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The View From Section 241

businesslawyer said:
Didn't forget it -- I don't think that was nearly as atrocious. Not even sure if it was incorrect. He was clearly shoved out of bounds. I know the rule is you're supposed to then come back in promptly, but I don't know that's he's required to put on the brakes, make a right angle reentry and then run his pattern either. Hardly an expert but I think there is a lot of judgment in terms of how quickly you have to come back in.
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Exactly... judgement. If the EXACT same thing happened to us, it was a call. It was a 1 hand push.
 
uconnfan68 said:
Exactly... judgement. If the EXACT same thing happened to us, it was a call. It was a 1 hand push.
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I thought the refs were very one sided against us. But you can't assume they would make (or not make) a call on a play that never happened. Their receiver was clearly pushed out. The time we had an illegal touch our TE wandered out of bounds on his own for no apparent reason. Neither of those are on the refs.
 
Wonder what happened to Drena? There are a few players on the roster who played Quarterback in HS, including Rosa and Kevin Dunn from Berlin. Not saying they should be considered for QB, but at least they have some HS QB experience god forbid we need to go to a 5th or 6th string QB. I'm sure Mora has a couple of the more athletic guys filed in the back of his head for QB in an emergency situation.
 
businesslawyer said:
I thought the refs were very one sided against us. But you can't assume they would make (or not make) a call on a play that never happened. Their receiver was clearly pushed out. The time we had an illegal touch our TE wandered out of bounds on his own for no apparent reason. Neither of those are on the refs.
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Apples and oranges on the 2 situations. Their receiver clearly abused the discretion of the refs by taking so long to return in bounds. That's my story, and I'm sticking with it. Appreciate your 241 as always though.
 
uconnfan68 said:
Apples and oranges on the 2 situations. Their receiver clearly abused the discretion of the refs by taking so long to return in bounds. That's my story, and I'm sticking with it. Appreciate your 241 as always though.
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To be clear, you may be right that the better call would have been to disallow the catch. But I don't find that to be absurd, like not flagging a DB for ankle tackling a WR from behind because you're guessing whether he would have gotten to the ball, or the PI call where the DB was clearly playing the ball on an underthrown pass.
 
businesslawyer said:
To be clear, you may be right that the better call would have been to disallow the catch. But I don't find that to be absurd, like not flagging a DB for ankle tackling a WR from behind because you're guessing whether he would have gotten to the ball, or the PI call where the DB was clearly playing the ball on an underthrown pass.
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When the announcers said the refs determined that he couldn’t have reached the ball I was thinking “yeah, because he got tackled.”
 
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uconnfan68 said:
Apples and oranges on the 2 situations. Their receiver clearly abused the discretion of the refs by taking so long to return in bounds. That's my story, and I'm sticking with it. Appreciate your 241 as always though.
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I believe that this is part of USU's plan. On the play being discussed, not only did the WR not immediately attempt to get back in bounds, he drifted a bit further from the sideline over the first few yards where he continued his route. There were a few other plays later in the game where their WR did something similar (but did not get a reception). It looked to me like it was planned where they remain out of bounds (if pushed) for a number of yards to make it easier to get open.
 
I do wish Krajewski stayed. He’d have been worlds better with this staff. I understand moving on was part of a shift to the new guard, but I’d have liked to keep him. All we had to do to keep him in the fold was give him a fair shot at #1. He was entrenched here in so many ways. Girlfriend, charities etc. SK was a Husky.
 
businesslawyer said:
To be clear, you may be right that the better call would have been to disallow the catch. But I don't find that to be absurd, like not flagging a DB for ankle tackling a WR from behind because you're guessing whether he would have gotten to the ball, or the PI call where the DB was clearly playing the ball on an underthrown pass.
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Oh, I totally agreed on those already.
 
Hoophound said:
I do wish Krajewski stayed. He’d have been worlds better with this staff. I understand moving on was part of a shift to the new guard, but I’d have liked to keep him. All we had to do to keep him in the fold was give him a fair shot at #1. He was entrenched here in so many ways. Girlfriend, charities etc. Steven Krajewski was a Husky.
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What makes you think he wasn't given a fair shot?
 
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LIUCHusky said:
What makes you think he wasn't given a fair shot?
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I don’t think they wanted him. He’s been gone for a long time. He didn’t leave last week. After spring practices, he left, presumably because he was told they would go in a different direction. I’m not saying it wasn’t fair, just that I wish we hung on to him.
 
Hoophound said:
I don’t think they wanted him. He’s been gone for a long time. He didn’t leave last week. After spring practices, he left, presumably because he was told they would go in a different direction. I’m not saying it wasn’t fair, just that I wish we hung on to him.
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He left because Roberson beat him out in spring practice and he wanted a place he could play.

Players transfer.
 
Chin Diesel said:
He left because Roberson beat him out in spring practice and he wanted a place he could play.

Players transfer.
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Exactly. I have no problem with it. I just wish we still had him. I think he’d be much better this year. Maybe they did try to keep him. Idk.
 
Nice review @businesslawyer .... but I think our DBs are decent enough to cover....when you have no pass rush, like we didn't have all day Saturday, even the best DBs in the business will look bad. Gotta rattle tge QB more consistently back there.
 
ktuck911 said:
Nice review @businesslawyer .... but I think our DBs are decent enough to cover....when you have no pass rush, like we didn't have all day Saturday, even the best DBs in the business will look bad. Gotta rattle tge QB more consistently back there.
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That absolutely could be right. It was one game under an entirely new staff and circumstances. We got hints yesterday. To really have a feel for who and what we are, we’ll no more after Central and Syracuse.
 
ktuck911 said:
Nice review @businesslawyer .... but I think our DBs are decent enough to cover....when you have no pass rush, like we didn't have all day Saturday, even the best DBs in the business will look bad. Gotta rattle tge QB more consistently back there.
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Lack of pass rush makes it tough on DB's.

Overall I thought they played okay.

Only one play where it looked like Bell and the other DB got mixed on coverage and Bell dropped back 10 yards off the receiver for an easy catch. I think that play was a blown coverage more than a crappy defensive call, a DB misreading the WR's route or plain old hesitant coverage by Bell.
 
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Chin Diesel said:
He left because Roberson beat him out in spring practice and he wanted a place he could play.

Players transfer.
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More than ever. The days of recruiting and development have been greatly diminished. Rosters are year to year and they have to recruit players to stay.
 
Chin Diesel said:
Lack of pass rush makes it tough on DB's.

Overall I thought they played okay.

Only one play where it looked like Bell and the other DB got mixed on coverage and Bell dropped back 10 yards off the receiver for an easy catch. I think that play was a blown coverage more than a crappy defensive call, a DB misreading the WR's route or plain old hesitant coverage by Bell.
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stuff like this too. tunnel screen to the slot. Stop it after the play.

 
Hoophound said:
Exactly. I have no problem with it. I just wish we still had him. I think he’d be much better this year. Maybe they did try to keep him. Idk.
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I wish he had stayed also. If he left because he was beat out as the number one, he should have stayed. He is not going to start at GS either. Their starting QB was the mvp in their bowl game last year and the team captain. But we all know how fast that can change with injuries
 
mymustang said:
I wish he had stayed also. If he left because he was beat out as the number one, he should have stayed. He is not going to start at GS either. Their starting QB was the mvp in their bowl game last year and the team captain. But we all know how fast that can change with injuries
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Georgia is home for him.
 
My own sense is Turner won’t be ready for awhile. Down three wide receivers doesn’t make it any easier. You never have enough playmakers.
Carter and Mitchell were great. Brewton was the other guy Chief sees as a playmaker.
 
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Pretty much agree with most of Section 241's observations and assessments of Game 1. But one thing that concerned me was that the UConn offense (and coaches) did not have an answer for the UState adjustments to stopping the ground game in general - and Carter in particular. They had to have anticipated this (I mentioned this in the 2nd quarter to the people I was watching with) and maybe they did. Bottom line is it will take more than 2 TD's to win most games and they had no answer on offense when the running game started to stall (a familiar scenario for UConn offense over the past few . . . decades). And, maybe one more thing. Please let the QB (whoever that may be) throw to the center of the field. Leave the repetitive sideline throws to Tom Brady and Aaron Rodgers. These are difficult throws for inexperience QBs.
 
TouchdownHusky said:
Pretty much agree with most of Section 241's observations and assessments of Game 1. But one thing that concerned me was that the UConn offense (and coaches) did not have an answer for the UState adjustments to stopping the ground game in general - and Carter in particular. They had to have anticipated this (I mentioned this in the 2nd quarter to the people I was watching with) and maybe they did. Bottom line is it will take more than 2 TD's to win most games and they had no answer on offense when the running game started to stall (a familiar scenario for UConn offense over the past few . . . decades). And, maybe one more thing. Please let the QB (whoever that may be) throw to the center of the field. Leave the repetitive sideline throws to Tom Brady and Aaron Rodgers. These are difficult throws for inexperience QBs.
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I agree that the offense bogged down. I do think that there were a couple of reasons. First and foremost the quarterback injury changed the approach. They got very conservative knowing Zion was struggling. They tried almost all “safe” passes, screens, short outs, except the 1 nonPI throw. Plus, no sugar coating it. Zion didn’t play very well. I am hopeful they will open it up going forward. Despite that, they got a pair of fgs to keep it close. And got hosed on the PI late.
 
On positive side two really good quarters ( 1st and 3rd held Utah State scoreless) for the defense! Offense has to get first downs to help keep defense off the field. Failure to move the ball in second quarter lead to giving up 24 points. Punting game was god except the bad punt which lead to giving up field goal just before halftime. We need to turn the second quarter of games to our favor as it has been a thorn in our side in the past. Holding Utah State to 7 points in the second half was very encouraging. The offense should get better over the course of the season. O line play is dramatically improved from what we have seen the past few seasons.
 
That game had a few very critical moments and none went our way:

1. Roberson out

2. Marion out

3. Utah St reception after receiver ran out of bounds for 5 yards resulting in a touchdown.

4. No call PI on a bomb by Zion that the announcers said was "uncatchable" despite our receiver being tripped and pushed and the ball still only landing 8-10 feet beyond his sprawled out body on the ground.

5. Garbage PI call against us to give Utah St another easy touchdown (in fairness, the announcers called that one out)
 
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