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Well, that was a huge win for so many reasons. That we hate BC more than anyone because of its incredibly illegal rationale for talking the ACC out of taking us when it took ‘Cuse and Pitt. Because they are our single biggest competitor for recruiting New England players below a national top 40 level. Because we hadn’t won ON THE ROAD against a power conference team since winning at Maryland in September of 2012. And because the P-4 win sort of cancels out the road loss to Delaware and puts us back on a track where we SHOULD, as opposed to could, finish with at least 8 regular season wins again. And the huge win was totallly deserved. Our offense was truly close to perfect in all aspects — game plan, play calling, execution and players making big plays. Only too many holding penalties on running plays on offense were troublesome. Our defense more than struggled in the first half, and then totally turned it around and played very well in the second half. And special teams held their own. More on each of those later.

The last time we won at a power conference team in ‘12, I was there in Maryland with my younger son who lives in DC. He came up for the weekend to go to the game with me, but it was not without causing an old man to be exhausted. His flight landed at LGA at 11:40 pm Friday night, and it was 1:00 in the morning on technically Saturday when we got home to Fairfield. After not much sleep after getting in that late, it was out of the house at 7:45, a quick stop at Country Cow for breakfast sandwiches (IYKYK) and then on to the 150 mile each way drive to Boston. Not a hint of traffic until we were off the highway, and reached the off campus parking lot we had paid for about 10:45. Unfortunately it was about 11:50 by the time we found our seats due to a combination of waiting for the shuttle bus to drive to the stadium, heavy traffic getting to the stadium and frankly finding the stadium itself very confusing to figure out where our section was. But it was all fine, Beautiful day, we were on time, and I’d say the crowd was at least 15% UConn fans. There was a LOT of blue in the stands. Where we were sitting (upper deck behind the UConn bench at about the 35 yard line) there were both UConn and BC fans, and there was absolutely no tension whatsoever between the two. (Having the home team looking at a 1-11 season will do that for crowds.). By the way — for those constantly whining about how our paying fans don’t get to their seats early enough — you ain’t seen nothing. That might have been the latest arriving crowd I’d ever seen at a sporting event anywhere. But, at the end of the first quarter, between UConn fans and late arrives the building was mostly full. I’d guess attendance at 35k or so . Don’t know what BC reported.

Anyway, on to the game. I don’t know how much better you could ask an offensive unit to play than that. Not counting when we were just killing time at the end of the half and game, I think we scored 5 TDs and 1 FG in just 9 offensive possessions. I think I’m done qualifying my compliments week after week as to Fagano’s play by talking about what he can’t do, because what he can do, and is doing, is giving us really really good QB play. The decision making, the delivery of the ball a high percentage of the time, the occasional scramble and the incredibly number of throws he’s made over 7 games without a single pick is just outstanding. And, sort of increidibly for a guy in his 7th year, we’re seeing him get better and better week to week. But the incredible success of the passing game is not on him. I don’t remember him taking a single hard hit thanks to the pass blocking, I can’t remember a single drop by the varied receiving corps and some of the schemes were so good that making the play was easy. Best example was the first Juice TD. He was hidden in the backfield as a FB at the snap, leaked out and was so unbelievably wide open that any in shape 40 year old (although not me I’d add) could have made that catch and run. And I would be remiss if I fail to note that the defense having to focus on Bell each and every time JF looks to throw has to make everything easier. The running game, although seldom used, was perfectly fine other than the frequent holding penalties. I don’t know if we ran so little to limit Edwards’ carries again or just because passing successfully looked so damn easy, but it certainly didn’t stop the offense as a whole from working.

So on defense, in the first half it looked like they could run on us to their hearts’ desire. And we didn’t seem in a hurry to make changes. I don’t know if our game plan was to bend but not break, and in the red zone with less room behind our DBs bring them up and stop the offense, or we just don’t have a Plan B, but the bend but don’t break, on a day when we could move the ball at will, worked satisfactorily until the defensive breakdown at the end of the first half. When, inexplicitly, we had no deep safety help when without TOs left BC had no way to get into the end zone before running out of time and kicking a 3 unless we let them beat us deep, Mora absolutely lit into Brock on the sideline after that play. Not once. The yelling at him continued at least until everyone headed to the locker room for the half. And then, in the second half, the D was totally different. Some combination of them speeding up to chase points, us playing better and increasing substantially our blitzing held BC to 3 second half points. And the result was what was, in the end, a relatively comfortable win.

I feel like the paragraph on special teams every week is getting boring since we stopped snapping it two stories over our punter’s head. Our punting is consistently good to very good, our placekicking is outstanding and coverage and return teams are neither making no allowing big plays. It would be hard to understate how much confidence I have in Chris Freeman at this point.

So we’re now 5-2, 1-1 against the ACC despite both games being on the road. Yes, we’re 2 OT losses from 7-0, but that is what it is and we’re certainly a better team today than we were back in September. Duke is a good football team, and has a great passing attack. While I never count out the home team winning a football game, that’s not a great recipe for us. If any of the other four games (at Rice and FAU and home to UAB and Air Force) were played next weekend, we’d be favored but none of those games look automatic at the moment based on how 3 of those teams played this weekend and going 4-0 through them would be a really good result. So while anything from 10-2 to 5-7 is still possible, I think 9-3, beating last year’s record, would be a really good result and 8-4 matching last year’s would be o.k. I’m still not sure what to think about our defense, but I’m damn sure that if we keep Fagnano, Bell and Edwards healthy (well, in Edwards case just keeping him on the field because playing hurt doesn’t seem to be an issue for him), we’re going to score points the rest of the way. On to Houston for bowl eligibility heading into a 3 game homestand.

Oh, and one more thing. In case it wasn’t clear, BC sucks. I’m only sorry I couldn’t get other UConn fans to join me in a “Drive home safely” chant when their fans started pouring out of the stadium after we went up 15.
 
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Biz, thanks for your write up once again. On your point about Fagnano, Bell and Edward’s. Checking the ESPN statistical leaders this morning, Fagnano is the #11 QB for ypg. Bell the #4 WR, and Edward’s, the #12 RB. We certainly appear able to run, pass, and catch the ball. Add in quality punting and kicking and we seem able to, and have been, scoring enough to keep us in, and more than likely win most games on our schedule. Let’s hope the yesterday’s second half defense shows up for all 4 quarters the rest of the way. 10-3 with a bowl win isn’t out of the question.
 
Nice job. But it is time to put the BCU kept us out of the ACC myth to bed. Clemson and Florida State were the culprits. BCU has exactly zero influence in the conference. The basketball schools would have liked us but the football schools didn’t. BCU is neither.
Clemson and FSU kept us out when Louisville was selected. The basketball schools still held sway when Pitt was taken over us.
 
Yup, agree that there is still plenty of work to do against the 4 G5's, especially after yesterday's results, not to mention Duke. Rice are gonna be a decent challenge next week. If anything, the Rice game now has added importance even more than just getting bowl eligible.
 
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+1 for Country Cow

Happy we didn't come out of the bye week flat.

Also a fan of the "Is there a firedrill?" chant.. and may have been secretly hoping to hear a Premier League style chant break out of
You took the wrong team!
You took the wrong team!
Hey ACC!
You took the wrong team!
 
I was at the game yesterday and I go to 1 or 2 BC games per year. The BC fans I was with wanted to tailgate and they didn't want to go into the game as they feared the outcome. 4 out of 5 Boston Globe sportswriters picked UConn to win so losing was not unexpected. One of the BC fans said before the game it would be a miracle if BC won and I said what has the world come to if BC needs a miracle to beat UConn?

I think what we are seeing this year is that, for the most part, the offense returned most of the players from last year with a couple of newbies. With an experienced QB, the offense is humming and this might be the best UConn offense that I can remember. On defense, it was almost a complete turnover and it showed at the beginning of the season, but they have gotten better. A LB has stepped up, Parham, as the season has progressed just like McDonald did last year.

BC's DB group has been decimated with transfers and injuries and UConn receivers were running wide open all game so UConn took advantage. Credit the game plan and Joe F for seeing all the wide open receivers.

BC's OL was hit by injuries and BC decided to bench their starting QB. At the start of the game, it looked like BC could run at ease against UConn's D, but they had difficulty maintaining the pocket and UConn had 7 sacks and 10 tackles for a loss. The run D improved in the 2nd half.

Overall, a very satisfying win!
 
can’t remember a single drop by the varied receiving corps and some of the schemes were so good that making the play was easy.
I remember one. Fagnano saw him coming and stood his ground and still delivered the ball.

Agree with you that it seems pointless to talk about Joe's limitations given all he can do. Don't want to jinx it, but it's incredibly impressive that he hasn't thrown an interception yet. He's been moving the team effectively and his newfound willingness to run, when needed has made him incredibly effective. Could not be happier with him, or for him.
 
Everyone on page one of the INT list has thrown zero INT'S this year.

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Clemson and FSU kept us out when Louisville was selected. The basketball schools still held sway when Pitt was taken over us.
Was there actually a chance we could have been selected over Pitt? I'm familiar with most of the narrative surrounding why we were left out (BC blocking us, FSU and Clemson wanting UofL over us) but had never actually heard we were in contention to go over Pitt. I always thought Pitt was one of the locks to join since they had really good basketball under Dixon and a solid football program at the time. I also thought it was Cuse and Pitt ESPN was talking to behind closed doors to facilitate the split after the Big East declined ESPN's media rights offer, so I guess maybe I assumed they were a lock for that reason?

It's an interesting wrinkle to the whole situation I had never heard before.
 
Was there actually a chance we could have been selected over Pitt? I'm familiar with most of the narrative surrounding why we were left out (BC blocking us, FSU and Clemson wanting UofL over us) but had never actually heard we were in contention to go over Pitt. I always thought Pitt was one of the locks to join since they had really good basketball under Dixon and a solid football program at the time. I also thought it was Cuse and Pitt ESPN was talking to behind closed doors to facilitate the split after the Big East declined ESPN's media rights offer, so I guess maybe I assumed they were a lock for that reason?
Reportedly the first choices from ESPN in the 2011 rights deal were UConn & Syracuse. Boston College, who was represented on the expansion committee allegedly balked and asked ESPN if there was any other combination that would've yielded the same deal, ESPN said Syracuse & Pitt. Pitt then tanked the Big East contract extension talks and left the league. BC's AD bragged about keeping UConn out because they "wanted to be the New England team."

Had UConn gotten in in 2011... Pitt probably gets the Louisville spot in 2014 (where UConn was rejected)
 
Reportedly the first choices from ESPN in the 2011 rights deal were UConn & Syracuse. Boston College, who was represented on the expansion committee allegedly balked and asked ESPN if there was any other combination that would've yielded the same deal, ESPN said Syracuse & Pitt. Pitt then tanked the Big East contract extension talks and left the league. BC's AD bragged about keeping UConn out because they "wanted to be the New England team."

Had UConn gotten in in 2011... Pitt probably gets the Louisville spot in 2014 (where UConn was rejected)
Thank you. Idk how I was unaware of this the whole time lol. Makes me dislike that league even more.
 
The ACC had it right, and almost in their grasp, with Syracuse and UConn. The Boston market and BC, was(and is) a mirage. It looks like something big, but isn't - with respect to college athletics that are not hockey. Never was. On the other hand, UConn and SU were (and are) big. The Catholics lied and sabotaged the Huskies and, in turn, provided the ACC with a lemon.
 
Nice job. But it is time to put the BCU kept us out of the ACC myth to bed. Clemson and Florida State were the culprits. BCU has exactly zero influence in the conference. The basketball schools would have liked us but the football schools didn’t. BCU is neither.
Exactly. BC voted against us and tobacco road would have liked us on the conference for basketball, but the football schools wanted a football school so they politicked us out of the invite
 
Reportedly the first choices from ESPN in the 2011 rights deal were UConn & Syracuse. Boston College, who was represented on the expansion committee allegedly balked and asked ESPN if there was any other combination that would've yielded the same deal, ESPN said Syracuse & Pitt. Pitt then tanked the Big East contract extension talks and left the league. BC's AD bragged about keeping UConn out because they "wanted to be the New England team."

Had UConn gotten in in 2011... Pitt probably gets the Louisville spot in 2014 (where UConn was rejected)
Blame Donna Sha La La La. Said that she’d never would play in Hartford.
 
Exactly. BC voted against us and tobacco road would have liked us on the conference for basketball, but the football schools wanted a football school so they politicked us out of the invite
Nope. That's when they took Louisville over us. BC did their best, and DeFilipo publicly admitted the same, when we were in with Syracuse. Shalala and DeFilipo worked to keep us out. BC was afraid of us then, and still is.

BC keeping us out is not a myth.
 
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So he is one of two people with 100+ passing attempts and no picks, and the only one with 200+ attempts and no picks?

Nice
He came close to losing that twice yesterday. He's trying to force it into tight spaces. I like it when he's a little more conservative. I loved that seam route to Honig, and would like to see that more often. He's a load for any DB.
 
Nope. That's when they took Louisville over us. BC did they best, and DeFilipo publicly admitted the same, when we were in with Syracuse. Shalala and DeFilipo worked to keep us out. BC was afraid of us then, and still is.

BC keeping us out is not a myth.

The irony of all this is that there is every probability that we end up in a conference with BC and Cuse at some point. When the P4 bifurcates it's going to be mostlly the BiG and SEC and a handful of the ACC and Big XII. The rest will not be able to compete with the funding required to compete at that level and that will drive some level of rational conference configuration. Who knows when it happens, but I think it has to happen eventually.

UCONN competes just fine against BC and Cuse on a level playing field.
 
The irony of all this is that there is every probability that we end up in a conference with BC and Cuse at some point. When the P4 bifurcates it's going to be mostlly the BiG and SEC and a handful of the ACC and Big XII. The rest will not be able to compete with the funding required to compete at that level and that will drive some level of rational conference configuration. Who knows when it happens, but I think it has to happen eventually.

UCONN competes just fine against BC and Cuse on a level playing field.
I think you meant to say on any playing field ...
 
I think you meant to say on any playing field ...

Your're right. DB has done an excellent job. I just don't know how long UCONN can continue to fund at a level to stay competitive without P4 revenue. Frankly, I'm not sure how sustainable any of this is including for most in the P4. To attract and retain the best talent is going to require deep pockets and for all practical purposes there is no cap right now on any of this.
 
Those two idiots didn't realize that adding UConn to that group would have raised all boats. Instead they are both on an island. The Island of Suck.

Totally agree with that. DeFelipo was completely over his head. He was certainly not a business person and appeared to be a really insecure guy. Major college athletics in the northeast needed UCONN to be successful. Hell, Syracuse and BC hated UCONN. What more do you need to fill stadiums and arenas and drive interest. Instead you have BC in the abyss across all major sports and Cuse only slightly better.
 
Your're right. DB has done an excellent job. I just don't know how long UCONN can continue to fund at a level to stay competitive without P4 revenue. Frankly, I'm not sure how sustainable any of this is including for most in the P4. To attract and retain the best talent is going to require deep pockets and for all practical purposes there is no cap right now on any of this.
Fast forward 10 years(?) from now. The P2 has been finished and the rest of the FB playing world is in another category similar to IAA. You choose who else makes the cut. Does the SEC or B10 demote anyone(Rutgers, MD)? Our schedule includes Syracuse, Pitt, BC, West Virginia, Wake Forest, Temple etc. BE2.0. Great conference, great competition, just no road to NCAA Championship. UConn better off in 2035(?) than they were in 1995. 40 years to finish a short journey. Same as it ever was.
 
Nope. That's when they took Louisville over us. BC did their best, and DeFilipo publicly admitted the same, when we were in with Syracuse. Shalala and DeFilipo worked to keep us out. BC was afraid of us then, and still is.

BC keeping us out is not a myth.
Anyone who thinks that BCU wields any power to do anything in the ACC is delusional. DeFilipo taking credit for keeping UConn out is like the roster taking credit for the sunrise.
 

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