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Thoughts on the WWC?

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USA still the favorites despite the injuries? What about England? Your thoughts? Full disclosure, I am under pressure to make a beer bet.
 
It will be tough for the USA to 3-peat. Lots of injuries. However, England has some injuries too. Spain is missing quite a few players due to conflict between players and their FA. Not sure Sweden is as strong as they used to be. Canada is fighting with their FA for funds. Ummm, Japan and Australia might be good picks.
 
The Euros seem to be moving forward partly because the English League is well resourced. What's a shame is how Mexico has failed to make the World Cup despite some pretty good soccer being played in the Liga MX Femenil. The constant coaching changes and lack of leadership has been a disaster.
 
Sam Kerr out with calf muscle injury for an expected couple of games.
 
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USA, Canada and England should be clear favorites but the Australians could benefit from home cooking
 
I did not watch the game but that New Zealand goal was impressive.
 
RSTuthill said:
I did not watch the game but that New Zealand goal was impressive.
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A great save by the goalie stopped an impressive shot by Paige Riley ( I believe) as well. And Ria Percival sailed a shot over the crossbar on a penalty kick. New Zealand easily could have won 3-0.

I will be watching the US vs Vietnam tonight in a soccer bar close to me.
 
The time difference is brutal. Luckily they’ve given the US market a nice 9pm game tonight and vs Netherlands.
 
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Well, back in the day, the USWNT could not beat a prep school boys team. The quality today 24 years later is much higher.
 
Good match and finish this morning between Denmark and China. USWMNT looked sloppy last night but nice performance by Sophia Smith.
 
HCCForever said:
Good match and finish this morning between Denmark and China. USWMNT looked sloppy last night but nice performance by Sophia Smith.
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I was also impressed with Haiti. Particularly Dumornay.

Apparently the USA had not played that line-up before and it showed. And I was shocked to see Alex Morgan so lazy on the PK. She had a wide open net but instead paused to admire her shot which cost her the opportunity.
 
RSTuthill said:
I was also impressed with Haiti. Particularly Dumornay.

Apparently the USA had not played that line-up before and it showed. And I was shocked to see Alex Morgan so lazy on the PK. She had a wide open net but instead paused to admire her shot which cost her the opportunity.
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I agree but Alex did have that nice flick to Sophia Smith for the first goal. I hope that it was just playing down to inferior competition, need to step it up against The Netherlands.

Some complain about the 12(Perth) to 16 (New Zealand) hour time difference from US but it works for night owls and early risers like myself on the East coast.
 
HCCForever said:
Good match and finish this morning between Denmark and China. USWMNT looked sloppy last night but nice performance by Sophia Smith.
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China goalkeeper was weak. Should have saved the Denmark goal, easily. IMO, goalkeeper is the position that pales most by comparison to the men’s game.
 
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RSTuthill said:
Well, back in the day, the USWNT could not beat a prep school boys team. The quality today 24 years later is much higher.
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Well. They lost to the FC Dallas U-15s a couple years ago.
 
ZooCougar said:
Well. They lost to the FC Dallas U-15s a couple years ago.
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Yeah, after seeing that performance last night I am inclined to believe that I have overstated the improvement. Btw, the training friendly I was referring was to the boys varsity of a Hartford area prep school.
 
RSTuthill said:
Yeah, after seeing that performance last night I am inclined to believe that I have overstated the improvement. Btw, the training friendly I was referring was to the boys varsity of a Hartford area prep school.
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That’s just the way it is. Has nothing to do with the level of play.

The USWNT has to play U-15 Boys teams because there isn’t a women’s team here that can stack up. They play and lose to worse U-15 teams than FC Dallas.

This is like the 200th best men’s tennis player being able to beat the best Women’s player handily.
 
ZooCougar said:
Well. They lost to the FC Dallas U-15s a couple years ago.
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In thinking about this for awhile I somehow doubt this. 14 year old kids? Those women really should not have much trouble with 14 year old boys. Are you sure about this?
 
RSTuthill said:
In thinking about this for awhile I somehow doubt this. 14 year old kids? Those women really should not have much trouble with 14 year old boys. Are you sure about this?
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It’s pretty common. Brazil women lost to Queensland boys u15 last week.
 
RSTuthill said:
In thinking about this for awhile I somehow doubt this. 14 year old kids? Those women really should not have much trouble with 14 year old boys. Are you sure about this?
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Australia women's national team got destroyed by the Australia U15 boy's team a few years ago. Strength wise 13 year old boys and grown women are about the same. That being said, the technical ability of some of these women's teams at the world cup is very good.
 
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ZooCougar said:
Doubt all you want. You need to sit out every argument.


www.90min.com

Some People Think it's Funny That the USA Women's National Team Were Apparently Beaten by U15 Boys

www.90min.com www.90min.com
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Not arguing. You have supplied some data that I accept. But you should know that the piece notes back at that time it would have been unlikely that the WWC starters were on the pitch for much time if at all and their intensity likely lacked that of a meaningful match. The boys most likely played their tails off.

Nonetheless, we are in full agreement on this topic. But I am hoping that the WWC standard of play will pick up once the weak teams are eliminated and the real competition starts. Guessing that both Netherlands and the USA will look much sharper on Wednesday. That should be a pretty decent match.
 
RSTuthill said:
Not arguing. You have supplied some data that I accept. But you should know that the piece notes back at that time it would have been unlikely that the WWC starters were on the pitch for much time if at all and their intensity likely lacked that of a meaningful match. The boys most likely played their tails off.

Nonetheless, we are in full agreement on this topic. But I am hoping that the WWC standard of play will pick up once the weak teams are eliminated and the real competition starts. Guessing that both Netherlands and the USA will look much sharper on Wednesday. That should be a pretty decent match.
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If anything the boys took it easy.
 
RSTuthill said:
Not arguing. You have supplied some data that I accept. But you should know that the piece notes back at that time it would have been unlikely that the WWC starters were on the pitch for much time if at all and their intensity likely lacked that of a meaningful match. The boys most likely played their tails off.

Nonetheless, we are in full agreement on this topic. But I am hoping that the WWC standard of play will pick up once the weak teams are eliminated and the real competition starts. Guessing that both Netherlands and the USA will look much sharper on Wednesday. That should be a pretty decent match.
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It’s not even like this is a one off. The play U-15 teams fairly regularly.

It doesn’t even discredit the Women. It’s just biology.
 
ZooCougar said:
It’s not even like this is a one off. The play U-15 teams fairly regularly.

It doesn’t even discredit the Women. It’s just biology.
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The point is, that if the EPL is what you watch from time to time, if you don't even like MLS for various reasons, the standard of play in WWC drives you up the wall. I get that the pace and physicality cannot be high, but the skill level could be so much higher than it is. I see progress in quality of shots when not under pressure or not having to deal with awkward balls. But not much in other skills of the game. Maybe it will get better when the competition improves. Wednesday should be a yardstick.
 
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