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RF1 said:
The Boston Globe had an editorial this past Sunday calling for UMass to shrink or scrap football.
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Was that this year, last year of 5 years ago? I hope at least the Globe got that UMass is indeed in the same state as Boston.
 
RF1 said:
The Boston Globe had an editorial this past Sunday calling for UMass to shrink or scrap football.
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Unlike the Courant and Jacobs, the Globe offers nothing positive and is a BC sycophant rag being fed erroneous info from within UMass. I'm not going to attempt to hijack this thread, but think about this. For a picture, the Globe used one taken of the visitor's side (Indiana) in our second ever FBS game. There were about 25 people in the picture. Chock that up to fair and impartial journalism.
There is one person, Katie Kingsbury, who so far has shown herself to be a journalist. When bombarded by UMass fans via email and twitter, she took down the picture and replaced it with one of the UMass side. She also asked that the fans write to her and point out any facts that they have misrepresented. She has stated that she will research these and will correct the record if the Globe published inaccurate facts. I'll believe it when I see it.
 
I confess...i was surfing last night and actually landed on the Rutgers-Maryland hoops game. The "B1G" logo on the floor made the game relevant not necessarily to me, but I am sure to many basketball fans on the east coast. I also confess that I had very little interest watching UCONN-Tulsa the other night partially because it was late and partially because I just cannot get interested in a basketball conference which is so far removed from the awesome Big East. Playing Seton Hall, Providence, and even Rutgers when those teams were down was still fun because it was regional. What we have today is just a shame. I agree with many that we are being bled dry and two years from now, we will be in serious trouble, if not flat-lined.
 
All this BS now??? This battle was lost the ACC picked Louisville over us. "UConn was penned in" according to UL AD Jurich. We were told to "sleep the sleep of angels" on this board based upon "inside info". How the fugg were here today is inconceivable. But oh well, what's done is done. Soon we won't have to worry about any of this stuff if things keep going as they are presently. The American pfft.
 
UMass said:
Unlike the Courant and Jacobs, the Globe offers nothing positive and is a BC sycophant rag being fed erroneous info from within UMass. I'm not going to attempt to hijack this thread, but think about this. For a picture, the Globe used one taken of the visitor's side (Indiana) in our second ever FBS game. There were about 25 people in the picture. Chock that up to fair and impartial journalism.
There is one person, Katie Kingsbury, who so far has shown herself to be a journalist. When bombarded by UMass fans via email and twitter, she took down the picture and replaced it with one of the UMass side. She also asked that the fans write to her and point out any facts that they have misrepresented. She has stated that she will research these and will correct the record if the Globe published inaccurate facts. I'll believe it when I see it.
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The Globe leans a bit to the left. UMass's faculty leans the same way and has always been anti-athletic and VERY anti-football. Thus, other than forgetting that Boston and UMass share the same commonwealth, the two like each other a lot. Thus, trashing the UMass football program on an annual basis whether it deserves it or not has been a pastime of the Globe since the 1990's.
 
noeynox said:
All this BS now??? This battle was lost the ACC picked Louisville over us. "UConn was penned in" according to UL AD Jurich. We were told to "sleep the sleep of angels" on this board based upon "inside info". How the fugg were here today is inconceivable. But oh well, what's done is done. Soon we won't have to worry about any of this stuff if things keep going as they are presently. The American pfft.
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Noey the answer to "how the fugg were here today is inconceivable" is VERY easy...Jeff Hathaway with a bit of Phil Austin/Michael Hogan mixed in!
 
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The day Louisville was picked I was sick to my stomach, posting how we wouldn't be able to compete with our regional rivals. I was told UConn had time. Almost two years later nothing has changed. We are no more flucked today than we were that day, so I guess I see no reason for Jacobs to write that or for the hand wringing I see.

With everything at stake, and knowing what was at stake, we hired an unknown at FB coach who one year in appears to be learning on the job. I much rather we had went the Cincy route with the Tubberville hire.

Words can't explain my frustration over this but I have felt this way since Louisville. I've resigned myself to accepting on blind faith that Warde and Susan know what they're doing, other than that we got nothing.
 
noeynox said:
The day Louisville was picked I was sick to my stomach, posting how we wouldn't be able to compete with our regional rivals. I was told UConn had time. Almost two years later nothing has changed. We are no more flucked today than we were that day, so I guess I see no reason for Jacobs to write that or for the hand wringing I see.

With everything at stake, and knowing what was at stake, we hired an unknown at FB coach who one year in appears to be learning on the job. I much rather we had went the Cincy route with the Tubberville hire.

Words can't explain my frustration over this but I have felt this way since Louisville. I've resigned myself to accepting on blind faith that Warde and Susan know what they're doing, other than that we got nothing.
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In just a few hours we went from Yes! Maryland is leaving and we will get our ACC invite to oh ssss, are you kidding me? even then there was hope that the CR wheels were still turning but it seems more and more doubtful. Meanwhile "P5" is thrown around as if it has always been the P5. It's not fair to any of the G5 programs and I really don't see an invitation being proffered. I totally agree with your last sentence.
 
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noeynox said:
The day Louisville was picked I was sick to my stomach, posting how we wouldn't be able to compete with our regional rivals. I was told UConn had time. Almost two years later nothing has changed. We are no more flucked today than we were that day, so I guess I see no reason for Jacobs to write that or for the hand wringing I see.

With everything at stake, and knowing what was at stake, we hired an unknown at FB coach who one year in appears to be learning on the job. I much rather we had went the Cincy route with the Tubberville hire.

Words can't explain my frustration over this but I have felt this way since Louisville. I've resigned myself to accepting on blind faith that Warde and Susan know what they're doing, other than that we got nothing.
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I know every other sentence that Susan utters is that UCONN is a great research university & that is aimed at the B1G. But I would feel somewhat better if I knew her & Warde are working Delany & B1G University Presidents behind the scenes. All we get is cold silence. And I would think that Jacobs would hear something about their efforts if there were any. This is so frustrating. The fanbase isn't stupid, no one believes Warde when he says the AAC is a good conference. Warde & Susan don't even have to provide details. Just let us know that it's being worked!
 
SC Husky said:
I know every other sentence that Susan utters is that UCONN is a great research university & that is aimed at the B1G. But I would feel somewhat better if I knew her & Warde are working Delany & B1G University Presidents behind the scenes. All we get is cold silence. And I would think that Jacobs would hear something about their efforts if there were any. This is so frustrating. The fanbase isn't stupid, no one believes Warde when he says the AAC is a good conference. Warde & Susan don't even have to provide details. Just let us know that it's being worked!
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First, any contact will be by telephone and will not be publicized. Second, at early stages you don't necessarily need frequent contact. If the B1G has told them, here are our metrics, here's where you stand, here's what you need to do -- here's the minimum to be considered, here's what you need to achieve for entry to become likely, here's what would make it a slam dunk. Now go work. In the meantime we'll be working with our TV partners, talking to other schools, measuring response to Rutgers and Maryland adds to refine our estimates of UConn's value. Decision points will be tied to TV contract negotiations and availability of partners. Assuming that conversation has been held, UConn knows their timetable, knows what it needs to work on, and just needs to give periodic updates on its progress.

As far as encouraging the fans, the less said the better. They can easily spoil negotiations with the B1G and potential with the B12 or ACC. Moreover, outcomes are not in their hands so it would be wrong to raise hopes prematurely. All they need to tell us is what we as fans need to do to support the school and its athletic programs.
 
Lloyd said:
It still baffles me that we may never have a landing spot in the ACC. I agree that the B1G is infinitely a better conference, but geography helps develop rivalries (i.e UCLA USC, Duke UNC, UM OSU, etc)... who would be our natural rival in the B1G? As much as I hate the ACC, we would be a natural rival to both Cuse and BC, our basketball would thrive while football would become competitive again, and hockey stays in hockey east... but I'm just venting now I guess
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Maryland, Rutgers, and perhaps Penn State. F BC and Cuse.
 
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pj said:
First, any contact will be by telephone and will not be publicized. Second, at early stages you don't necessarily need frequent contact. If the B1G has told them, here are our metrics, here's where you stand, here's what you need to do -- here's the minimum to be considered, here's what you need to achieve for entry to become likely, here's what would make it a slam dunk. Now go work. In the meantime we'll be working with our TV partners, talking to other schools, measuring response to Rutgers and Maryland adds to refine our estimates of UConn's value. Decision points will be tied to TV contract negotiations and availability of partners. Assuming that conversation has been held, UConn knows their timetable, knows what it needs to work on, and just needs to give periodic updates on its progress.

As far as encouraging the fans, the less said the better. They can easily spoil negotiations with the B1G and potential with the B12 or ACC. Moreover, outcomes are not in their hands so it would be wrong to raise hopes prematurely. All they need to tell us is what we as fans need to do to support the school and its athletic programs.
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It will probably go on like this for the next decade. I think I'll head home after work & get loaded too.
 
NC_Uconn_Fan said:
Cold, gray January day here in NC, reading this thread makes me more depressed. Going to go home and drink.
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Alcohol never solves your problems, but it does help to pass the time.
 
SC Husky said:
I know every other sentence that Susan utters is that UCONN is a great research university & that is aimed at the B1G. But I would feel somewhat better if I knew her & Warde are working Delany & B1G University Presidents behind the scenes. All we get is cold silence. And I would think that Jacobs would hear something about their efforts if there were any. This is so frustrating. The fanbase isn't stupid, no one believes Warde when he says the AAC is a good conference. Warde & Susan don't even have to provide details. Just let us know that it's being worked!
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If you want to be credible, it should be "she and Warde" not "her and Warde". Maybe the fanbase is stupid! The reason there is silence is because neither of them have a clue as to what is going on. UConn will be a great research university. AAU admission is highly unlikely however, as most of the metrics required for admission are not there. I recall, and please correct if I am wrong, that Susan actually stated that it would be a miracle if UConn was admitted to the B1G "in our lifetime". That quote says it all. I am hoping that it was "tongue in cheek", but I am not so sure. I wish I had the blind faith that noeynox does, but I don't. I think Jacobs just basically expressed the frustration that true UConn fans have over CR, the last horrible, horrible football season (worst ever, in my opinion), and the dim prospects for the future at this time. People are not going to make donations, buy season tickets, go to games, if the perception is that there is no hope. As they say silence=death. The silence coming out of Storrs is not a good thing for UConn faithful.
 
buddy said:
I recall, and please correct if I am wrong, that Susan actually stated that it would be a miracle if UConn was admitted to the B1G "in our lifetime". That quote says it all. I am hoping that it was "tongue in cheek", but I am not so sure.
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You're wrong. She was asked if a B1G invite would be coming and when; and she replied, "Let's hope so, in our lifetimes." There was nothing about miracles being required.
 
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Fishy said:
Basically, we need football to salvage our athletic existence. If we're still here in ten years, we'll be in a very different condition relative to our recent peers.
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Agree. Ten years is also my own personal timetable. I have no idea how long UCONN is willing to wait but judging by the investments they have just made in lucrative coaches salaries/raises, upgrading hockey to Hockey East, constructing an on-campus basketball practice facility, and soccer (although this came in large part from private donation), I'm guessing that UCONN feels it can self-sustain for a while until it gets its life preserver.
 
We still have to hold out hope that we get a seat at the big (especially B1G) table. If we don't we will sink into oblivion with the other P5 schools. Cutting FB will only accelerate the process.
 
pj said:
You're wrong. She was asked if a B1G invite would be coming and when; and she replied, "Let's hope so, in our lifetimes." There was nothing about miracles being required.
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Thank you for refreshing my memory. You are correct.
 
More banner lows for the Big East...courtesy of awful announcing...nobody is watching them.
 

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Viewers for UConn games on ESPN2 during this period:
Cincy - 455K
USF - 299K

That's right...UConn vs a terrible USF team had more viewers than ANYTHING on the Big East's flagship network by 50K (monster trucks!)
 
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zls44 said:
Viewers for UConn games on ESPN2 during this period:
Cincy - 455K
USF - 299K

That's right...UConn vs a terrible USF team had more viewers than ANYTHING on the Big East's flagship network by 50K (monster trucks!)
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We're just lucky ESPN has the AAC under contract. Guarantee it's not renewed. I'd put down a TON on it.
 
MASSconn said:
We're just lucky ESPN has the AAC under contract. Guarantee it's not renewed. I'd put down a TON on it.
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I'll take that bet assuming aac doesn't lose anyone prior to renewal period.
 
MASSconn said:
We're just lucky ESPN has the AAC under contract. Guarantee it's not renewed. I'd put down a TON on it.
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Between the Big East and the AAC, only one is a terrible deal for the network- and it ain't the AAC.
 
buddy said:
If you want to be credible, it should be "she and Warde" not "her and Warde". Maybe the fanbase is stupid! The reason there is silence is because neither of them have a clue as to what is going on. UConn will be a great research university. AAU admission is highly unlikely however, as most of the metrics required for admission are not there. I recall, and please correct if I am wrong, that Susan actually stated that it would be a miracle if UConn was admitted to the B1G "in our lifetime". That quote says it all. I am hoping that it was "tongue in cheek", but I am not so sure. I wish I had the blind faith that noeynox does, but I don't. I think Jacobs just basically expressed the frustration that true UConn fans have over CR, the last horrible, horrible football season (worst ever, in my opinion), and the dim prospects for the future at this time. People are not going to make donations, buy season tickets, go to games, if the perception is that there is no hope. As they say silence=death. The silence coming out of Storrs is not a good thing for UConn faithful.
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Great, you're correcting my grammer. If being a pompous arse makes you credible well at least you can say that you have that going for you. Maybe the fanbase isn't stupid. Could be that you're just a tool - buddy.
 
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