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Message: [QUOTE="Northbound, post: 2286424, member: 155"] This is correct. How folks don't understand this is beyond me. It's not about a single recruit or two recruits. It's the combination of a multitude of factors that give anyone who is capable of objectively looking of the program the sense that the program is a mess. There's one guy who's been entrusted with stewarding the program and maintain the success that the university is accustomed to enjoying and right now he is not getting it done (I'll not bother to critique Ollie here). That title is so far in the rear view mirror to current guys it comical. I'm around high school athletes everyday - it is what have you done for me lately not x years ago with what everyone will say is a HOF coaches players that he had the fortune of coaching - regardless of if you believe that is an accurate narrative or not. [/QUOTE]