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Maryland has beaten nobody this year. At #9 that is a gift.
This is what happens when you have a poor OOC schedule. Brenda doesn't care, she feels she can beat almost anyone she'll face in the tournament anyways.
 

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But they played UConn better than anyone.
Yeah and lost to Ohio State and played NO ONE in their OOC.
UCLA is a bit of a joke but not really sure else to promote - a lot of teams with back end weighted conference schedules.
 

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This is what happens when you have a poor OOC schedule. Brenda doesn't care, she feels she can beat almost anyone she'll face in the tournament anyways.

No, I think it was a Brenda hedge, like most of the coaches who schedule patsies OOC ... in any sport. About 4 fans and 1 member of the media get around to examining that gaudy won-lost record.
 

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This is what happens when you have a poor OOC schedule. Brenda doesn't care, she feels she can beat almost anyone she'll face in the tournament anyways.
She probably will. I think Terps will be back in the FF unless she gets jobbed and put in UConn's bracket which would really be a shame.
 

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What I continue to be amazed at is that the vast majority of member schools in the NCAA are completely screwed by the over reliance on an brain dead statistical analysis titled RPI, and yet them have never demanded it be scrapped or reworked.

If anyone isn't familiar with how the RPI is calculated, there is a pretty decent explanation here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rating_Percentage_Index

Bonus: Whoever wrote the article uses UConn as one of the example schools.

Point to Ponder Regarding RPI Weakness: There is also an explanation on how losing games against better teams can improve your RPI. And this reminds me of an incident decades ago concerning the Patriots.

I don't remember what year it was but going into the last week of the season, the Pats were in a race with the Baltimore Colts for the last playoff spot. My brother and I attended the Pat's home game against Miami on a very cold afternoon - the Pats barely squeaked by. Because of a fluke in how the NFL set the tie breakers, if the Pats won, it was to the Colts' advantage to lose. The Pats' game ended first. And sure enough, the Colts managed to lose on a blocked punt in their end zone at the game's end.

The NFL revised the tie breaking rules for the following season.

Anyone else happen to remember this?
 
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Maryland has beaten nobody this year. At #9 that is a gift.

Yep: #9 in an early tournament seeding vote (where things like SOS, RPI, etc matter) and the 2nd-3rd best team in the country. Not mutually exclusive.
 

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Unless SC keeps the UConn game to 5-10 pts, Maryland is the third best team in the country (behind ND).
Not gonna happen.
 

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Charlie Creme:
"That produces good SOS rankings, which enhances RPI, which continues to improve when teams get into conference play and start playing one another. It's brilliant scheduling that helps the math and gives the Pac-12 four teams in the RPI top 10."

This is precisely what I've been railing against for a few years now, only it's the SEC, Big 12 and others that have been doing the "brilliant scheduling", or as I like to call it "gaming the system". Sooner rather than later, someone responsible for the RPI needs to sit down and figure out why their RPI ratings don't mesh with reality and if they can't, they need to scrap it altogether.
 

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Something just occurred to me... if Maryland is #9 where on earth is Tennessee. This early release leaves me with more questions than answers.
 
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My biggest concern with this 'early seeding' is that once a team is selected into/out of the top ten are they more likely to remain in/out regardless of actual performance. It happens with the AP and coaches polls all the time.
 

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My biggest concern with this 'early seeding' is that once a team is selected into/out of the top ten are they more likely to remain in/out regardless of actual performance. It happens with the AP and coaches polls all the time.
The interesting aspect of this is that I am sure the committee did not follow its 'outlined' procedure, and I suspect the 'committee' involved in this list was a very small cohort of the eventual full committee that will do the selection and final seeding. Most of the committee members are in the meat of their respective day job responsibilities and if consulted at all mailed in a quick list of their opinions.

So I would say no, this will not be similar to the polls as the process will be very different. And the really weighty questions in ranks 14-20 were left unaddressed, let alone the rankings of 58-70. Those 'who hosts and who just misses' and 'who makes the dance and who just misses' questions were rightfully left out of the conversation.
 
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