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The addition of 'European' citizenship is also a huge boost to potential professional earnings - the European teams limit the number of non-'European' players on the teams and having American talent that does not count against those caps is a bonus. Sue has dual US and Israeli citizenship I believe, and I think DT also has dual citizenship.Good for Tiffany! The fact that I can actually write that is a sign that I am getting softer and wiser (Maybe?). When Becky Hammon suited up for Russia in 2012 I was vehemetly opposed. I did not go so far as to call her a traitor but I was opposed. That was Russia and this is Azerbaijan but and what caused me to change my mind about the situation is two things 1) For the most part Tiffany and Becky weren't going to make the US olympic anyway 2) Those other countries are putting more money into the pockets of WNBA player that the US is currently willing to do. If and when a country like Russia starts offering our top players (DT, MM, CP, BG) money to roll with them in the Olympics or world championships not sure how I would feel about that scenario.
Apparently Tiff gets Azerbaijan citizen as part of the process. This increases Tiff earning power overseas where there are limits on the number of Americans than can be on any single team.I can understand anyone wanting to be in the Olympics, but to miss 5 WNBA games to play 3 on 3 for Azerbaijan at the European Games? Am I missing something?
Good for Tiffany! The fact that I can actually write that is a sign that I am getting softer and wiser (Maybe?). When Becky Hammon suited up for Russia in 2012 I was vehemetly opposed. I did not go so far as to call her a traitor but I was opposed. That was Russia and this is Azerbaijan but and what caused me to change my mind about the situation is two things 1) For the most part Tiffany and Becky weren't going to make the US olympic anyway 2) Those other countries are putting more money into the pockets of WNBA player that the US is currently willing to do. If and when a country like Russia starts offering our top players (DT, MM, CP, BG) money to roll with them in the Olympics or world championships not sure how I would feel about that scenario.
To start - just a clarification - they do not trade their US citizenship but become dual nationality - something that was almost impossible for US citizens until quite recently. The only thing that they do 'trade away' is the ability to represent the US in future international competitions in their sport - something that most if not all who have followed this path were unlikely to be selected for anyway.So, what was your opposition based upon if you did not at least believe Ms Hammon to be a traitor? Epiphanny Prince took a lot of flack here also.
Hopefully, you will not be alone in confessing previous opposition only to have now become softer and wiser.
It would also be nice to hear from those still opposed to Americans trading away their citizenship to participate in the Olympics/play for foreign national teams.
dual citizenship is a bizarre concept..if two countries are at odds, would the citizen be charged as a traitor? BTW, Qatar already fields its soccer teams/track and field team/basketball team with blacks from Africa.
White people blend in there....Arabs are considered Caucasian as well!Since race seems to be more important to you than nationality, Qatar also recruits white athletes from Europe.
White people blend in there....Arabs are considered Caucasian as well!
No Rutgers grudges here DaddyChoc. Prince was in HS when this happened nothing to do with Rutgers. Wilt was a grown man getting paid to play so let's not put him in this conversation. Maya's 40 against Syracuse was apt payback for rough play. Lisa Leslie was equally wrong for dropping 101 in HS and so was Cheryl Miller for dropping 105. The adults (coaches specifically) league officials that allow this to happen where even more wrong. I believe in sportsmanship & respecting the game & opponent. In these specific instances Lisa, Cheryl, and Epiphanny displayed neither.seriously? how you feel about Lisa Leslie, Wilt, Denham Brown... shoot, even Maya's 40 against Syracuse!
* happens... its not like she wasn't in High School, she was playing against her peers
lets those Rutgers grudges go
How long? Already started.2. It is a further professionalization of the Olympics. How long before a country like Qatar decides to spend a billion dollars (chump change for them) to field an Olympic squad with not a single arabic speaker that wins gold medals in various sports?
thanks... for blaming the adults. but to carry that dislike 10yrs later, hate to know how you may dislike those who personally rubbed you the wrong way over the yrs.No Rutgers grudges here DaddyChoc. Prince was in HS when this happened nothing to do with Rutgers. Wilt was a grown man getting paid to play so let's not put him in this conversation. Maya's 40 against Syracuse was apt payback for rough play. Lisa Leslie was equally wrong for dropping 101 in HS and so was Cheryl Miller for dropping 105. The adults (coaches specifically) league officials that allow this to happen where even more wrong. I believe in sportsmanship & respecting the game & opponent. In these specific instances Lisa, Cheryl, and Epiphanny displayed neither.
Personally I'd blame the coaches (adults) in those cases. I could see where a kid might get caught up in the moment, but the coach should have just sat them down.No Rutgers grudges here DaddyChoc. Prince was in HS when this happened nothing to do with Rutgers. Wilt was a grown man getting paid to play so let's not put him in this conversation. Maya's 40 against Syracuse was apt payback for rough play. Lisa Leslie was equally wrong for dropping 101 in HS and so was Cheryl Miller for dropping 105. The adults (coaches specifically) league officials that allow this to happen where even more wrong. I believe in sportsmanship & respecting the game & opponent. In these specific instances Lisa, Cheryl, and Epiphanny displayed neither.
There are several, first and foremost you must have a good outside shot. Rebounds, steals and assists to turn over ratio is also very important. The challenge but UCONN woman have no problem, you must be able to pronounce the country's name in interviews.Does anyone know what the qualifications are to play for a country other than the one that you are born in? It says that she got her citizenship in Azerbaijan but what does she need to do to actually get it?
I respect your opinion and would not try to classify it as non-sense. Those people you mentioned are mostly there as foreign workers, not representing Qatar in their international affairs, or in their national sports teams.Please, no more of this nonsense. You talk about blending in, in a country that has a population that consists of almost 90% foreign workers (Indian, Filipino, Nepalis,
Egyptians, etc.). There are many more Kenyans and Nigerians in Qatar than Russians or Germans. One of Qatar's three ethnic groups are descended from people brought as slaves from East Africa. I think blacks from Africa blend in as well as anyone. Of course "blending in" is never really the point.