This is how it will end...(spoiler: im talking about NIL)

[bendm]

Do you really think you are the only person in the world that realizes that there may only be two, or even one, conferences at some point? Seriously, you think you are the only person that has realizes that?

I didn’t say anything about further conference consolidation and I don’t want that to happen… and no everyone’s been talking about revenue sharing on the realignment board but barely anyone brings it up on the bball board. Idk if it’s an ignorance is bliss thing or what

 

[uh-no]

Mets fans are forever forbidden from complaining about NIL.

hey now, it wouldn't be ridiculous unless we resigned polar bear...

 

[StllH8L8ner]

Wait... what?!

I’m glad I’m not the only one who didn’t gloss over that little tidbit.

Quick ChatGPT inquiry and…apparently MOBY is part of the Boneyard!!

 

[Jaydumo20]

I’m glad I’m not the only one who didn’t gloss over that little tidbit.

Quick ChatGPT inquiry and…apparently MOBY is part of the Boneyard!!

@StllH8L8ner @CL82 haaaaa!!! That was good. Okay. I'll open up.
I was in a band called dirtie blonde on sony/jive and then with amie miriello as co-writer and partner. Then worked for Sony, and 19 records writing music for the American Idol winners.
Now I play in bands and write music i actually listen to.

 

[Icehawk]

Musicians can play gigs, it’s how the Rolling Stone were the richest band in the world way back in the 1980s back when records sales still generated income. Sucks that the passive income of recorded music is a lot thinner but there is still a profitable revenue stream available to those willing to tour.

 

[Martin84]

@StllH8L8ner @CL82 haaaaa!!! That was good. Okay. I'll open up.
I was in a band called dirtie blonde on sony/jive and then with amie miriello as co-writer and partner. Then worked for Sony, and 19 records writing music for the American Idol winners.
Now I play in bands and write music i actually listen to.

I read this article a few months ago. One of the longer term members of thrash metal band Exodus says he’s no longer in the music business. He instead is in the t-shirt business. They write these songs to play at shows for the right to sell $50 tshirts in the hopes of breaking even since you can listen for free. Side note my nephew this year is in the top 0.001% of Motorhead listeners on Spotify.

 

[MexicoHusky]

For 20 years i was a professional musician/songwriter. I remember a meeting at RIAA (you know them as the entity that issues gold records): A regional CCO was telling me about Napsters effect on the industry (This was back in 2003).
Nobody, not them, not me, not all of you, not the record companies ever predicted the demolition of the music industry. Yeah, there are still some rich mega stars, but a livelihood was ripped from thousands of incredible musicians because someone "figured it out" and now music is free. (check out Gillian welch's song 'Everything is free' for a depressing and brilliant synopsis of the streaming effect).

Although we can't see it now: in the words of Dan Hurley, these athletes "better get it now" because "it's coming".

Very soon there will be some kind of shift where not only NIL but even contracts in pro sports and earnings will start to plummet.

The thing that took the record industry down was the greed. $20 a c.d. at times.

Watching sports has become prohibitively expensive for many fans. Someone is already out there working on a way for us to access all this stuff legally and for free. I don't know what it is yet, but everything is cyclical. Without fail.

But don't fret. The games won't change and kids will still dream of being pro athletes. Because as Gillian said "They're gonna do it anyway, even if it doesn't pay"

I can see why napster and later spotify (to a lesser degree) de-valued the music industry. Im not seeing the connection to NIL. Are you saying the college athletes who are now being paid are de-valuing sports? Why? People still go to games, buy tickets, pay for sports packages on TV.

The paychecks of professional athletes reached astronimical heights decades ago. There has been no significant decay of professional sports. I see no evidence NIL will do that To college sports.

 

[UCHuskies08]

I don't think he's trying to draw a comparison of the two models and say a "collapse" will happen in the same way. I think he's saying that the music industry was riding high, thinking the good times would never end, and now two decades later the industry is unrecognizable and for the worse for all but the big people. And that someday something similar could happen to college sports, not because of streaming or digital distribution, but some unknown factor we're not considering.

I think.

 

[Travelman6]

Very soon there will be some kind of shift where not only NIL but even contracts in pro sports and earnings will start to plummet.

I doubt that will happen but if it does, well, there are so many other much larger issues to be concerned about. As far as salaries, way more concerned with how grossly under paid too many professions are in our society.

 

[storrsroars]

I don't think anyone can really predict what's going to happen. In the past 25 years we've seen use of technology to affect changes to all sorts of things that weren't the original intent of the technologies. We're not even close to done.

I recall when the Cowboys were building AT&T Stadium, there was immense concern over the in-game experience because the feeling at the time was the NFL was losing attendance because the home viewing experience had many advantages that would keep people away from going to games. That hasn't really changed, nor will it, because technology will always move faster than any sports league is able to.

Who's to say what the tipping point will be regarding professional sports. It could be betting, it could be VR, it could be stuff like that Simpsons simulcast (imagine being able to put yourself and your friends or enemies in the game via deepfake), but it will be something.

College football (and to a lesser extent, hoops) at the moment has at least some advantages vs pros. There's a built-in fan base. If a UConn alumnus moves to NC, they don't become a Duke fan. But a Jets fan moving to KC could easily become a Chiefs fan (hey look, they win games here!). College football also has a better social aspect than pro sports (exception of Green Bay and maybe Buffalo) due to tailgating and alumni relationships. And tickets are much, much less expensive. NIL can and likely will continue to thrive in that environment.

That said, IMHO, once the generations who didn't grow up on the internet and Madden start to pass on, I believe college sports will begin to suffer as attendance will go down, alumni support will wane, and activities like eSports and non-contact activities requiring no special physical skills will become more popular - and important - to students and alumni. At that point, national interest in things like the CFP and maybe March Madness will also wane, bringing the media value of those properties down significantly. And that will see many schools drop big time football and/or other expensive sports. And NIL will all but disappear, except at programs that will have essentially become a defacto NFL minor league program with no veneer of amateurism or "student-athletes".

That's simply one path to the future. As I said in the first line, I don't think anyone can really predict what will happen. I remember back in the late 90s when social media was the promise to a better world where everyone' would get along, lol.

 

[CTBasketball]

Napster couldn’t hold a candle to Limewire.

 

[uconnyankee]

as long as we're in the BE we should be more worried about revenue sharing than NIL

This is a big issue that fractured BE 1.0.

 

[J187Money]

Napster couldn’t hold a candle to Limewire.

How did that work out for Mark Gorton?