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Message: [QUOTE="willtalk, post: 2876387, member: 1220"] I can certainly understand the perspective you articulate in your first two sentences in support of LoTraders take. I suppose I need to remind or clarify my perspectives. In that context I do not understand what the purpose of your entire second paragraph was about. I basically agree with everything you stated. The entire thing was redundant and has been discussed and beaten to death. You are defending something that needs no defending. This would have only been relevant early last season. Of course you continuing like this is telling. My disagreement with LoTrader and you was that I did not believe that we could at this time assume that Pivec and McWilliams were a lock to be starters. Now understand I never said they would not be starters. In fact it would not be a surprise if it turned out so. Especially now that both Corosdale and Tudor will have late starts due to recovering from operations. Now we might have to wait longer for it to work out. --- It is important to remember that if both Pivec and McWilliams end up starting I would not be wrong, but if they didn't you guys would be. Because I am not committed- frankly I don't know what Scott will do- I tend to lean to the side of caution when not sure. I do have my own opinions, but it does not follow that Scott will have the same perspective. The entire " "Starting thing" is often overrated, especially on teams with a lot of talent. On those type of teams the starting line up is not always filled with the best players. I remember the Celtics great John Havlicek, one of the best of all time, who spent most of his career as the 6th man. Not because he was not good enough to start but because no one could add what he did off the bench. The measure of a player is not if you start but if you are in the line up at the end of close games. One reason I don't see both as a lock is for precisely that reason. There is one player who is totally suited as a 6th man. Of course if a certain freshman player would show those qualities that would negate their need in that role. The best 6th men also can come in at multiple positions. They have to be versatile. Putting a line up together when multiple choices are available opens up variable possibilities. Now in respect to your criticism of my spelling. Yes I am a notoriously bad speller. There are various reasons for this so I just accept it as my lot. The leaving out the Mc in McWilliams was just an oversight of typing. The Pivec was my confusion with the spelling of a 49er TE Celek. I tend to look for distinct patterns and spelling does not seem to cooperate in that respect. As to Gulich I actually have been spelling that correctly but have seen it misspelled a few times recently, so recognizing my deficiency I deferred to them. That along with how people pronounce the name. In German ich is not pronounced like ish. Ich ( means I ) is a sound that most non native Germans have trouble with. They usually say Ik. Now I took quite a few years in German both in high school and college along with spending some years in Germany as well. Enough so that I can pronounce it correctly. I doubt that you or the majority of other Beaver fans can. Not being able to pronounce her name correctly would certainly not impact their perspective on her career. But you seem to think that spelling does. . [/QUOTE]

Verification: First name of men's bb coach