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Message: [QUOTE="DefenseBB, post: 2691003, member: 7492"] Mine was more the joke that you actually referenced Clemson as being a threat to Virginia recruiting (though actually it was statement of fact not really a joke per se'). I have highlighted and italicized above as I would ask you and others who lament about Virginia "getting back" to their glory days to understand their last one was 1999-2000 the year they won their last ACC Conference title. Since then, blah....so even Debbie Ryan was given quite a few years of downright pedestrian results before hanging it up and at that point was Virginia still a desired spot for recruits to go? I would argue the damage was already done. Virginia is not Tennessee with 8 titles and loads of All-Americans and All-SEC players. I am hard pressed to name even someone else besides Dawn that I know was a star at Virginia. Reviewing Ms. Ryan's record reminds me of another ACC coach who is well past their prime and is essentially just running time of the clock while Nero fiddles. This reminds me, perhaps Muffet should decide to go out on top and retire this year. It's a feel good story...:rolleyes: You bring up an interesting point on the locale aspect of recruiting. I personally don't think any P5 program worth their salt and wants to regularly vie for Sweet 16 and beyond needs to recruit their backyard unless they're in Texas (which is a very big back yard). All others need to recruit nationally. I mean, this isn't football with 85 scholarships or Baseball/Softball with 25 roster spots that you need to recruit your backyard for depth. This is basketball with 3 spots (at most) per year to get you to your 12 person roster. If you are requiring these to come from your backyard, you are probably in trouble. Again, the elite prospects in anyone's backyard will still go to the elite programs. Does Virginia still have cache' to become elite? [/QUOTE]

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