Tom Moore ........

[ctchamps]

Oh, he could distinguish it, he just didn't ascribe to it with both the officials and the media.

JC was purposeful in his actions.

Wish I could agree. I never faulted him for taking his approach. As an individual who was diplomatic I felt his behavior was refreshingly honest. However it wasn't without consequence. Although I cannot say with absolute certainty, it would not be a stretch to state that there was a snowball affect on the program because he rubbed Hathaway, Emmert and the press the wrong way.

 

[Sky ball]

Yah eh!?

Is Tom Afraid of the dark?

 

[intlzncster]

Wish I could agree. I never faulted him for taking his approach. As an individual who was diplomatic I felt his behavior was refreshingly honest. However it wasn't without consequence. Although I cannot say with absolute certainty, it would not be a stretch to state that there was a snowball affect on the program because he rubbed Hathaway, Emmert and the press the wrong way.

I think we are arguing different things. You initially said:

JC was unable to distinguish the difference between being diplomatic and being phony ​

I replied:

Oh, he could distinguish it, he just didn't ascribe to it with both the officials and the media. JC was purposeful in his actions.​

So you were saying, he could not distiguish between the two. I argued that he certainly could, he just didn't give a damn, consequences be damned. It hurt us at times, but I do think it helped on the floor, and by being genuine with the kids, thereby building trust. It definitely hurt us with the media, perception of the program, opposing fan bases, and of course, the NCAA.

His ability to determine the difference was evidence by his comments on Calipari and Pitino. He said something along the lines of, "they are both BSers. One believes his own BS. The other is a phony."

JC was sharp as hell; he just dgaf.

 

[Chief00]

JC was unable to distinguish the difference between being diplomatic and being phony at least with respect to basketball. I’m sure he was quite diplomatic with his wife.

JC was well, quite frankly.

 

[ctchamps]

I think we are arguing different things. You initially said:

JC was unable to distinguish the difference between being diplomatic and being phony ​

I replied:

Oh, he could distinguish it, he just didn't ascribe to it with both the officials and the media. JC was purposeful in his actions.​

So you were saying, he could not distiguish between the two. I argued that he certainly could, he just didn't give a damn, consequences be damned. It hurt us at times, but I do think it helped on the floor, and by being genuine with the kids, thereby building trust. It definitely hurt us with the media, perception of the program, opposing fan bases, and of course, the NCAA.

His ability to determine the difference was evidence by his comments on Calipari and Pitino. He said something along the lines of, "they are both BSers. One believes his own BS. The other is a phony."

JC was sharp as hell; he just dgaf.

Chief said politics. I said diplomacy. JC felt both were bs. He absolutely gave a f. Anything other than raw bluntness was phony in his opinion. I’m stating one can be true to oneself and not necessarily be confrontational. There are better and worse ways of being honest. I admired his brutal honesty but it had negative consequences.

 

[Chief00]

Wish I could agree. I never faulted him for taking his approach. As an individual who was diplomatic I felt his behavior was refreshingly honest. However it wasn't without consequence. Although I cannot say with absolute certainty, it would not be a stretch to state that there was a snowball affect on the program because he rubbed Hathaway, Emmert and the press the wrong way.

Lew Perkins and Harry Hartley were two administrators who got along splendidly with Jim Calhoun. But, agree about Hathaway and Emmett. Personally, Chief saw Emmett as a dishonesty phony too and considered Hathaway a bureaucrat.
I really do think Calhoun admires the diplomacy traits Tom has - not that he would want to adopt them for himself LOL. Because that’s not who he is. He did jokingly call him the “politician” which to him meant the same thing as diplomatic.
Many saw George Blaney as a calming influence too, perhaps because Calhoun respected him, could relate to his Irish Jersey City type background and he kept his cool. That created a good bench balance. I think Calhoun saw George as brilliantly analytical and contrary to the belief of some posters - if it was a NCAA tournament game - George NOT Glen Miller would do the scouting report.

 

[intlzncster]

Lew Perkins and Harry Hartley were two administrators who got along splendidly with Jim Calhoun. But, agree about Hathaway and Emmett. Personally, Chief saw Emmett as a dishonesty phony too and considered Hathaway a bureaucrat.
I really do think Calhoun admires the diplomacy traits Tom has - not that he would want to adopt them for himself LOL. Because that’s not who he is. He did jokingly call him the “politician” which to him meant the same thing as diplomatic.
Many saw George Blaney as a calming influence too, perhaps because Calhoun respected him, could relate to his Irish Jersey City type background and he kept his cool. That created a good bench balance. I think Calhoun saw George as brilliantly analytical and contrary to the belief of some posters - if it was a NCAA tournament game - George NOT Glen Miller would do the scouting report.

Don't undersell George's ability to coach and teach players (especially the bigs). When JC was out, George stepped right in seamlessly to success. We're they quite as good? Of course not. No one can match JC's will. Not Coach K, not anybody (maybe Bill Belichick).

But George thought of things as a head coach that maybe Calhoun, in his stubbornness, overlooked. Wasn't it George who discovered Marcus White was a rebounding monster in game, and thrived in that role? JC then inevitably played him the rest of the year. I recall something like that. Might have been somebody else.

 

[Edward Sargent]

I've met with Jack MacDonald several times. He was the AD at Quinnipiac who hired Tom. Nothing but great things to say about him.