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Message: [QUOTE="willtalk, post: 2750497, member: 1220"] This reminds me of an experience I had some years back in a grocery store. How many of us have not given or taken upsee's when one person has a basket full and the other has one or two items. One time I had a few items in my hand and this lady offered the spot in front of her. I thanked her but explained to her that the spot was not hers to offer unless the seven people behind her agreed. So I went to the end of the line. I have often, when noticing a person who it appeared like waiting in line might be a hardship for them, traded places with them. Meaning I gave them my place and took theirs at the end of the line. We do not have the right to be generous with someone else position in line. Unfortunately too many people think of themselves as kind and generous with others peoples metaphoric places in line. Life is like that. More often than not, when we give an advantage it comes at the expense of another. Paul do you really feel qualified to gage an individuals level of suffering? The effort it takes to train to compete at a high level is a sacrifice the individual makes and a form of suffering itself. We are not talking about one second place finish. If this becomes standard and acceptable that second place finish might end up becoming a third fourth or even being eliminated from competing in the finals. These finishes often result in scholarships. Anyone who doesn't believe that the quest for athletic excellence would not drive a considerable percentage of individuals to transgender, is naive. Especially when money, fame or even a scholarship is at stake. I suggest that if people want to help people they think need a hand up, than let they themselves make the necessary sacrifice. If they can't do that then it is not their right ( like that lady in line at the store ) to give. It is very easy to make decisions which will have no negative impact on oneself, and especially tempting when it enhances one's own self image as a kind and generous person. Too many people today are generous with someone else's place in line. [/QUOTE]

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