The View From Section 241 — Army

[ZooCougar]

That would make sense…but UConn nor Fagnano has said this…so it seems silly for you to keep parroting this talking point as if it is fact.

It makes a bunch of sense. So it’s an educated hunch. So believe whatever you please. No sweat off my back.

Also it’s not great idea to advertise to the world that you have an injury.

 

[ZooCougar]

I don't know if I would go that far Chief, but something did happen among at least some of the players, where they felt they really were no longer a team and basically once the head coach was gone, they were done with the football program.

Wheile I could see some players feeling a bit betrayed, or having a gripe about abruptly losing their head coach, that should have been directed towards the departing coach, not the school or the program.

I can see pinning some of this on Mora as the message some of our players delivered was an every man for himself attitude, which cannot work in any team sport and absolutely cannot work in football.

Whether it was due to directly providing that message or by implication because the buck stops at the guy in charge, the culpability starts with Mora and continues through everyone who (at least mentally) checked out of the program when he announced his departure.

Mora is allowed to pursue whatever career opportunities he believes are in his best interests. Whether he did or did not do anything to lead the players who did opt out to believe they were immediately free agents once he announced his move is up to speculation. I also believe that Mora did us a favor, actually a couple of favors. First by digging us out the hole we were mired in when he was hired. Second, by moving on, as I believe we wouldn't have seen much beyond what we saw this past year under his leadership. By hiring Candle, we traded up and it shouldn't be too long before we see this on the playing field.

Chief’s take is beyond stupid. The kids who played were playing hard. They just got beat. Plain and simple.

 

[CL82]

For what it's worth, the whole Mora departure, player opt out saga has left me feeling disconnected from the team. The butt whooping at Fenway didn't matter because it really wasn't a butt whooping of the team that I followed all season. The departures now don't matter. The recruiting and commitments do matter, but at this point, I just don't care that much about them.

In a way, that's a good thing because the Candle era will start with a clean slate. Unburdened by the expectations of the two prior seasons. I'd love to see Cam back, but I'm not expecting it to happen. I'm also not expecting it not to happen. I just don't care.

For me at least, part of what makes college football enjoyable is the continuity and watching guys develop year to year, watching guys who played together become a unit. In this era of de facto free agency, where every year you've practically got a new team, it's just harder to care. Don't get me wrong, I'll be all in and watch Coach Candle build his team. If they are successful, I'm sure I'll get sucked in.

But here's the difference, if they aren't successful, well, at least as of today, I don't care very much. It used to be that are bad seasons made me miserable. I'd still watch the games, but they were actually unpleasant to sit there and power through. Again, as of today, I just don't care. Effectively the powers that be have gutted everything about college football that made it great and unique and have left us with a watered down semi pro league.

That's where I'm at right now. We'll see what happens as the team comes together.

 

[Alum86]

Also it’s not great idea to advertise to the world that you have an injury.

Good point. We probably will never know. Good luck to him in whichever of the 3 games he was invited.

 

[ZooCougar]

Good point. We probably will never know. Good luck to him in whichever of the 3 games he was invited.

It’s not about the game. It’s about getting a week of face time and practice in front of the front office of every single NFL team and probably the UFL too.

 

[Chief00]

I don't know if I would go that far Chief, but something did happen among at least some of the players, where they felt they really were no longer a team and basically once the head coach was gone, they were done with the football program.

Wheile I could see some players feeling a bit betrayed, or having a gripe about abruptly losing their head coach, that should have been directed towards the departing coach, not the school or the program.

I can see pinning some of this on Mora as the message some of our players delivered was an every man for himself attitude, which cannot work in any team sport and absolutely cannot work in football.

Whether it was due to directly providing that message or by implication because the buck stops at the guy in charge, the culpability starts with Mora and continues through everyone who (at least mentally) checked out of the program when he announced his departure.

Mora is allowed to pursue whatever career opportunities he believes are in his best interests. Whether he did or did not do anything to lead the players who did opt out to believe they were immediately free agents once he announced his move is up to speculation. I also believe that Mora did us a favor, actually a couple of favors. First by digging us out the hole we were mired in when he was hired. Second, by moving on, as I believe we wouldn't have seen much beyond what we saw this past year under his leadership. By hiring Candle, we traded up and it shouldn't be too long before we see this on the playing field.

The head of the snake was taken out and what was left wasn’t pretty. As you stated it is a team sport but that was not our outlook in Boston. Everyone had their own agenda. It was a mess.

 

[Chief00]

It’s not about the game. It’s about getting a week of face time and practice in front of the front office of every single NFL team and probably the UFL too.

I think he talent but don’t delude yourself. NFL teams like guys who show up even at less than 100%.

 

[Purple Stein]

For what it's worth, the whole Mora departure, player opt out saga has left me feeling disconnected from the team. The butt whooping at Fenway didn't matter because it really wasn't a butt whooping of the team that I followed all season. The departures now don't matter. The recruiting and commitments do matter, but at this point, I just don't care that much about them.

In a way, that's a good thing because the Candle era will start with a clean slate. Unburdened by the expectations of the two prior seasons. I'd love to see Cam back, but I'm not expecting it to happen. I'm also not expecting it not to happen. I just don't care.

For me at least, part of what makes college football enjoyable is the continuity and watching guys develop year to year, watching guys who played together become a unit. In this era of de facto free agency, where every year you've practically got a new team, it's just harder to care. Don't get me wrong, I'll be all in and watch Coach Candle build his team. If they are successful, I'm sure I'll get sucked in.

But here's the difference, if they aren't successful, well, at least as of today, I don't care very much. It used to be that are bad seasons made me miserable. I'd still watch the games, but they were actually unpleasant to sit there and power through. Again, as of today, I just don't care. Effectively the powers that be have gutted everything about college football that made it great and unique and have left us with a watered down semi pro league.

That's where I'm at right now. We'll see what happens as the team comes together.

We've gone from playing in a traditional fantasy baseball league to playing in a daily fantasy league.

The lack of continuity sucks. The chance to perpetually reinvent yourself is great if you know what you're doing. I think Candle does.

 

[AllHusky]

We’ll all be watching!