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Message: [QUOTE="willtalk, post: 2876456, member: 1220"] While I personally feel the emphasis on this one subject borders on thread hijacking, I feel impelled to respond to Pac12Hoopfan because of some of his previous posts on other sites. He has taken offense at some of my perspectives on the Oregon St team. Most were very general with a few being specific. Those that were specific were actually repeated by Hoopfan on this very thread. Basically that players filling in at the PG position were having problems. Most of those issues were worked out with experience as the season progressed. None of those last season issues even are relevant this season. Anyone reading my posts on this thread should wonder the reasoning for his response. Since this person included in his post that their purpose was to enlighten everyone that about my ignorance and bias in respect to the Oregon St team, I feel a need to respond. Pac12Hoopfan, in his misunderstanding of many of my past posts, has stated that he would follow me around to various sites to correct what he feels are biased attacks on certain players. It seems obvious to me that Hoop seems to not be not defending players but their own fan perspective. Basically Lotrader are on the same page except for one minor difference in respect to one players top end potential this season. I have a lot of respect for his opinion and on that one issue we can agree to disagree once our perspectives are voiced. This should be especially true since the player in question has made major strides in my eyes based on their production at the end of last season. It makes Lotraders perspective more possible if not probable. Unfortunately this has not been possible with Hoop. Pac12 Hoopfan-- isn't it time you stopped Grinding that Ax? I can understand that you are coming from a fans perspective, but that fandom is more directed at certain players than the team as a whole. We all have players we become fans of, I know I have mine. But that should not interfere with objectivity. While there is nothing wrong with fans suspending objectivity. ( fans do all the time ). In some ways it makes the games more enjoyable. It's part of the entire sports fan dynamic. However, we need to know when to drop that sense of fanaticism and return to looking at things objectivity. That is especially true when a fan gets upset when another individual chooses to temporarily suspend fandom for objectivity. We can keep our fan perspectives, but we should not try to force those standards on others. Playing mother hen, especially when it is not called for, does not suit it self to forums where teams and players are evaluated. [/QUOTE]

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