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I swear this place has become a St John’s fan forum. Admin can we change the template red?!
What? Talk about hyperbole. People need to open their minds. StJ is a league foe, it’s worth talking about how they look during portal. Otherwise this joint become a myopic land of talking about the good old days, which is already way too much.

 
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This is a great point. Talent vs continuity.

The UConn counter is - does Hurley expects leaps that don’t happen?
Its going to be hilarious watching this board talk about the great development job the staff did next year now that the run way is clear for guys like Ross and Stew to take off.

Especially after a summer full of posts like these. Reminds me of how people were weary of Solo last summer.
 
So says only a blue blinder, lol. Vegas certainly doesn’t think so.
St John's has a really good roster, both teams are gonna be top 5. But I'll take our continuity. I'm not surprised the guy who was obsessed with St John's all year and then disappeared when they flamed out is back to talk them up though
 
Do the pieces fit? Sometimes that's more important than the individual talent.

Pitino has always been impatient to win. This reminds me of his Celtics "rebuild" after he was hired as their coach. That didn't work so well. Although Travis Knight thanks him! And he's even more impatient now because he doesn't have a lot of years left. He wants to win NOW.
Or at least get to the second weekend.
 
What? Talk about hyperbole. People need to open their minds. StJ is a league foe, it’s worth talking about how they look during portal. Otherwise this joint become a myopic land of talking about the good old days, which is already way too much.


Another year when the B1G ranks high to start, but continues the championship drought?
 
St John's has a really good roster, both teams are gonna be top 5. But I'll take our continuity. I'm not surprised the guy who was obsessed with St John's all year and then disappeared when they flamed out is back to talk them up though
Am I talking them up? I’m just stating the consensus, they’re loaded.
 
What? Talk about hyperbole. People need to open their minds. StJ is a league foe, it’s worth talking about how they look during portal. Otherwise this joint become a myopic land of talking about the good old days, which is already way too much.


Wow I assumed that was without Karaban but he has us 6th WITH Karaban, crazy.
 
The best transfer classes last year were Kentucky and Arkansas because they didn’t have any players. Kinda easy to offer playing time. Similar with St. John’s this year who just has Ejiofor back.

Will it work? I dunno. And nobody really does. Collectively it’s a really good group of course, but none of the guys they brought in really scare me individually going in. Barney on HIMTM introduced an expression called the cheerleader effect where you see a group of cheerleaders and think “whoa!” - but then when you separate each one, meh. Sort of the case here. You have a guy who has missed 2 years in a row … and had gotten worse in his second year at PC before he was hurt. A “point guard” who shot 330 times and had 30 assists, a guy who was barely in the rotation for a 15-18 USC team, the fourth leading scorer for a 13-20 Arizona State team, and an athletic guy who can’t shoot and doesn’t really block shots or get steals either.

That said, they all have talent and they may all fit together and bring the best out of each other - but then again, they might not. None of those guys like to pass and I think they’ll miss Richmond and Smith’s ability to make their teammates better, but we’ll see. They certainly have potential and if it works, they’ll be tough. No doubt.
 
The best transfer classes last year were Kentucky and Arkansas because they didn’t have any players. Kinda easy to offer playing time. Similar with St. John’s this year who just has Ejiofor back.

Will it work? I dunno. And nobody really does. Collectively it’s a really good group of course, but none of the guys they brought in really scare me individually going in. Barney on HIMTM introduced an expression called the cheerleader effect where you see a group of cheerleaders and think “whoa!” - but then when you separate each one, meh. Sort of the case here. You have a guy who has missed 2 years in a row … and had gotten worse in his second year at PC before he was hurt. A “point guard” who shot 330 times and had 30 assists, a guy who was barely in the rotation for a 15-18 USC team, the fourth leading scorer for a 13-20 Arizona State team, and an athletic guy who can’t shoot and doesn’t really block shots or get steals either.

That said, they all have talent and they may all fit together and bring the best out of each other - but then again, they might not. None of those guys like to pass and I think they’ll miss Richmond and Smith’s ability to make their teammates better, but we’ll see. They certainly have potential and if it works, they’ll be tough. No doubt.
They’re upgrades over last years player quality, and fit the Pitino profile. Though, long and athletic. He’ll have better shooting this year. Pitino turned Luis into a BE PoY.
 
They’re upgrades over last years player quality, and fit the Pitino profile. Though, long and athletic. He’ll have better shooting this year. Pitino turned Luis into a BE PoY.
RJ Luis was going to be an excellent player with or without Pitino, just sayin.
 
What? Talk about hyperbole. People need to open their minds. StJ is a league foe, it’s worth talking about how they look during portal. Otherwise this joint become a myopic land of talking about the good old days, which is already way too much.


Keeping in mind that it is way too early for preseason projections because rosters are definitely not finalized, those rankings aren’t too out of line with Bart Torvik’s projection system. His system currently has us at 14 without Karaban. It puts us at 6 with Karaban, at 8 with Williams, and at 10 with Baba Miller. Again, it’s too early for any of these to matter, but it’s fun for me to look at.


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Are we interested in this kid as a backup 4/5? Maybe even just a roster filler type role. Haven't heard anything about what his plans are. Seems kinda like an Eric Paschall type - dude from Nova's title teams - but less athletic.
 
What? Talk about hyperbole. People need to open their minds. StJ is a league foe, it’s worth talking about how they look during portal. Otherwise this joint become a myopic land of talking about the good old days, which is already way too much.


So we have a chance?
 
Keeping in mind that it is way too early for preseason projections because rosters are definitely not finalized, those rankings aren’t too out of line with Bart Torvik’s projection system. His system currently has us at 14 without Karaban. It puts us at 6 with Karaban, at 8 with Williams, and at 10 with Baba Miller. Again, it’s too early for any of these to matter, but it’s fun for me to look at.


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He still has Adams on the roster so, based on Adams' McD's performance, we might be at 4 or 5 with AK........:rolleyes:
 

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