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Message: [QUOTE="msf22b, post: 2168252, member: 656"] I think the question becomes How does a team join the elite rank? The National Championship model/requirement is too steep a climb Especially as UConn has won a significant plurality of titles of late. I think we can all agree that coaching (and usually charisma) go hand in hand with recruiting, university support, and the building of a consistent fan base are probably the main pillars of a successful program and of course; winning. With some programs (I'm thinking of Tennessee) holding to elite or sub-elite status on with what can only be labeled as tradition. We're used to seeing teams led by McGraw, Tara, Pat (in the old days), Sylvia (not any more) Brenda and of course Geno, contend regularly. And now Dawn is on the list. It appears that a second wave is coming, led by Vic, perhaps Jody, even Quentin? (posters may supply their fav candidates for inclusion). And so a coordinated effort by a University, facilities, resources, good hiring, a marketing whiz, some good luck and a lot of patience (because nothing happens overnight) are the required ingredients for a major program... Amazing, how many fall short in one respect or another [/QUOTE]