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Doggie Style said:
Can't disagree with anything in this article. However, Going to Boyle now does nothing but sends him running for his life, Shakes his confidence , and possibly gets him hurt on account of this terrible offensive line. If we had a running game and some blocking, it would be a different conversation, but then again probably wouldn't be happening then either because Whitmer would be looking a lot better if he had that support.I agree with the article, Whitmer is def not in the top 3 problems with this team, changing the QB now does nothing but eliminate a year of potential for Boyle and Uconn football.
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Boyle would likely be able to use his athleticism to run the little option play coach seems to like. He also might have better vision due to his size, and his armstrength is at least equal. He'd make some plays. But bottom line he is a freshman and any attempt to catch lightning in a bottle could end up with him getting his bell rung due to inexperience, along with the likely timing issues and misreads leading to more inconvenient interceptions. If you're desperate to turn things around or save your job please give Casey a shot. He's a smart kid, bigger than Chandler and threw plenty in HS. And like Pal said has a year in the system. I see more risk than reward here.

I forgot this is an unbelievable discussion. We'll see.
 
Let's be honest if there's anyone who should be replaced it's every OLineman not named Steve Greene.

I can't for the life of me believe that Boyle is that much better than Whitmer that he's going to save the reason in spite of the OL play.

Keep the RS on the kid. After the Buffalo game a quarter of the season is gone.
 
Palatine said:
Why bypass Casey? He could go in right now. He knows the system. Why jump over him to Boyle? This is one of Pasqualoni's biggest flaws. He has no idea what his personnel can do because he never puts them in game situations. Casey could be the next Russel Wilson but P will never know because he never put him in a game
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By that logic Paul Nowekji could be the next Tony Boselli.
 
FrostyNuggets said:
By that logic Paul Nowekji could be the next Tony Boselli.
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Exactly, without putting players into games, there is no meaningful way to evaluate them.

We sat Marcus Easley for three years, we put him into a game and found out he was the best WR on the team.
 
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Palatine said:
Exactly, without putting players into games, there is no meaningful way to evaluate them.

We sat Marcus Easley for three years, we put him into a game and found out he was the best WR on the team.
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Do you have any compulsion to be factual, or are you just happy to make stuff up? if you bothered to check, Marcus Easley played in 12 games in 2008. He even started in 4 of them. He also played in a couple in 2007. Just because you want to pretend that Edsall ignored him for 4 years, and pretend that every player who is sitting on the bench is a potential pro prospect doesn't make it fact. The fact is that coaches always evaluate players based on practice. They make virtually all playing time decisions based on how a guy performs in practice. Every now and again, a guy who has been hanging around on the bench goes in and makes a huge impact, but those are the exceptions, not the rule. That's why those stories are big news. And just to clear up the record again, Marcus Easley was not one of those guys. Go back and look at the statistics. He played 12 games and started in several. Once in a while it just clicks, too.
 
freescooter said:
Do you have any compulsion to be factual, or are you just happy to make stuff up? if you bothered to check, Marcus Easley played in 12 games in 2008. He even started in 4 of them. He also played in a couple in 2007. Just because you want to pretend that Edsall ignored him for 4 years, and pretend that every player who is sitting on the bench is a potential pro prospect doesn't make it fact. The fact is that coaches always evaluate players based on practice. They make virtually all playing time decisions based on how a guy performs in practice. Every now and again, a guy who has been hanging around on the bench goes in and makes a huge impact, but those are the exceptions, not the rule. That's why those stories are big news. And just to clear up the record again, Marcus Easley was not one of those guys. Go back and look at the statistics. He played 12 games and started in several. Once in a while it just clicks, too.
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You believe that Marcus was given meaningful minutes or that he had a real chance. What were you watching?
 
Palatine said:
You believe that Marcus was given meaningful minutes or that he had a real chance. What were you watching?
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Yeah, really, how many times was he targeted. Easly his jr. year was primarily used as a blocker.
 
Best players should be playing regardless if they are a true freshman or a fifth year senior.

You try to win now not next year, because there may not be a next year.
 
uconnbill said:
Best players should be playing regardless if they are a true freshman or a fifth year senior.

You try to win now not next year, because there may not be a next year.
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In this case, no way. We are not in a great recruiting area. If we have the two most important skill positions loaded with talent and eligibility, we are in a much better position to lure a great coach.
 
Hoophound said:
In this case, no way. We are not in a great recruiting area. If we have the two most important skill positions loaded with talent and eligibility, we are in a much better position to lure a great coach.
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You aren't going to lose a coach over Boyle being a soph instead of a redshirt freshman.
 
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whaler11 said:
You aren't going to lose a coach over Boyle being a soph instead of a redshirt freshman.
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I don't think so either but I see no benefit of wasting his red shirt this year. I see a few benefits of holding him out, creating a great opportunity for a coach being one of them. Four years of Boyle and Newsome is attractive.

Cough, cough, Petrino, cough, cough.
 
Hoophound said:
I don't think so either but I see no benefit of wasting his red shirt this year. I see a few benefits of holding him out, creating a great opportunity for a coach being one of them. Four years of Boyle and Newsome is attractive.

Cough, cough, Petrino, cough, cough.
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Like Petrino would be worried who the QB was in his 4th year? He would assume he could over-recruit him and would have no intention of staying 4 years.

The benefit is that they can still realistically win 6 games because the schedule is so weak from here out. If he helps win those 6 games play him.
 
I would prefer to preserve Boyle for next year as I don’t want to see him decapitated playing for a GDL offensive line. Need to keep Boyle in once piece for the future (hopefully without the PP and GDL show). That is also why I am concerned that if Boyle is the best QB on the roster, PP will throw him in and risk Boyle’s future just so that PP and cave his and GDL’s neck.
 
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Mr. Conehead said:
I would prefer to preserve Boyle for next year as I don’t want to see him decapitated playing for a GDL offensive line. Need to keep Boyle in once piece for the future (hopefully without the PP and GDL show). That is also why I am concerned that if Boyle is the best QB on the roster, PP will throw him in and risk Boyle’s future just so that PP and cave his and GDL’s neck.
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... and what if the "next coach" decides to move away from a pro-style QB??

IMHO - Sitting him to keep him eligible for an additional year down the road is a disservice to TB (not buying the "we must protect him from his porous o-line for his own good" argument. They all know what they are getting into when they sign a NLI.
 
huskymedic said:
... and what if the "next coach" decides to move away from a pro-style QB??

IMHO - Sitting him to keep him eligible for an additional year down the road is a disservice to TB.
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God, I sure hope our next coach doesn't start from scratch again. We have a big, talented QB from CT and I want him to play. I'm not sure we should hire someone that doesn't like Boyle as an asset. We haven't had a QB with that much potential in 10 years.
 
Hoophound said:
God, I sure hope our next coach doesn't start from scratch again. We have a big, talented QB from CT and I want him to play. I'm not sure we should hire someone that doesn't like Boyle as an asset. We haven't had a QB with that much potential in 10 years.
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Okay so now the BY wants to tell WM he can only hire a coach that will only utilize a pro-style offense so the untested prodigal son gets a chance to play next year? Not poking you in the eye Hoop but see where I'm going?
 
No, I think he needs to hire a coach that sees what he has to work with and uses it. With Boyle and Newsome on our roster, would you hire a coach that wants to use an option QB?

I think Warde sees that we have a few good assets at key positions and will look for a guy that can use them as part of his plan. I don't want to rebuild for 3 years, I want to hit the ground running next year. Another "rebuild" will kill this program once and for all.
 
Hoophound said:
No, I think he needs to hire a coach that sees what he has to work with and uses it. With Boyle and Newsome on our roster, would you hire a coach that wants to use an option QB?

I think Warde sees that we have a few good assets at key positions and will look for a guy that can use them as part of his plan. I don't want to rebuild for 3 years, I want to hit the ground running next year. Another "rebuild" will kill this program once and for all.
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I would want to hire a coach that has a succinct vision for the program for the future, produces consistent, consecutive winning seasons w/ lots and lots a bowls and does it in an ethical manner. What offensive/defensive scheme they want to use is not my concern as long as it produces results. Not artificial road blocks to getting the best candidate/fit.

I would imagine we all want to hit the ground running after a coaching change - but there may be a bump or two or three when that happens and current personnel may be collateral damage. Happens @ most programs.
 
huskymedic said:
I would want to hire a coach that has a succinct vision for the program for the future, produces consistent, consecutive winning seasons w/ lots and lots a bowls and does it in a ethical manner. What offensive/defensive scheme they want to use is not my concern as long as it produces results. I would imagine we all want to hit the ground running after a coaching change - but there may be a bump or two or three when that happens and current personnel may be collateral damage. Happens @ every program.
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I can't argue with that. I just hope that guy you describe thinks Boyle and Newsome are the answers because we already have them.

I know what you are saying and I think you get what I'm saying.
 
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Hoophound said:
No, I think he needs to hire a coach that sees what he has to work with and uses it. With Boyle and Newsome on our roster, would you hire a coach that wants to use an option QB?

I think Warde sees that we have a few good assets at key positions and will look for a guy that can use them as part of his plan. I don't want to rebuild for 3 years, I want to hit the ground running next year. Another "rebuild" will kill this program once and for all.
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To build on that, UConn’s next football coach has to be flexible enough to adapt the offense and defense based on the skills that the players bring to the table and the teams that UConn is playing. The inability to do so is one of the biggest negative issues that PP has going.
 
Hoophound said:
No, I think he needs to hire a coach that sees what he has to work with and uses it. With Boyle and Newsome on our roster, would you hire a coach that wants to use an option QB?

I think Warde sees that we have a few good assets at key positions and will look for a guy that can use them as part of his plan. I don't want to rebuild for 3 years, I want to hit the ground running next year. Another "rebuild" will kill this program once and for all.
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McHugh and the CT HS Coaches assn. thank you for your support.

The pro style O has been gangbusters for us.
 
I am not a fan of playing a true freshmen, but I do agree CW has shown us the best we are going to see of him. I don't think he is all that bad, and the O-line and coaching are killing him. However, even in the best situations, he seems to be incapable of putting together more than one or two good passes in a row. He often runs/slides into sacks, and as we all know....he has never seen a receiver in triple-coverage he didn't like.

The season isn't over, though the outlook is grim. We could still win the conference and go to a BCS Bowl. This won't happen under Coach Pee, but people forget the run we went one to make it to the Fiesta just a few seasons ago. Too early for talk of flushing the season. Too soon to put a true freshmen under center.
 
Hoophound said:
I can't argue with that. I just hope that guy you describe thinks Boyle and Newsome are the answers because we already have them.

I know what you are saying and I think you get what I'm saying.
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The problem with this "analysis" is that neither Boyle nor Newsome have taken a single snap at the college level. Newsome has yet to take a snap in a college practice for that matter. Now either or both might be great players. Boyle might be the next Orlovsky or even the next Steve Young for all we know. And right now he is obviously the best on the team since he's the backup and we all know that the backup quarterback is always the best player on a losing team. Newsome might be a great player, too. But BYU's defense is might be tougher than Torrington High School's so we might want to wait before awarding him the Heisman. I'm not saying he won't be the answer, just that we maybe should wait before anointing him. We beat out some pretty good programs for both these guys so that is hopeful. And one of the biggest beefs I have with Pasqualoni has been that he failed to fit his system to the personnel he had, but insisted on using a system that wasn't well suited for the players available. I hope that the next coach doesn't take that approach. If he's a run and gun guy, but sees he has an above average pocket passer he adapts rather than trying to put a square peg into a round hole.
 
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