would be a gigantic upset, you can't reasonably project that.
 
The eyeball test for all of these guys and how they play as a team is in November/December.
 
Huskyforlife said:
People said this about Abraham and Nowell too. Mullins or Stewart not playing would be a gigantic upset, you can't reasonably project that.
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You're missing the point. Abraham and Nowell would have played this year if they were the best options. Just because they both ended up being massively overrated doesn't make that false.

If Nowell was ready, he would have been taking Mahaney's minutes. If Abraham was ready he would have been playing over Ross or Stewart or gotten minutes when McNeeley was out.
 
navery12 said:
You're missing the point. Abraham and Nowell would have played this year if they were the best options. Just because they both ended up being massively overrated doesn't make that false.

If Nowell was ready, he would have been taking Mahaney's minutes. If Abraham was ready he would have been playing over Ross or Stewart or gotten minutes when McNeeley was out.
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Keep in mind that Nowell might have been ready if not for multiple injuries that kept him from being available. He didn't have any "wow" moments in the time he played, but he missed a lot of games with injury that almost certainly held him back.
 
I think he's going to be really good. I would be shocked if he's a guy who never sees the floor. I wouldn't be shocked if he's the best freshman in some ways. They mention Cam, but he also reminds me of Tyler Kolek, who supposedly lacked the athleticism to play at this level, but who had off the charts BB IQ.
 
DRBackup said:
Keep in mind that Nowell might have been ready if not for multiple injuries that kept him from being available. He didn't have any "wow" moments in the time he played, but he missed a lot of games with injury that almost certainly held him back.
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Going to VCU tells you it was injuries holding him back. Perhaps with some time and experience.
 
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He'll play. He's been playing against really high talent (older than him, some early pros there, some elite high school players). He can shoot, has really good feel and timing for the game. Shows maturity. Probably gets up to 6'7" and adds muscle so 1/2 Cam 1/2 Liam would be nice.
 
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