The problem was PROVIDENCE.

[Palatine]

Just the fact the HQ was in Providence should have been a tip off for anyone with a brain. Our commissioners were all part of the Providence mafia, next office down

Even after the first split it was business as usual in Providence, next office down.

The league had outgrown Providence. But Providence still wielded the power and no one stood up. UConn certainly never stood up.

The good news is our ties to Providence have been severed. Now put on your big boy pants, get into the gym and make yourself strong.

 

[coachcap]

Just the fact the HQ was in Providence should have been a tip off for anyone with a brain. Our commissioners were all part of the Providence mafia, next office down

Even after the first split it was business as usual in Providence, next office down.

The league had outgrown Providence. But Providence still wielded the power and no one stood up. UConn certainly never stood up.

The good news is our ties to Providence have been severed. Now put on your big boy pants, get into the gym and make yourself strong.

So where on Madison Ave. should UConn et al open up for business?

 

[Nostical]

Speaking of Providence, I asked one of my buddies, whose a big PC fan, for his comments on the Big East and UConn situation. Here's what he wrote. He may not be alone with this rather harsh assessment.

"The blame should go to the " football " schools and the BE leadership for not pressing to establish exorbitant exit fees when Miami, Va.Tech, and BC left the BE. Everyone is chasing football dollars. UConn proved that they had no loyalty to the Big East just like the rest of the football schools, and they could care less about the non football schools. Well, you reap what you sow.

Your school's President is a moron. UConn was begging the ACC to take them. Then when they're rejected, Herbst is trying to lobby the league to let UConn play in the BE Tournament despite the APR issue in the interest of " Big East solidarity ". What an incredible hypocrite! It was funny to see Herbst and Manuel begging the basketball schools to stay. The Catholic schools said screw you and rightfully so.

The ACC will probably invite UConn and Cincy into the ACC when they feel like it, or when Florida State and the other big football schools in the ACC decide to leave for the SEC or the Big 12. ACC football is nothing special, and since they had a major hand in destroying the Big East I hope that conference too goes down the toilet.

Ed Cooley is building a powerhouse program at PC. I'm sure UConn was shocked that recruits Kris Dunn, Ricky Ledo, and Brandon Austin chose PC over UConn as well as other major programs. Times have changed and the new basketball conference will be great. I hope they go coast to coast with east and west divisions.

Good luck to UConn. Hopefully they won't end up in the MAC playing football against UMass, Kent State etc."

 

[ZooCougar]

Your friend is an idiot.

The basketball schools became a bunch parasites who added no value. We allowed them to be like that.

 

[noeynox]

The basketball onlies, always loyal till the money was no longer worth it. Fugg em all. One basketball school kept the Big East name relevant on the national level. UConn, the one that won THREE national championships the last 13 years. Fugg em all.

 

[Dann]

The basketball onlies, always loyal till the money was no longer worth it. Fugg em all. One basketball school kept the Big East name relevant on the national level. UConn, the one that won THREE national championships the last 13 years. Fugg em all.

how did marq and depaul end up in this league? not that it matters, but if for any second those bball schools bitch about anything its a joke.

when we make it out of this, i want us to give them the cold shoulder. from bball to field hockey if we scheldue them its helping them not us. they need uconn, we dont need them for 2 seconds. i want to make the treatment bc gave us look like childs play compared to what we do. wvu and uconn were all the big east was, the 2 of us held it up. wvu has yet to even say goodbye to those schools. i hope we follow wvu's footsteps.

 

[WestHartHusk]

Speaking of Providence, I asked one of my buddies, whose a big PC fan, for his comments on the Big East and UConn situation. Here's what he wrote. He may not be alone with this rather harsh assessment.

"The blame should go to the " football " schools and the BE leadership for not pressing to establish exorbitant exit fees when Miami, Va.Tech, and BC left the BE. Everyone is chasing football dollars. UConn proved that they had no loyalty to the Big East just like the rest of the football schools, and they could care less about the non football schools. Well, you reap what you sow.

Your school's President is a moron. UConn was begging the ACC to take them. Then when they're rejected, Herbst is trying to lobby the league to let UConn play in the BE Tournament despite the APR issue in the interest of " Big East solidarity ". What an incredible hypocrite! It was funny to see Herbst and Manuel begging the basketball schools to stay. The Catholic schools said screw you and rightfully so.

The ACC will probably invite UConn and Cincy into the ACC when they feel like it, or when Florida State and the other big football schools in the ACC decide to leave for the SEC or the Big 12. ACC football is nothing special, and since they had a major hand in destroying the Big East I hope that conference too goes down the toilet.

Ed Cooley is building a powerhouse program at PC. I'm sure UConn was shocked that recruits Kris Dunn, Ricky Ledo, and Brandon Austin chose PC over UConn as well as other major programs. Times have changed and the new basketball conference will be great. I hope they go coast to coast with east and west divisions.

Good luck to UConn. Hopefully they won't end up in the MAC playing football against UMass, Kent State etc."

I hope you are currently short one friend because the fact that a PC fan could write that is incredible. I'm so tired of these useless, hanger-on, bullshit programs thumping their chests. Powerhouse! How about making an NCAA tournament?

 

[uconnbill]

The football schools should have broken away from the basketball schools a few years ago. They bring little as the best basketball has been played in the football side for awhile now.

Providence will be a middling basketball team in any conference their in.

 

[husky91]

Umm, PC and "powerhouse" don't belong in the same sentence. As for Herbst, tend to agree at this moment.

Speaking of Providence, I asked one of my buddies, whose a big PC fan, for his comments on the Big East and UConn situation. Here's what he wrote.

Your school's President is a moron. UConn was begging the ACC to take them. Then when they're rejected, Herbst is trying to lobby the league to let UConn play in the BE Tournament despite the APR issue in the interest of " Big East solidarity ". What an incredible hypocrite! It was funny to see Herbst and Manuel begging the basketball schools to stay. The Catholic schools said screw you and rightfully so.


Ed Cooley is building a powerhouse program at PC. I'm sure UConn was shocked that recruits Kris Dunn, Ricky Ledo, and Brandon Austin chose PC over UConn as well as other major programs. Times have changed and the new basketball conference will be great. I hope they go coast to coast with east and west divisions.

Good luck to UConn. Hopefully they won't end up in the MAC playing football against UMass, Kent State etc."

 

[FfldCntyFan]

The only benefit of exorbitant exit fees (as the PC fan suggested) is that it gives the parasites (as Zoo Cougar accurately labeled our buddies at PC) another chunk of cash to nibble on. I am still stunned at the absolute lack of pride and self respect of a fan base that believes they are eternally entitled to a share of money earned by other schools (through success) solely because the guy who came up with the idea of putting the schools together that started the BE was a PC employee at that time.

The problem (evident from ~ 1990, obvious a decade later but in reality existing from day one) had always been (to use a biblical reference) that man cannot serve two masters. There was always a faction within the conference who needed to promote and advance their football programs and a faction whose best interests were to prevent the promotion of football.

Personally I'm still convinced that the catholic schools are not yet willing to walk away. Those with some character and backbone (G'Town, Nova, Marquette) realize that they cannot carry a conference, not a conference at the level of what the BE recently had been. They also know that the parasites will take them down further without schools like Louisville (already gone) and UConn (eventually gone) to help provide buoyancy. Schools like PC, St John's & Seton Hall aren't going to walk away from their share of the not yet paid NCAA credits that the football membership earned over the past few years (accord to most reports from nearly a decade ago, if one faction decided to walk away, which became an option after 2010, the football faction would retain the credits the football members earned, the catholic members would retain the credits they earned).

In response to Nostical's PC buddy: Yes, I realize that Cooley is going to set the world on fire and before long the Celtics and possibly the Nets and/or Knicks will be the only basketball teams north of DC and east of the Mississippi that can beat PC. Yes, we did hear the same story with Keno and his 'KREW' but just because just because PC fans may have been a bit over exuberant a few years ago should not take away from the sensational hire that was Cooley.

 

[Vuce]

Speaking of Providence, I asked one of my buddies, whose a big PC fan, for his comments on the Big East and UConn situation. Here's what he wrote. He may not be alone with this rather harsh assessment.

"The blame should go to the " football " schools and the BE leadership for not pressing to establish exorbitant exit fees when Miami, Va.Tech, and BC left the BE. Everyone is chasing football dollars. UConn proved that they had no loyalty to the Big East just like the rest of the football schools, and they could care less about the non football schools. Well, you reap what you sow.

Your school's President is a moron. UConn was begging the ACC to take them. Then when they're rejected, Herbst is trying to lobby the league to let UConn play in the BE Tournament despite the APR issue in the interest of " Big East solidarity ". What an incredible hypocrite! It was funny to see Herbst and Manuel begging the basketball schools to stay. The Catholic schools said screw you and rightfully so.

The ACC will probably invite UConn and Cincy into the ACC when they feel like it, or when Florida State and the other big football schools in the ACC decide to leave for the SEC or the Big 12. ACC football is nothing special, and since they had a major hand in destroying the Big East I hope that conference too goes down the toilet.

Ed Cooley is building a powerhouse program at PC. I'm sure UConn was shocked that recruits Kris Dunn, Ricky Ledo, and Brandon Austin chose PC over UConn as well as other major programs. Times have changed and the new basketball conference will be great. I hope they go coast to coast with east and west divisions.

Good luck to UConn. Hopefully they won't end up in the MAC playing football against UMass, Kent State etc."

Your friend truly is an idiot. the ACC imposed "exorbitant fees" (50 mil) and that will not keep those teams from leaving. He really doesn't get it. There will be the so called BCS conferences eventually and there will be everyone else. Yes, some basketball programs will thrive but who is to say that they wont be marginalized if the 4 or 5 mega conferences just break away from the NCAA. That really could happen. Then very few people will care about the basketball only schools. They wont be on TV and they wont make any money. Lew Perkins saw this and said this years ago.....and it is happening. You should save his email somewhere and bring it up in 5 years once the landscape has changed even more than it has to this point.

 

[Nostical]

Your friend truly is an idiot......You should save his email somewhere and bring it up in 5 years once the landscape has changed even more than it has to this point.

Ha! It's already been archived.

 

[Bootsthemonkey]

Correct me if I'm wrong but you cannot just impose high exit fees, the presidents must vote on it. Without the votes it doesn't happen.

The biggest mistake the football schools made was allowing the league to continue intact. The basketball schools should have been kicked to the curb, or the football schools breaking away however you want to see it, long ago. Do you honestly think if Syracuse, Rutgers, Louisville, WVU and Pitt were still in that anyone would honest care if the C7 left? They'd probably jump for joy. For too long the health of the league depended on sound football decisions and the basketball schools ensured that hoops taking priority over football would kill the league. You can't explain Marquette, DePaul, Memphis or the tolerance of Notre Dame otherwise.