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To AD Dave: The New Big East Is Not the Old Big East

But the AAC isn’t a Legacy League. It didn’t get the benefit of the doubt like the Big a East does. The Big East and Indiana seem to always get the benefit of the doubt in selections AND in seedings. So as I said UConn doesn’t need to be very good to get bids as an AAC team does. It just needs to be decent and get a legacy bid.
 
freescooter said:
But the AAC isn’t a Legacy League. It didn’t get the benefit of the doubt like the Big a East does. The Big East and Indiana seem to always get the benefit of the doubt in selections AND in seedings. So as I said UConn doesn’t need to be very good to get bids as an AAC team does. It just needs to be decent and get a legacy bid.
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Head to head out of conference wins are a lot more important than Legacy.
 
Many of those league title games listed were on CBS. The default network for NCAA hoops. Also gets a great lead in from the Big Ten semi finals for the MWC title game. Fox is still finding it's footing for hoops viewers. Helps now having the Big Ten on FS1.
 
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freescooter is about as delusional as the old Big East Homer poster from years ago on csnbbs. When did you guys legalize weed in CT?
 
Butch said:
Problem is Providence has more history in the postseason than a good percentage of AAC schools. Having a public blue blood school like UConn with a rabid national following should change the profile of the conference a bit.
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Having a large public school playing in basically HS gyms against small private schools a good thing? Taking UConn games out the AAC WCBB games had higher attendance. And as a CT taxpayer a $17million dollar buyout on top of the $10+ million athletic department loss in 2019 is a bit much.
History like Houston, Cincinnati, Memphis?
 
Nick Pignatello said:
Having a large public school playing in basically HS gyms against small private schools a good thing? Taking UConn depaulgames out the AAC WCBB games had higher attendance. And as a CT taxpayer a $17million dollar buyout on top of the $10+ million athletic department loss in 2019 is a bit much.
History like Houston, Cincinnati, Memphis?
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What decade are you living in?
 
Duncan Idaho said:
What decade are you living in?
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The key may be to have UConn Men's BB get back to elite status while in the New Big East. Also, have Edsall or his replacement get the FB team back to a winning record, if not better, as an Independent. Then lets bolt for ACC or other P5 ASAP.
 
Nick Pignatello said:
This one. Name a false statement?
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Nick you are making it sound like they will be playing in Alumni, Walsh or McDonough, geez. And its not the league of coaches and ESPN anymore. The only public flagship in either conference makes for an odd duck.
 
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Duncan Idaho said:
Nick you are making it sound like they will be playing in Alumni, Walsh or McDonough, geez. And its not the league of coaches and ESPN anymore. The only public flagship in either conference makes for an odd duck.
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Where will they play the BE games, on campus gyms. The AAC public schools, large mostly building programs in most sports. The UConn football program should downsize to play FCS type schools. The move to the NBE is done. $17million!
 
Duncan Idaho said:
Nick you are making it sound like they will be playing in Alumni, Walsh or McDonough, geez. And its not the league of coaches and ESPN anymore. The only public flagship in either conference makes for an odd duck.
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I know you are using the term "flagship" but I don't think that is a meaningful distinction. I think there are only 4 flagship fbs programs in the G5:
UConn, UMass, New Mexico, Wyoming

There are plenty of large public research universities in D1 which have more in common with UConn than the Big East:
Cincy, Temple, UCF, USF, Houston, are all overall more similar to UConn than the Big East schools. The location of the AAC definitely made us an odd duck. In terms of basketball, I don't think it matters as much, although outside of Duke and Villanova, most champions are large public.
 
Why does it matter where they play? The Big East doesn't have revenue sharing like Big Ten football. The more important consideration is the attractiveness of the matchups, and the NBE is far more attractive than the AAC. There are 3 NBE teams ranked including UConn, whereas the AAC has 1. The TV contract is also better in terms of pay, I believe, and definitely in terms of televised exposure versus frequently behind a paywall.
Also, you know the athletic department "loss" is an accounting thing, right? There are a variety of factors that go into it, including the payment of Civic Center rent from UConn to the CRDA, essentially passing money between CT departments. They also consider the "lost" revenue of scholarships, charging the full cost of the scholarship against the school.
 
Fairfield_1st said:
Why does it matter where they play? The Big East doesn't have revenue sharing like Big Ten football. The more important consideration is the attractiveness of the matchups, and the NBE is far more attractive than the AAC. There are 3 NBE teams ranked including UConn, whereas the AAC has 1. The TV contract is also better in terms of pay, I believe, and definitely in terms of televised exposure versus frequently behind a paywall.
Also, you know the athletic department "loss" is an accounting thing, right? There are a variety of factors that go into it, including the payment of Civic Center rent from UConn to the CRDA, essentially passing money between CT departments. They also consider the "lost" revenue of scholarships, charging the full cost of the scholarship against the school.
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Football drives the bus.
 
All major conferences have private schools. The Big East is unique in that private schools reconfigured the conference and then expanded keeping the profile as a majority of private schools (9-2).

Stanford, Duke, ND, Nova, BC, Baylor, etc. even the AAC has its private schools.

There are “flagship” schools that are powerhouses athletically, and others that are not. It isn’t the best way to group programs. UConn has the best athletic programs of all of the New England flagship universities, but that doesn’t mean much. Being a Big East conference member holds more athletic prestige than being a flagship.
 
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Zissou said:
All major conferences have private schools. The Big East is unique in that private schools reconfigured the conference and then expanded keeping the profile as a majority of private schools (9-2).

Stanford, Duke, ND, Nova, BC, Baylor, etc. even the AAC has its private schools.

There are “flagship” schools that are powerhouses athletically, and others that are not. It isn’t the best way to group programs. UConn has the best athletic programs of all of the New England flagship universities, but that doesn’t mean much. Being a Big East conference member holds more athletic prestige than being a flagship.
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The B1G is probably the best structured conference because it is all public universities plus Northwestern. UConn has the best athletic programs of all flagships in New England plus NY and NJ. The only public university in the Big East, 10-1. Being a state flagship brings the athletic prestige which allows it to join a good athletic conference, whether it's the Big East or other.
 
UMass, Maine, URI, Vermont, Delaware are all flagships....but not athletic powerhouses..
 
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Zissou said:
All major conferences have private schools. The Big East is unique in that private schools reconfigured the conference and then expanded keeping the profile as a majority of private schools (9-2).

Stanford, Duke, ND, Nova, BC, Baylor, etc. even the AAC has its private schools.

There are “flagship” schools that are powerhouses athletically, and others that are not. It isn’t the best way to group programs. UConn has the best athletic programs of all of the New England flagship universities, but that doesn’t mean much. Being a Big East conference member holds more athletic prestige than being a flagship.
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In one sport, one team
 
billybud said:
UMass, Maine, URI, Vermont, Delaware are all flagships....but not athletic powerhouses..
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Well, there's hockey.

Most athletic powerhouses are public universities, but not all public universities are athletic powerhouses.
 
Palatine said:
Football drives the bus.
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AAC Football Bus

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Ahhh...the breeze of fandom is wafting through this thread like perfume at a prom.
 
Nick Pignatello said:
U Conn's bus as supplied by the athletic department. AAC usually has multiple teams ranked every year including 1 in the top 10.
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The AAC having teams ranked and $2.34 will get you a medium coffee at Dunkin but not much else.
 
UConn has 3 or 4 P5 games scheduled per year which is impressivel. Mixing in some ACC, B1G, SEC, MAC along with Independents and other regional games has a lot more appeal than being in the AAC and should help recruiting. I see UCF and Temple but no other AAC programs so it seems that must be intentional.
 
The AAC has , maybe, the largest of the G5 media contracts......the biggest helping at the kiddie table....$7 million per school.
 
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