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Message: [QUOTE="Yorkeez4, post: 3329638, member: 4434"] I know most will disagree but I think the turning point was winning the championship in 2014. From what I have read this seems to be when Ollie thought he no longer needed the support of his mentor, Calhoun, and the other very knowledgeable bb people around him. He wanted credit for the championship and felt too much was given to others. That attitude and possibly issues in his personal life derailed what looked at the time to be a promising future. would we trade the championship for future success? Maybe not. [/QUOTE]