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gtcam said:
you got zilch
Never intimated that but Dan Hurley had a huge hand in the shortcomings of the team this season
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Roster construction yes. Keep playing your same tired song. I'm no longer listening.
 
NotADime89 said:
Just saw a tweet Pitino is willing to spend between $5-6Mil just for Zuby, Luis, Sanon and Bryce Hopkins. Wild Wild West....
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Mike Repole being a billionaire alum and willing to spend what it takes to put an elite team on the floor certainly helps.
 
gtcam said:
you got zilch
Never intimated that but Dan Hurley had a huge hand in the shortcomings of the team this season
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And by the way you did intimate that. You said he messed up this year(his fault). You also said the previous two years the talent overcame his shortcomings(gives credit to players winning in spite of Hurley).
 
BigErnMcCracken said:
The reality is that any remotely high-profile player in the portal has been receiving overtures all season.
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Yes, mostly through third parties. Street agents talks to “someone” on a staff, gauges interest, discuss nil value, then reaches out to players inner circle. Inner circles receive calls as early as Dec/Jan.
 
Saw that Pop Isaacs went to portal. McDermott has his hands full to build a tournament-worthy team out there.

In other news, Pittsburgh is basically losing everybody. The Diaz-Graham twins and their backup PG portaled, along with a 4-star redshirt soph. Seven open roster spots. Capel has been a disaster.
 
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UCfor3 said:
Roster construction yes. Keep playing your same tired song. I'm no longer listening.
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Even the roster construction had some elements of bad luck. We could probably afford either Diarra being hobbled or Mahaney and Nowell not panning out (at least this year - maybe Nowell will pan out in the long run). But all of that was a perfect storm, and then we threw in our best wing ballhandler being out six weeks, and getting a lesser version of him when he came back (our veteran leader going off the rails for a while wasn't ideal either).

Now, the best teams overcome the little hardships along the way (last year, we lost Castle and Clingan for a while, won at St. John's without Alex, etc). But last year, it felt like it was always sort of one thing at once (other than Kansas, when Spencer was limping while Castle was out) and we had more than enough pieces where we could move people around and overcome it.

To be honest, we almost overcame it this year in due time. The version of Aidan that ended the year was good enough to spell Hass and Solo for 10-15 minutes a night and get us a couple buckets, and Liam in closer to top form might have been enough to have us firmly in contender status. I still can't get past all 3 of our shooters being off, all 3 of Florida's being on, and us still being up 3 at the last media timeout. It wasn't like we hung in there by playing out of our minds. We almost won with our C game on offense.
 
storrsroars said:
Saw that Pop Isaacs went to portal. McDermott has his hands full to build a tournament-worthy team out there.

In other news, Pittsburgh is basically losing everybody. The Diaz-Graham twins and their backup PG portaled, along with a 4-star redshirt soph. Seven open roster spots. Capel has been a disaster.
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Kalk is a huge loss but McDermott always reloads. They lost Nembhard and Kaluma to the portal and Alexander left early and they were just fine. McAndrew is a stud, Zugic should be good in his second season and I think there's a good chance they get both Owen Freeman and Josh Dix. They need a point guard and an athlete to replace Neal. Incoming freshman Hudson Greer should be good and he's athletic.
 
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Pop Isaacs in the portal again, damn that was fast. considering his surgery I'm surprised a team is willing to commit a higher number than Creighton if the reason he's bouncing is over money.
 
Gurleyman said:
Even the roster construction had some elements of bad luck. We could probably afford either Diarra being hobbled or Mahaney and Nowell not panning out (at least this year - maybe Nowell will pan out in the long run). But all of that was a perfect storm, and then we threw in our best wing ballhandler being out six weeks, and getting a lesser version of him when he came back (our veteran leader going off the rails for a while wasn't ideal either).

Now, the best teams overcome the little hardships along the way (last year, we lost Castle and Clingan for a while, won at St. John's without Alex, etc). But last year, it felt like it was always sort of one thing at once (other than Kansas, when Spencer was limping while Castle was out) and we had more than enough pieces where we could move people around and overcome it.

To be honest, we almost overcame it this year in due time. The version of Aidan that ended the year was good enough to spell Hass and Solo for 10-15 minutes a night and get us a couple buckets, and Liam in closer to top form might have been enough to have us firmly in contender status. I still can't get past all 3 of our shooters being off, all 3 of Florida's being on, and us still being up 3 at the last media timeout. It wasn't like we hung in there by playing out of our minds. We almost won with our C game on offense.
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Totally agree. I will take our batting average. Bill Self would also. Hall of fame coach and struggle city last few years. Not an exact science.
 
HooperScooper said:
I'm sure Pitino had no contact with him before the portal opened (cough, cough).
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St. John's gets much-needed 3-point shooting​

Arizona State transfer Joson Sanon announced his commitment to St. John's on Wednesday morning.

While the timing will assuredly raise red flags about the level of communication that happened prior to his entry in the college basketball transfer portal less than 24 hours earlier, what is undeniable is that Sanon will help address St. John's lack of three-point shooting. The Johnies were one of the 25 worst teams in college basketball, both in terms of three-point percentage (30.1%) and in three-pointers attempted (31% of their total shots). Sanon made 37% of his threes, even after finishing the season 14 of his last 58 from behind the arc (which included a 4-5 game vs. Utah).

You would think Pitino would tell him to sit on the decision for a few days and not raise red flags. But nobody seems to care any more. We're in the Wild, Wild West with all this transfer stuff. Just a poor job of implementation by the NCAA. It's a circus, as Hurley said.
 
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gtcam said:
And there lies within the problems this team faced this season.
Bad decisions of who to play and under what situations is an area that deserves low grades.
It is what it is.
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At the start of this season a lot of things had to come together and come together quickly. Additionally there was no room for setbacks. We had too many new pieces plus only one position that was established.

Solo needed more time than was ideal before his defense and rebounding improved. Liam improved his defense relatively early but was significantly worse after his injury. Nowell started the season injured so he missed the early season. It was compounded by his second injury. Samson improved his fouling and rebounding but it was late in the season. Hassan had his knee injury.

The staff missed on a starting point guard but Hassan ended up being more than adequate. The knee injury and not having a reliable backup were the problems. How much of that miss was the result of the handicap the NCAA imposes on teams going deep in the tournament?

Hurley’s technical which I feel set the tone for our results in Maui put tremendous pressure in all the subsequent games. And outside of his inability to control his interaction with the refs contributing to our foul discrepancy I felt the staff did a decent job and got the most out of this group of players as was reasonably possible. Especially given their limitations, inexperience and the pressure to win when we were every bodies championship game.

The only flexibility Hurley had was at the five. And outside of the argument Reed should have started, the staff rotated them to maximize the efficiency for that position. The limitation was this team was a bad passing team reducing that position’s production.

Last season the players, as a group were as good a passing team and the best at anticipating each other’s moves as ever played in college. This year we struggled figuring out how to inbound.

And yet we were one shot away from making the sweet sixteen.
 
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FfldCntyFan said:
Did you see Nowell when he was given playing time this past season? The best pass he threw was one right in the opponent's hands.

There were about a half dozen things going on that you know nothing about. Of greater importance, you're jumping to a conclusion (that because Mahaney seriously underperformed, Nowell had to be a better option) based entirely on conjecture.

Maui hurt this team on many levels, one of them being that it destroyed the confidence that a few players had in their abilities and in some cases things continued to deteriorate. There were also injuries in play, some kept people out of games, others just limited some players slightly.

I can assure you that if any player demonstrated that he belonged on the floor for serious minutes, he would have received serious minutes.
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I'll give the benefit of the doubt that he wasn't 100% healthy. But definitely what little we saw seemed to justify the time he got on the floor.

That doesn't mean he can't develop into a nice player. But I don't think any public evidence out there supports that he should have had more playing time...and I feel good trusting the staff's evaluation of the situation.
 
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noeynox said:
Jeez the Drake coach left after 1 year? This is the poster child for why the portal came to be.
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Brought Stirtz from Division II to Mid-major Drake, now bringing him to P5 (or 4...hard to keep track of this) Iowa. Next year he'll bring him to an NBA team where he'll be the new head coach. :)
 
NotADime89 said:
Just saw a tweet Pitino is willing to spend between $5-6Mil just for Zuby, Luis, Sanon and Bryce Hopkins. Wild Wild West....
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Thats 5-6M is for all 4 players, yes? It’s funny that I need to ask. Is this salary or NIL or both?

How much money do Student Athletes have to make before fans are allowed to boo?
 
One player I’d prioritize:



The 6’5 Wooley averaged 18.8p, 5.2r, 3.6a, 2.2 3PM, 1.4s, 5.1 FTA, 51.2 FG%, 42.2 3P%, 76.9 FT%. Solid defensive metrics too. Was the de facto PG alongside another player who almost had the same assist rate.
 
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Gurleyman said:
Mahaney had 17 in the URI exhibition on 6-9 shooting. Diarra played well off the bench. Seemed like we had good pieces in place. That lasted five games - basically until Memphis punched Aidan in the mouth - and then we made the switch.

Stewart started for 6 weeks with Liam out. And he started a couple games with Alex out. He had his chances to take on a larger role.

As did Nowell. The first guard off the bench role was there for the taking and he didn’t take it. I wanted it to happen, but it just didn’t. He wasn’t ready. I’m tracking point guards in the portal because I saw nothing out of Nowell that leads me to believe he’s capable of getting the keys next year. If he comes back a new player and wins the job over a portal guy, great. I’ll hop on board. But we better get some competition since I didn’t even see flashes out of him where I thought “he’s going to be really good once he figures it out.”

The problem with these arguments is people are creating fictional versions of players. There’s some version of Nowell in people’s heads where he’s Kyle Lowry if only he got more of a chance. Or if we didn’t sign Cam Spencer and played Jayden Ross last year, he’d be All-Big East. It’s hard to argue against a hypothetical. In reality, those guys had chances to step up and didn’t seize them. And if they don’t respond to that challenge, they are probably not the guy we want with the ball in the second half against Florida.
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In all my years on the BY, I've never seen so much discussion about an off-the-bench role player.

Not that I'm without blame for driving the thread train off the tracks, but I feel I have a bad case of Mahaney fatigue.

I'm trying to get up to speed on this thread and hope the discussion aligns closer to its intent.
 
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Is Bryant a good enough job for Kimani or Luke to consider? Can't imagine it would be a bump in pay.
 
superjohn said:
Kalk is a huge loss but McDermott always reloads. They lost Nembhard and Kaluma to the portal and Alexander graduated and they were just fine. McAndrew is a stud, Zugic should be good in his second season and I think there's a good chance they get both Owen Freeman and Josh Dix. They need a point guard and an athlete to replace Neal. Incoming freshman Hudson Greer should be good and he's athletic.
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McDermott has done an amazing job considering Creighton isn't exactly a dream destination. I hope he stays at Creighton. He's great for the Big East. For a none-P-whatever-# conference, we have a bunch of really good coaches. Too bad we couldn't get any teams beyond the first weekend. :(
 
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Hey Adrien! said:
One player I’d prioritize:



The 6’5 Wooley averaged 18.8p, 5.2r, 3.6a, 2.2 3PM, 1.4s, 5.1 FTA, 51.2 FG%, 42.2 3P%, 76.9 FT%. Solid defensive metrics too.
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Nice lefty. Could he play PG?
 
aceboon said:
Pop Isaacs in the portal again, damn that was fast. considering his surgery I'm surprised a team is willing to commit a higher number than Creighton if the reason he's bouncing is over money.
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He received an ‘unvitation’ from Mac.

I also think it’s more likely than not Dix shows, he’s from Council Bluffs and wants to play at or near home.
 
BlueJayFan said:
He received an ‘unvitation’ from Mac.

I also think it’s more likely than not Dix shows, he’s from Council Bluffs and wants to play at or near home.
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ok didn't know that, I figured he was still in the plans since he showed up the tourney games in Louisville
 
Who's paying for all this? If Alabama is putting out $20MM to a dozen or 15 BB/FB players, does that mean 50 or WTV fewer academic or needs based scholarships? Would the fan base notice or care?
 
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