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This could turn out really bad, or maybe really good...

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So Uconn is one of 3 teams that is not playing football this year. That means the prospects of playing a shortened schedule in the spring is a non starter unless they find some FCS teams or lower that play in the spring, but I don't see any benefit to that.

THE POTENTIALLY BAD RESULT:

The NCAA has passed legislation that no football player will use eligibility this year regardless of the number of games played. What a missed opportunity. Instead this is what the result is. We will have some kids on our roster that were red shirted in 2018 as freshman. They will not have played a game in 3 years come fall of 2021. Moreover, these kids will academically be juniors. Some will perhaps rise into the depth chart and start or be on the 2 deep. Others will head into their senior year academically and not have seen the field. These kids will likely visit the transfer portal, or just forget about football. The key issue for all of them, is heading into what would be their sophomore year athletically, from an eligibility standpoint, they will also likely be graduating. These kids have a strong likelihood to enter the transfer portal, and have 2 years of eligibility remaining, making UConn a training portal for other teams.

THE POTENTIALLY GOOD:

There could be a huge log jam of kids because of eligibility used and academic year being much wider than any time ever before. There very well could be a lot of "better" players out there for immediate improvement. The caveat to that is our hard and fast coach says he won't go that route, so any opportunity to benefit is dismissed. When people make closed statements, and have a closed mind, success is hard to come by. "We will not change." Does that also come with a warning in doing so, that says our record won't change either. Unfortunately, if he does change, he destroys his credibility, and if he does not change, and opportunity knocks, the door sadly is closed. I'm sure by all or most counts RE is a standup guy, and has good intentions, but at some point the win column has to be addressed. The final chapter in this book may read "I did it my way." That way, to this point hasn't exactly proven to be the best plan.
 
It would have turned out worse if we stayed in the AAC. We don't low enough admission standards to keep up with the community colleges.
 
Meh. Schools with better reps and schools with lesser reps all kicked Uconn's ass.
We had a good run till PP came along. Program is in total rebuild mode. We attract better recuits as an independent, anyway.
 
It would have turned out worse if we stayed in the AAC. We don't low enough admission standards to keep up with the community colleges.
Tulane is doing well and has similar admission to UCONN. In fact they're ranked higher than UCONN in US News rankings.
 
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Let's see what Edsall can do in the fall. I still think UConn may be able to sneak into ACC given the expected post-COVID economy.
 
Tulane is doing well and has similar admission to UCONN. In fact they're ranked higher than UCONN in US News rankings.

Tulane is above and SMU is right in UConn's range for academics. Both are private schools with solid endowments. They can take a few flyers academically and not have to worry about their overall reps. Plus, as private vice public they don't have any external factors for admissions or student body composition.
 
We had a good run till PP came along. Program is in total rebuild mode. We attract better recuits as an independent, anyway.


And all those glory days were while UConn was in the Big East. My point was there were schools who have higher standards than UConn and still kicked UConn's butt. Having higher academic standards isn't what kept UConn from being remotely competitive in the AAC.

Agree, so far it looks like going independent has shown an uptick in recruiting. Credit to AD Dave for getting interesting games on the schedule and credit to the coaching staff selling that to recruits.
 
It would have turned out worse if we stayed in the AAC. We don't low enough admission standards to keep up with the community colleges.
Maybe Temple accepted some of UCONN’s potential recruits but that is all I could tell made any difference. Reality is many recruits don’t feel about UCONN football the same way us fans do.
 
Maybe Temple accepted some of UCONN’s potential recruits but that is all I could tell made any difference. Reality is many recruits don’t feel about UCONN football the same way us fans do.
Which only adds to us not fitting in the AAC aesthetically. SMU and Tulane hire better coaches to start with....
 
It would have turned out worse if we stayed in the AAC. We don't low enough admission standards to keep up with the community colleges.

I suspect there are plenty of community college grads who could at least frame a grammatically correct sentence. As a matter of interest, which AAC schools would you classify as community colleges, the ones with larger research portfolios and endowments? The ones playing football this fall? The ones that beat up on UConn with monotonous regularity? Inquiring minds want to know.
 
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It's always entertaining when UConn fans pretend UConn is Harvard.
It's also known as the admissions process for football players, dingbat.

I recall Edsall clamoring for lowering standards?
 
I suspect there are plenty of community college grads who could at least frame a grammatically correct sentence. As a matter of interest, which AAC schools would you classify as community colleges, the ones with larger research portfolios and endowments? The ones playing football this fall? The ones that beat up on UConn with monotonous regularity? Inquiring minds want to know.
That's a typo. Please forgive me.

I only mention admissions and all of the sudden, people blow it out of proportion. So melodramatic.
 
That's a typo. Please forgive me.

I only mention admissions and all of the sudden, people blow it out of proportion. So melodramatic.

You didn't answer my question. In your opinion, which AAC schools are community colleges?
 
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You didn't answer my question. In your opinion, which AAC schools are community colleges?
Former community colleges*. I also apologize for not keeping up to date with admissions percentages of AAC schools. ECU is still a community college. And so is Memphis. The AAC has some schools who have been using sports to achieve the Flutie Effect. UConn has immensely benefitted from exposure through sports, as well.

Do you feel better now?
 
Former community colleges*. I also apologize for not keeping up to date with admissions percentages of AAC schools. ECU is still a community college. And so is Memphis. The AAC has some schools who have been using sports to achieve the Flutie Effect. UConn has immensely benefitted from exposure through sports, as well.

Do you feel better now?

And yet UConn couldn't compete against them. How sad is that?
 
And yet UConn couldn't compete against them. How sad is that?
Um, that's what I said. At least most of them have lower academic admissions standards for football players, which does make a big difference.

Holy cow.
 
Using admissions standards as an excuse has always been lame and is out right laughable now that Uconn regularly excepts Juco transfers. They’re simply a scapegoat for some to soften the blow of poor recruiting and worse play.

If anyone thinks the difference between winning 2 games a year and being competitive with AAC Level Schools is losing a kid to Temple or ECU I’m not sure what to tell them.

The problem is and remains with an administration that thinks its ok to fund football in the northeast at a Sunbelt Level. They do so in an area without a glut of available talent that can sustain low level G5 programs even after The P5 and AAC have picked through it.

Randy 2.0 is not and has never been the answer. He was a band aid put over a gunshot wound. The AD gambled that if enough gray beards were distracted by memories of mostly mediocre football they might not notice the horror show that Randy was producing now. The problem is that everyone else noticed and stayed away in droves.

This isn’t rocket science. Either fund the program at a competitive level or kill it. Paying the women’s basketball coach nearly as much as the entire football staff is embarrassing. After next years debacle of a season you have to fire Randy and a hire a coach that understands football and recruiting in 2022 not 1972.
 
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Using admissions standards as an excuse has always been lame and is out right laughable now that Uconn regularly excepts Juco transfers. They’re simply a scapegoat for some to soften the blow of poor recruiting and worse play.

If anyone thinks the difference between winning 2 games a year and being competitive with AAC Level Schools is losing a kid to Temple or ECU I’m not sure what to tell them.

The problem is and remains with an administration that thinks its ok to fund football in the northeast at a Sunbelt Level. They do so in an area without a glut of available talent that can sustain low level G5 programs even after The P5 and AAC have picked through it.

Randy 2.0 is not and has never been the answer. He was a band aid put over a gunshot wound. The AD gambled that if enough gray beards were distracted by memories of mostly mediocre football they might not notice the horror show that Randy was producing now. The problem is that everyone else noticed and stayed away in droves.

This isn’t rocket science. Either fund the program at a competitive level or kill it. Paying the women’s basketball coach nearly as much as the entire football staff is embarrassing. After next years debacle of a season you have to fire Randy and a hire a coach that understands football and recruiting in 2022 not 1972.
Last time I checked- Naval Academy has the highest admission standards. They do quite well in D1 football
 
I guess reading this is better than Covid crap.

Admissions plays a big part in the process- when Notre Dame kept the same standards for football as they did the rest of the college - what happened? When Kelly said I am not coming until that changes( and it did), didn't Notre Dame get better immediately?

The admissions process for football is different and just about every school that wants to be competitive( basketball too). When we were competing in the Big East and Randy was losing kids to other schools in the Big East because of admissions requirements, it was a problem that he was able to overcome but never allowed us to get "over the top" each year. In the AAC, this was magnified.

I don't know if it is better now but looking at the rankings and standards are nice, but not applicable. No school is going to tell you their sports admissions standards - that is where you can figure out how easy it is for a 4 star recruit to get accepted.
 
This is all that needs to be said. You can argue about all these reasons, and maybe each plays a role, but when you are an FBS program, and playing FCS scchools the last 7 years looks like this, you can't hide:

2019 Wagner 24-21 line: -17.5
2018 URI 56-49 line: -8
2017 HOLY CR 27-20 line: -24
2016 MAINE 24-21 line: -27
2015 VILL 20-15 line: -7
2014 STONY BR 19-16 line: -16.5
2013 TOWSON 18-33 line -16.5

OFFENSE 188 DEFENSE 175 AVG MARGIN: +1.8

These were all home games, how many would have been lost on the road?

For the most part, these are below average FCS schools, and someone posted above, the ACC willl come calling?

Reality check alert!
 

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