Torvik and Evan Miya top 10 conferences

[shizzle787]

Torvik:

1. Big Ten (.8865)
2. ACC (.8753)
3. SEC (.8664)
4. Big 12 (.8388)
5. Big East (.7771)
6. WCC (.7131)
7. MWC (.6096)
8. A10 (.6008)
9. American (.5723)
10. CUSA (.5090)

Evan Miya:

1. SEC (17.1)
2. Big Ten (16.4)
3. Big 12 (15.0)
4. ACC (14.3)
5. Big East (11.5)
6. WCC (4.0)
7. MWC (3.8)
8. A10 (3.8)
9. American (2.5)
10. MVC (0.3)

This is the lowest (5th) that the Big East has been in years.

The Big East is 3-9 against the P4 this year. It is ugly so far, but very correctable.

The league has six P4 games through next Sunday:

UConn vs. Arizona
Butler vs. South Carolina (MTE)
Xavier vs. Georgia (MTE)
Providence vs. Penn State (Mohegan)
Butler vs. Virgina (MTE)
Xavier vs. WVU/Clemson (MTE)

Other notable games this week:

Marquette vs. Dayton
Xavier vs. Old Dominion
Villanova @ La Salle

We are only going to dig out of the hole one game at a time but I would define a good week as going 4-2 in the P4 games (UConn and Providence both winning and Xavier and Butler going 1-1) and going 3-0 in the other notable games. It is doable. If done, the league would be 7-11 in P4 games going into the Thanksgiving MTEs which is respectable and gets us back on track.

 

[JwittersPAC]

Torvik:

1. Big Ten (.8865)
2. ACC (.8753)
3. SEC (.8664)
4. Big 12 (.8388)
5. Big East (.7771)
6. WCC (.7131)
7. MWC (.6096)
8. A10 (.6008)
9. American (.5723)
10. CUSA (.5090)

Evan Miya:

1. SEC (17.1)
2. Big Ten (16.4)
3. Big 12 (15.0)
4. ACC (14.3)
5. Big East (11.5)
6. WCC (4.0)
7. MWC (3.8)
8. A10 (3.8)
9. American (2.5)
10. MVC (0.3)

This is the lowest (5th) that the Big East has been in years.

The Big East is 3-9 against the P4 this year. It is ugly so far, but very correctable.

The league has six P4 games through next Sunday:

UConn vs. Arizona
Butler vs. South Carolina (MTE)
Xavier vs. Georgia (MTE)
Providence vs. Penn State (Mohegan)
Butler vs. Virgina (MTE)
Xavier vs. WVU/Clemson (MTE)

Other notable games this week:

Marquette vs. Dayton
Xavier vs. Old Dominion
Villanova @ La Salle

We are only going to dig out of the hole one game at a time but I would define a good week as going 4-2 in the P4 games (UConn and Providence both winning and Xavier and Butler going 1-1) and going 3-0 in the other notable games. It is doable. If done, the league would be 7-11 in P4 games going into the Thanksgiving MTEs which is respectable and gets us back on track.

4-2 not going to happen with Xavier and Butler with 4 games between them. My guess 2-4.

 

[NewBlood]

The league is toast. If anyone not named Rick Pitino is at St Johns, they are mid as well. The BIG EAST will be lucky to send 4 teams to the tourney this year (Georgetown?)

We need to get out of this league if we want to stay top tier.

Go 5-1 in the murderous OOC and lose two games MAX in the BE regular season, get a #1 seed in a region

 

[NJHusky]

Is Gtown the third best team? Shaka needs to learn to portal

 

[BigFanCT]

2 bid league

 

[RuffRuff]

The league is toast. If anyone not named Rick Pitino is at St Johns, they are mid as well. The BIG EAST will be lucky to send 4 teams to the tourney this year (Georgetown?)

We need to get out of this league if we want to stay top tier.

Go 5-1 in the murderous OOC and lose two games MAX in the BE regular season, get a #1 seed in a region

Direct but anyone that laughs at this has their head in the sand of Nostalgia Beach. The BE is on a slide that started a couple years ago. The only thing that kept it afloat the last couple years was a handful of super old carryovers like Kalk, Dixon, etc. McDemott and Pitino take off, I hope we are gone by then.

 

[Excalibur]

The league is toast. If anyone not named Rick Pitino is at St Johns, they are mid as well. The BIG EAST will be lucky to send 4 teams to the tourney this year (Georgetown?)

We need to get out of this league if we want to stay top tier.

Go 5-1 in the murderous OOC and lose two games MAX in the BE regular season, get a #1 seed in a region

Anyone who doesn’t accept that this is a dying league is delusional.

 

[Lafayette]

Anyone who doesn’t accept that this is a dying league is delusional.

It's a dying league - elsewhere there is some chit chat of a new ACC / Big East with mostly East Coast teams with a football program. Likely 2028 at earliest I think. Coahk K was interviewed ~1 year ago about Hurley and talked new league type construction chat. Even as much as 10 years ago he wanted it. So from time to time it comes up and makes sense:

1. Copy the SEC best teams with football and keep it local strategy
2. Duke, UNC, NC State, Virginia, UConn, Syracuse, Pittsburgh, Georgetown, Villanova. That's just my list but roughly speaking it would be much more competitive, it could have football - mix of FCB and FBS would have to get sorted, but they all have football.

 

[HuskyHawk]

Direct but anyone that laughs at this has their head in the sand of Nostalgia Beach. The BE is on a slide that started a couple years ago. The only thing that kept it afloat the last couple years was a handful of super old carryovers like Kalk, Dixon, etc. McDemott and Pitino take off, I hope we are gone by then.

As soon as the SEC decided to take basketball seriously (beyond Kentucky and Florida) the writing was on the wall. The top 4 leagues have huge advantages, yes, even the ACC, which is not "doomed" like so many here believe. Big East does still have some good programs and coaches but the current environment doesn't play to their strengths (other than Pitino) of recruiting and developing. Villanova made such a huge error sticking with Neptune and squandering so much program strength during a time when the P4 schools that never much cared decided to care.

 

[JwittersPAC]

It's a dying league - elsewhere there is some chit chat of a new ACC / Big East with mostly East Coast teams with a football program. Likely 2028 at earliest I think. Coahk K was interviewed ~1 year ago about Hurley and talked new league type construction chat. Even as much as 10 years ago he wanted it. So from time to time it comes up and makes sense:

1. Copy the SEC best teams with football and keep it local strategy
2. Duke, UNC, NC State, Virginia, UConn, Syracuse, Pittsburgh, Georgetown, Villanova. That's just my list but roughly speaking it would be much more competitive, it could have football - mix of FCB and FBS would have to get sorted, but they all have football.

I like the teams that would be in the league but no way UNC joins that league since they will get an invite to the P2. Some think Virginia would also get P2 invite as well. That would leave you with only 7 and 2 out of the 7 do not play FBS.

 

[uh-no]

As soon as the SEC decided to take basketball seriously (beyond Kentucky and Florida) the writing was on the wall. The top 4 leagues have huge advantages, yes, even the ACC, which is not "doomed" like so many here believe. Big East does still have some good programs and coaches but the current environment doesn't play to their strengths (other than Pitino) of recruiting and developing. Villanova made such a huge error sticking with Neptune and squandering so much program strength during a time when the P4 schools that never much cared decided to care.

doomed or not...the ACC is in for a world of hurt come next round of negotiations, given schools already want out.

Unless they can become relevant in football, they're not going to command much....especially with the massive amount of dead weight they have in BC, wake, pitt, cuse, cal/stanford. None of the others are dragging that level of anchor.

 

[HooperScooper]

Coahk K was interviewed ~1 year ago about Hurley and talked new league type construction chat.

He was talking about it just this past week again.

Thread 'Coack K/w Jon Rothstein on Hurley, Calhoun & Uconn to ACC'

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Coach K is intrigued by a proposed Big East and ACC merger to create a superconference

Krzyzewski dares leaders from the league to think boldly and hopes leaders in basketball will get with the same program

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[CL82]

We need to get out of this league if we want to stay top tier.

And go where, exactly, given that no P4 conference has chosen to invite us?

 

[boog204]

It's a dying league that has been collectively overrated the last few years. I do think us and St. John's will be high seeds, but this may be a three-bid league with GTown in a 7-10 role. There's just a lot of mediocrity up and down.

 

[JwittersPAC]

It's a dying league that has been collectively overrated the last few years. I do think us and St. John's will be high seeds, but this may be a three-bid league with GTown in a 7-10 role. There's just a lot of mediocrity up and down.

Eventually the Big East men’s basketball could end up like Big East women’s basketball. Good news is that it has not stopped UConn winning championships.

 

[superjohn]

It's a dying league that has been collectively overrated the last few years. I do think us and St. John's will be high seeds, but this may be a three-bid league with GTown in a 7-10 role. There's just a lot of mediocrity up and down.

Overrated the last few years? If anything the league has been underrated and they got screwed on tournament bids and seeding.

 

[KingAG]

Overrated the last few years? If anything the league has been underrated and they got screwed on tournament bids and seeding.

I think you’d be hard pressed to find anyone who thinks the league was underrated last year. 24 the league definitely got screwed

 

[WrenchFan69]

If the Big East remains a distant 5th going forward, we are going to be in a tough spot very soon. Thank god football is doing what it needs to do these days to give us a chance.

 

[boog204]

Overrated the last few years? If anything the league has been underrated and they got screwed on tournament bids and seeding.

Overrated in the sense that despite the view that we were "screwed," outside of us and a Creighton run in 23, we have not fared particularly well as a conference.

25, all teams, including our best, out in the second round. And four of those teams beaten pretty handedly and without much question.

24, our 2 seed beaten by an 11, our 3 needed double OT to beat an 11. 23, our 2 getting upset in the 2nd round, Xavier getting blown out in the 16.

In the "hey day," I always viewed our conference as contenders up and down. I don't view it that way anymore as none of the "other" teams have represented the conference particularly well. Lots of upsets and blowups that actually seem to show that the conference was overseeded. Just my $0.02.

 

[Palatine]

I said when we joined the BE that it would help the BE more than it would help us and they should have paid us to join. I stand by that.

 

[alphasigko]

The league is toast. If anyone not named Rick Pitino is at St Johns, they are mid as well. The BIG EAST will be lucky to send 4 teams to the tourney this year (Georgetown?)

We need to get out of this league if we want to stay top tier.

Go 5-1 in the murderous OOC and lose two games MAX in the BE regular season, get a #1 seed in a region

And to where, pray tell, are we going to go?

 

[NewBlood]

And to where, pray tell, are we going to go?

Don’t know but I would like the Big 10. Big 12 seems the most interested but it is the least interesting to me. ACC would be great for basketball but it’s a weak conference overall as well